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Why does all this conversation make me want to write a nice Spyro fanfiction? o3o

It kinda does the same for me. O_O

1. It was a more fun, more magical experience.
   
2. LoS focuses more on Malefor.
   
3. Loads of the Original Characters, like the Professor and Bianca, were removed.
   
4. The Portals that lead to other worlds - it removed the other worlds and protals.
   

Then why is your username Cynder13 instead of Spyro13?

As much as Spyro has changed throughout the years, I still like playing BOTH the Old Spyro and the New Spyro. Some fans, old Spyro fans, criticize the new Spyro because of his "looks", the little mistakes made in DotD, and the "dark and serious" atmosphere of the trilogy.

I always wondered, instead of whining and complaining about the changes in our favorite game series that usual happen in every other game franchise, why not just say they're BOTH Spyro series in their own universes and move on?

And there are many reasons why Cynder in DotD is unfavored. Mainly because of the fantards drooling over her DotD design and bothers other fans about how "sexy" she looks. And her attitude suddenly changed in DotD, making her from remorseful to sudden change of spunk.

Closet sexist themes

This is, stupid! I’m not even female I find this to be so sexist. This makes me wonder how girls can like TLOS!? It gives females no or very little justice. Oh in case you haven’t figured it out by now, this little section is about Cynder or the Mary Sue of DOTD.

Cynder is the only female dragon in this entire universe… how!? How is that possible? This immediately and has proven to itself, makes the notion that Cynder and Gary are to be a couple… what!? Now I’m sure TLOS fans will bring up The Lion King, which mind you yes it was a good movie, but I did find that part to be… freaky. Now back on track here, how is it possible that there is only one female dragon in this universe? And how sexist is that that all the Guardians are Males… what? Oh come on, if you’re going to have Guardians one or two of them should be female. Nope, they’re all male, and they are the only dragons next to, Malefore, the Chronicler, and some NPC dragons which make no appearance in the first two games, that are here. My point is that, Cynder from the start, of this trilogy was nothing more than Gary’s squeeze toy.

As an example: When Gary first fought her, and she pretty much open up a can of butt whopping on him, Gary says that there is something familiar about her. Later when he actually defeats her; she converts to her true self… ugh! That’s just one thing that I realized… here’s another. Not only is Cynder the only female dragon in this world but she’s evil as well. Oh yeah, taking something out of the book of Genesis are we? Come on, I’ve heard that one before… don’t get me wrong I’m not saying that female characters don’t make a good villain (Kerrigan, Vertigo, The Sorceress, Maleficent, etc) but when she’s the only female in the entire world you just got to stop and think that this is so wrong. Gary who is male is beating up some female and then she later submits to this all male society… what!? NO! NO! NO! That is so------------------ wrong!

Activision didn’t even give Cynder another female character to bond with, or share female things with. This is so sexist, if not just stupid. She’s has no one to share about female things with, no one… and don’t give me this crap that the elders will provide information for her, or the Chronicler would do that. NO! In fact that’s disturbing if they did know, they don’t have estrogen pumping throughout their entire body on a daily basis, they wouldn’t know what that feels like, and frankly I don’t even want know … scary!

And it doesn’t stop there… oh boy. When Cynder is starting to leave the Temple, Gary tries to stop her, or tries to reason with her. Gary gives no indication of being concerned for what Cynder is feeling. All he says is that he doesn’t want her to leave. What? Oh yeah smooth move, why don’t you, I don’t know, say why she’s uncomfortable here, or say that she’s free to do as she wants. Personally if I was her friend I would say my two cents and let her choose what to do. If she’s feels that it’s best for her to leave, then I would suggest tagging along with her because I’m concerned for her here. This shows that despite what happened, someone actually cares for her, and is willing to support her (and yes me being a guy I can see how a female can take this the other way). I wouldn’t say that I don’t want her to go and provide no reason why.

It gets much worst in DOTD. In the start the game, Cynder decides to let Spyro lead, I ask, why? Cynder you lead an army that literally took over the four islands. Why are you submitting to Gary? Sure he defeated you, yeah big whoop-dee-do, and you submit to it what he says so easily. That drives me nuts! Why is she forced to be Gary’s side kick!? Now do you understand why I call her Mary in this game? But it doesn’t stop there; when the Golem comes after Gary and Mary for the last time in the first level, the Golem grabs Mary… *sigh* it be better if the Golem grabbed Gary! Yeah! That would’ve of been badass! Also just to show how inconsiderate Gary is towards Mary, when they are escaping, Hunter, Sparx, and Gary just jet out there leaving Mary behind to deal with Golem trying to grab her again! What the heck!? Honestly! Chivalry is DEAD in this game.

Oh, oh there’s more! Before the dam level, Mary gives out plan to Gary; Gary likes the idea, but its Gary, who explains this plan to the rest of the group… why!? Honestly why!? Why didn’t Gary just encourage Mary to say this to the rest of the group!? It gets worse from here.

When Gary and Mary defeat the Destroyer, it’s Gary who gets the praise. Towards the end of the game it’s Gary who has the most concern for not Mary, what the heck!? They completely ignored her presences in these parts. Man if I were Mary I’d be PO’ed right now! Oh but there’s so---- much more!

Before this, and mind you this is what really ticked off, when Gary and Mary met the hermit in Avalar, the hermit goes off putting down Mary that she will concede and be the dark master puppet again. Pretty much saying that since she’s a girl she has no power (I know that’s not what he really meant, or did he?). Gary makes a very weak attempt to protect her during this, and Mary doesn’t do much good for herself either. This is suggesting that Mary is too weak willed or doesn’t love herself enough to really stand up for herself, just what must female characters do in a male targeted series… *rolls eyes*. And lastly, this is what just makes literally throw my game controller across the room.

When Mary concedes to Malefore’s powers, Mary asks Gary why he isn’t fighting back. Gary says that Malefore has left nothing left for him to fight for. STOP! Ok, if this is a fight of who gets to mate with the female, then honestly Gary, you’re a wuss! But guess what Mary somehow breaks out of Malefore’s powers and goes to Gary’s side…. Why!? Gary wouldn’t fight you to save you from Malefore; he just sat there and gave up! What feelings does she have for him? How can she have feelings for him? I don’t know any woman who would fall in love with Gary… Just ugh!

That’s all the reasons why I dislike TLOS, well no not really, I could have added more but I think 6 pages worth of ranting is good enough. Also again, I’m not saying my opinion has to be law, I’m not saying I’m right; this is all what I FEEL. Don’t bother trying to convince me otherwise; honestly I don’t need a helping hand with that department.

I never said Spyro was emo. I think he's mopey and bland, not emo. Aura, why did you think that by calling Spyro emo ppl were reffering to his capacity to care? I don't think they were coz it is perfectly possible to care and still have a warrior's attitude. Correct me if I'm wrong, but an emo is a sad, maybe over emotional person (a brief definition, but I think I get the gist), it does not mean caring person, as far as I know.

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I never said Spyro was emo. I think he's mopey and bland, not emo. Aura, why did you think that by calling Spyro emo ppl were reffering to his capacity to care? I don't think they were coz it is perfectly possible to care and still have a warrior's attitude. Correct me if I'm wrong, but an emo is a sad, maybe over emotional person (a brief definition, but I think I get the gist), it does not mean caring person, as far as I know.

No, I didn't mean you, SpyroLUVA. I mean that some fans, old Spyro fans, don't like the caring attitude of the new Spyro and call him emo, since they prefer the spunky personality of the old fans.

Yeah, but the Old Spyro didn't lose his will to fight when his only companion had been turned against him before the final battle. It's usually the Cynder fantards and some old Spyro fans who call Spyro emo, only because of the way he lost his will to fight Malefor after Cynder turned evil.

Spyro probably knew that he would be fighting a losing battle if he took both Malefor and Dark Cynder head-on, and didn't want to fight. The way he said "Because you left me nothing to fight more.." to Cynder, could be mean that since he lost his father-figure and temporarily his closest friend, Spyro probably went to the conclusion that everyone he knows and loves were going to die, leaving him the only one to fight Malefor.