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the only question is when they said this like a year ago, i can imagine it being like 5 years later and there like "dont worry a games still underway"

Well I can't wait for the next Spyro game to come out.

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And where exactly did you hear this info of a "yin-yang dragon"?

Its a fan series made by a user on youtube with the whole 'Ying-Yang Dragon' thing...

Knew it!

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the only question is when they said this like a year ago, i can imagine it being like 5 years later and there like "dont worry a games still underway"

It was this year. All indications were that a game last year would not have been possible.

If a 4th TLOS game is announced I will punch someone in the balls.

*points to activisions ceo* make sure its him lol

I dont really care which univerese its in, as long as its good

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I dont really care which univerese its in, as long as its good

Agree long as its good i'm happy not a high chance of it happening though.

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I dont really care which univerese its in, as long as its good

Agree long as its good i'm happy not a high chance of it happening though.

Totally, i dont really care either. But i'm a little bored of TLOS, and now i'd like to see on of the Original's be released on newer computers, but i dubt that will happen :/

-huggles Originals-

"Number Four" will be likely be in the same universe as TLOS...

I don't have much to say, I'm mostly indifferent towards a new Spyro game now...they really could've been better on DToD...

/shrug

I just want at least a few other originals to be released, i havnt played them for like.....years, i dont know how i survived D:

I actually miss the originals, i'm craving to play them again...

Yeah...God I miss the classics...If they do release a new classic Spyro game and actually do it well I may break down and cry from joy! I may even do that If I never see old Spyro in a new game again! LOL, I should film my reaction if they make a good classic Style game!

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Yeah...God I miss the classics...If they do release a new classic Spyro game and actually do it well I may break down and cry from joy! I may even do that If I never see old Spyro in a new game again! LOL, I should film my reaction if they make a good classic Style game!

Totally I did used to have all the Classics except the 1st, never played that ( i know, shoot me D: ) But i think i left them behind when i moved house which is such a shame =( Spyro 2 was my 1st ever Spyro game, so that has to be my fave. I'm just hoping to get my playstation fixed again then i can rebuy them, w00t!

I'm hoping they continue with Original style Spyro, it'l be nice to see one of the games on current computers, that way i'm able to play it 8D I'm kinda getting bored with TLOS, i've played it to much. :/

DotD just ruined the whole trilogy. It;s a shame, I used to like LOS and it had some potential prior to DotD, and if it had a name other than Spyro, they might have been my favorite games.

DOTD wasnt good, but it wasnt bad either, in my opinion. But there are lots of things i can point out which were bad about it....
The characters looked ugly, especially Cynder. She looked better in her ANB and TEN form. Spyro acted like a total wimp, but yet in ANB and TEN he showed emotions, like when he was running he had a determined and ticked look on his face. They totally ruined Sparx, he was ugly and wasnt even funny. Man i can go on forever, a few of the good things were the elements and the music was nicely done. In my opinion TEN was the best out of TLOS...
But classic Spyro rules all

If they do continue off of the LOS storyline they better not turn it into another generic beat em up game with a spyro theme to it ...

You mean like the button mashing of the LOS trilogy? I agree.

If the next Spyro game has free-flying (Which is very likely) I hope it's not as limited as it was in DotD

I want to see them get rid of the whole "I love you" crap. They would have to get rid of it completely or the kick-butt Spyro, who we all know and love from the first games, would suddenly be a lovestruck moony gary stu, OR, mary sue Cynder would run away and turn to the darkside because Spyro doesn't love her. It was a stupid fan insert that needs to be removed.....immediately.

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I want to see them get rid of the whole "I love you" crap. They would have to get rid of it completely or the kick-butt Spyro, who we all know and love from the first games, would suddenly be a lovestruck moony gary stu, OR, mary sue Cynder would run away and turn to the darkside because Spyro doesn't love her. It was a stupid fan insert that needs to be removed.....immediately.

The 'love' between them IS possible, but the manner in which it was introduced will lead to problems.

^ Lol one of the main reasons I want the next Spyro game to be in a different universe!

It would of been better if, Cynder tried saying 'i love you' through out the game, but got inturupted by something/someone. THEN, have her say it when she.

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It would of been better if, Cynder tried saying 'i love you' through out the game, but got inturupted by something/someone. THEN, have her say it when she.

I agree with you, the love thing came out randomly and too fast....

The whole thing was too forced! I agree whole-heartedly with Dark_Spyro999; the love thing is another RELLY good reason as to why they should return to old Spyro or go in a new direction. That and old Spyro made WAY more money and was WAY more popular, in terms of units sold, per game.

Oh! Speaking of the love being removed, I found a really awesome image by ShaloneSK of deviant art! I'll post a link in a minute.

EDIT: Here it is!
http://shalonesk.deviantart.com/art/I-You-144905832
LOL! It's just sooo...perfect!!! *sigh* If only that would happen!

DOTD had its good and bad points, It was nice to be able to switch between the two chars and fly, but exploration was limited, enemies were redundant, and it was very short. I liked the grappling fighting style(Kicking in the air reminds me of a cat )
Sparx was terrible, he had two semi humorous lines, the rest felt like he was trying to be funny and not succeeding.

If the next Spyro game had a looser flying ablility, larger areas, and a larger variety of enemies it might be pretty good.

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The whole thing was too forced! I agree whole-heartedly with Dark_Spyro999; the love thing is another RELLY good reason as to why they should return to old Spyro or go in a new direction. That and old Spyro made WAY more money and was WAY more popular, in terms of units sold, per game.

But if they suddenly go to the old Spyro, then the next game will probably be like A Hero's Tail. And if they do another reboot, then there will angry fans almost everywhere flaming Activision because they're to blame for those actions.

If they do continue the game in the LoS universe, then we know what universe they'll probably stick with for the remainder of the franchise. And from the looks of the fanbase of those who like both Old and New Spyro, the next game will most possibly be set in the LoS universe.

You know what? I'm sick of all this 'there can only be one Spyro' and 'they have to switch back', or 'they have to stick with LOS'. Have any of you seen The Legend of Zelda? Nintendo is supporting TWO separate timelines, one being realistic for the 'kewl kidz', and the other being artistic for other people. Granted, that may not have been their intention, but I feel it's working. What I'm getting at is, why can't Original Spyro and LOS co-exist. Why does one have to dropped forever?

//rant.

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You know what? I'm sick of all this 'there can only be one Spyro' and 'they have to switch back', or 'they have to stick with LOS'. Have any of you seen The Legend of Zelda? Nintendo is supporting TWO separate timelines, one being realistic for the 'kewl kidz', and the other being artistic for other people. Granted, that may not have been their intention, but I feel it's working. What I'm getting at is, why can't Original Spyro and LOS co-exist. Why does one have to dropped forever?

//rant.

Its not the fact that they can't do that, its just they won't because Activision couldn't care less... Plus, when both Sierra and Universal Studios tryed to make an original game they failed... So what makes you think Activision would do any better? If Insomniac was still making Spyro then that would be the case, but if Activision switched back to the originals then it would fail...

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You know what? I'm sick of all this 'there can only be one Spyro' and 'they have to switch back', or 'they have to stick with LOS'. Have any of you seen The Legend of Zelda? Nintendo is supporting TWO separate timelines, one being realistic for the 'kewl kidz', and the other being artistic for other people. Granted, that may not have been their intention, but I feel it's working. What I'm getting at is, why can't Original Spyro and LOS co-exist. Why does one have to dropped forever?

//rant.

Its not the fact that they can't do that, its just they won't because Activision couldn't care less... Plus, when both Sierra and Universal Studios tryed to make an original game they failed... So what makes you think Activision would do any better? If Insomniac was still making Spyro then that would be the case, but if Activision switched back to the originals then it would fail...

So what you're saying is they absolutely HAVE to stick with only one?

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You know what? I'm sick of all this 'there can only be one Spyro' and 'they have to switch back', or 'they have to stick with LOS'. Have any of you seen The Legend of Zelda? Nintendo is supporting TWO separate timelines, one being realistic for the 'kewl kidz', and the other being artistic for other people. Granted, that may not have been their intention, but I feel it's working. What I'm getting at is, why can't Original Spyro and LOS co-exist. Why does one have to dropped forever?

//rant.

Its not the fact that they can't do that, its just they won't because Activision couldn't care less... Plus, when both Sierra and Universal Studios tryed to make an original game they failed... So what makes you think Activision would do any better? If Insomniac was still making Spyro then that would be the case, but if Activision switched back to the originals then it would fail...

So what you're saying is they absolutely HAVE to stick with only one?

No, I'm saying they won't because they know themselfs that they won't be able to make a decent original game... They should focus on trying to make TLoS better... In other words, I think they should only continue the original games if Insomniac make it...

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Its not the fact that they can't do that, its just they won't because Activision couldn't care less... Plus, when both Sierra and Universal Studios tryed to make an original game they failed... So what makes you think Activision would do any better? If Insomniac was still making Spyro then that would be the case, but if Activision switched back to the originals then it would fail...

So what you're saying is they absolutely HAVE to stick with only one?

No, I'm saying they won't because they know themselfs that they won't be able to make a decent original game... They should focus on trying to make TLoS better... In other words, I think they should only continue the original games if Insomniac make it...

Okay then. ( thinks of the LOS haters)

I'd prefer it if they went back to Insomniac for the originals, if they ever continue with them that is.

TLOS was fine, but they could have done better with DOTD.

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So what you're saying is they absolutely HAVE to stick with only one?

No, I'm saying they won't because they know themselfs that they won't be able to make a decent original game... They should focus on trying to make TLoS better... In other words, I think they should only continue the original games if Insomniac make it...

Okay then. ( thinks of the LOS haters)

I would hate it if Activision tryed to continue with the originals... And I know Insomiac never will so, its not gonna happen... Which is annoying, but we'll have to get used to it...

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No, I'm saying they won't because they know themselfs that they won't be able to make a decent original game... They should focus on trying to make TLoS better... In other words, I think they should only continue the original games if Insomniac make it...

Okay then. ( thinks of the LOS haters)

I would hate it if Activision tryed to continue with the originals... And I know Insomiac never will so, its not gonna happen... Which is annoying, but we'll have to get used to it...

I remember reading in the Wikipedia ( so it may be questionable) that Insomiac stopped making Spyro because the character 'was too limited in they could give him'. Heck I even read that this guy said, 'Spyro didn't even have hands, so he couldn't even hold a gun'.

SINCE WHEN DOES A DRAGON NEED A GUN?!

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Okay then. ( thinks of the LOS haters)

I would hate it if Activision tryed to continue with the originals... And I know Insomiac never will so, its not gonna happen... Which is annoying, but we'll have to get used to it...

I remember reading in the Wikipedia ( so it may be questionable) that Insomiac stopped making Spyro because the character 'was too limited in they could give him'. Heck I even read that this guy said, 'Spyro didn't even have hands, so he couldn't even hold a gun'.

SINCE WHEN DOES A DRAGON NEED A GUN?!

They wanted to make a series of games with guns in, so Ratchet and Clank was born...

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I would hate it if Activision tryed to continue with the originals... And I know Insomiac never will so, its not gonna happen... Which is annoying, but we'll have to get used to it...

I remember reading in the Wikipedia ( so it may be questionable) that Insomiac stopped making Spyro because the character 'was too limited in they could give him'. Heck I even read that this guy said, 'Spyro didn't even have hands, so he couldn't even hold a gun'.

SINCE WHEN DOES A DRAGON NEED A GUN?!

They wanted to make a series of games with guns in, so Ratchet and Clank was born...

Yeah, and a lot of their games have guns in some way, shape, or form....

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I remember reading in the Wikipedia ( so it may be questionable) that Insomiac stopped making Spyro because the character 'was too limited in they could give him'. Heck I even read that this guy said, 'Spyro didn't even have hands, so he couldn't even hold a gun'.

SINCE WHEN DOES A DRAGON NEED A GUN?!

They wanted to make a series of games with guns in, so Ratchet and Clank was born...

Yeah, and a lot of their games have guns in some way, shape, or form....

Yeah, I think they saw that shooter games we're selling the most so they wanted to make they're own which they couldn't do with Spyro... But Ratchet and Clank will turn into a FPS one day if thats the case...

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They wanted to make a series of games with guns in, so Ratchet and Clank was born...

Yeah, and a lot of their games have guns in some way, shape, or form....

Yeah, I think they saw that shooter games we're selling the most so they wanted to make they're own which they couldn't do with Spyro... But Ratchet and Clank will turn into a FPS one day if thats the case...

I have nothing against shooters, but do we seriously need so many?

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Yeah, and a lot of their games have guns in some way, shape, or form....

Yeah, I think they saw that shooter games we're selling the most so they wanted to make they're own which they couldn't do with Spyro... But Ratchet and Clank will turn into a FPS one day if thats the case...

I have nothing against shooters, but do we seriously need so many?

All the developers care about is what sells well, if that was platformers back in the 90's then everyone would make platformers and if thats shooters now then everyone will make shooters...

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Yeah, I think they saw that shooter games we're selling the most so they wanted to make they're own which they couldn't do with Spyro... But Ratchet and Clank will turn into a FPS one day if thats the case...

I have nothing against shooters, but do we seriously need so many?

All the developers care about is what sells well, if that was platformers back in the 90's then everyone would make platformers and if thats shooters now then everyone will make shooters...

Sigh... Watch, the next fad will be ultraviolent brawlers. I guarantee it...

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I have nothing against shooters, but do we seriously need so many?

All the developers care about is what sells well, if that was platformers back in the 90's then everyone would make platformers and if thats shooters now then everyone will make shooters...

Sigh... Watch, the next fad will be ultraviolent brawlers. I guarantee it...

Next Activision will be paying hundreds to Nintendo to get Spyro characters featured in the next Super Smash Bros...

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All the developers care about is what sells well, if that was platformers back in the 90's then everyone would make platformers and if thats shooters now then everyone will make shooters...

Sigh... Watch, the next fad will be ultraviolent brawlers. I guarantee it...

Next Activision will be paying hundreds to Nintendo to get Spyro characters featured in the next Super Smash Bros...

Yep.....

AHT was pretty good in my opinion, better if they hadn't made Spyro seem like an idiot/drunk, and if the voice actors actually seemed to care.

LOS needs MANY improvements; It had promise till DotD.

I think that if they really tried to do a classic Style game, maybe even consulted InsOmniac, then it might be descent.

LOS seems to be over, and there are so many plotholes and downfalls and arguements about LOS and the entire franchise that another reboot seems like an alright idea. They don't necessarily have to recreate Spyro's back story, but if they reintroduced old Characters, and revamped exsisting ones and combined aspects from both old and new with new aspects it might be good. Yes, ppl would flame, but honestly what does Activision care if a bunch of kids get angry with them? They probably wont notice, and if they do it will only be a little, and as I said they wont care. Know why? Spyro is not a huge money maker as far as most popular games go, certainly not when compared to Activision's bestsellers! After all, it's no Guitar Hero. See, all huge companies like Activision care mostly about thier money. It's all about profit and income. They don't care what happens to Spyro, or what existing fans think or do as long as people do like it and it sells. Idealy, they would listen to the fans and try to meet the needs and desires of as wide a range of fans as possible, but they're just gonna do to the next game what they think will make the most money.

If I had my way, this is what would be in the next game:

flight
separate levels and portals
speedways
melee combat which is not too drawn out or arduous; 3-5 hits for each non boss/elite enemy, fewer massive hoards of enemies.
swimming, above and under water
a wide range of landscapes; open feilds, caves, mountains, flying cities, sunken ruins, underwater levels, futuristic planets, large cities, etc.
multiple breath abilities which must be earned and learned
collectables and unlockables
mini games and side quests
other playable characters which don't emulate Spyro like Cynder did in DotD.
collectable gems used as currency at a store or to gain passage into a new area


Characters
a spunkier, upbeat, determined, more outspoken, Spyro!
Cynder with personality! No sarcasm or confusion, with a little regret but hope!
a funnier more useful Sparx!
a less serious Hunter with a sense of humour!
the electric-tounged Volteer with his HUGE vocabulary and mile-a-minute talking!
the snooty, nose-in-the-air ice guardian Cyril!
and the whole gang from the good ol days! Bently, Sheila, Agent9, Elora, Bianca, Sgt.Byrd, the Professor, Money Bags EVERYONE!

There, I think that sums it up.

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It would of been better if, Cynder tried saying 'i love you' through out the game, but got inturupted by something/someone. THEN, have her say it when she.

I agree with you, the love thing came out randomly and too fast....

I think it would of been better, but i understand why they did that, think of this; when the world is about to end, and you were with a guy, what else are you going to say, you want someone to love befor you die, and srly what else would you say, it would take to long to say: I relly like, i want to be with you, Because the world will end like in less then a min. So they made her say 'i love you'. And alot of people would say that, if they were about to die, and even, if you were to die in 6 mounths, you would still say 'i love you' because you want to have a love befor, you die. So over all it would of been better if she tried to say it through out the game but, they didn't so, i just live with it and enjoy what was good about the game.

Yeah that bit makes sense but I think the love thing, all of it was WAY too forced and soon!

They haven't been through enough together to be in love nor do they know enough of eachother to really be in love.

Think of this:in ANB, they were enemies. Prior, Cynder destroyed the dragon kingdoms and forced Spyro to live in exile and confusion. (yes I know it wasn't her fault, but that's not the point.) During ANB, Spyro doesn't know she's been corrupted till just before the end, and he spend his time foiling her plans, following her to her lair with the intention of killing her before he learns the truth. Cynder tries to kill him many times through her minions. Spyro saves her and they return home and share thier anxiety about the future. Saving Cynder from evil could not have been out of lov at that point, since Spyro had only just caught sight of Cynder's true form for the very first time and Cynder has only just been granted her own mind.

TEN: Cynder is well again, and feeling guilty. Spyro forgives her but this doesn't help her so she runs. The majority of the game is spent chasing CYnder to try and save her again. This may seem like a gesture of love, but could also be one of friendship, and it would also seem like the right thing to do if you knew someone who had spent thier whole life being corrupted was about to run off into dangerous lands during dangerous times, whether yuo loved them or not. The two only meet for a few minutes in the arena where they try to break free. Cynder is kidnapped again and Spyro races after her, maybe for love or the same reasons stated above. He learns more of her past and what is predicted to happen to her and this encourages him to save her. Again, this could be for love or just because it would be immorral to let someone be torchered like that. It could also be because Cynder was a force of nature and Malefor would be that much harder to stop with evil Cynder on his side.
Spyro and Cynder meet again, try to break free again, and Cynder is knocked unconcious. Spyro defeats Gaul with his evil side which Cynder saves him from. This could be out of love, but couls also be due to gratitude or morrals. Then Spyro saves her and Sparx with a magic crystal. Again, this could be love or morrals. True any of these things could have been done for more than onme reason, love being one of them. Still, I don't think it is real love, since it is so soon in the story and they still know nothing that is not obvious about eachother. Also, Cynder was so guilty and mixed up, there is no way she would be ready for a relationship.

DotD:Spyro and Cynder are together again, but all they do is fight in silence, share a few meaningless lines and converse with allies and aquaintences. Then they reach the end and Cynder comes face to face with her confusion (continued from TEN; a good reason why she is not ready for a relationship) and is turned evil. Spyro is alarmed at this, possibly for love, but also out of fear of her, fear for her (morrals again), or fear of the damage evil Cynder could cause, endangering the others. Then as Cynder bears down on him Spyro doesn't fight (I hate that but that's how it is) and changes her back with a soppy display of affection (I really REALLY hate that, but again, that's how it was). Then Cynder promises to stay with him for the fight (you hear her before the battle begins). Tis could be out of love, but also gratitude, responssibility or comradery, not to mention the fact that the tether was replaced when Cynder became good again. Then at the end Cynder stays with him, for love, comradery, etc, then she says I love you.

Now, unfortunately there is no denying tht this relationship is cannon, and it can't be changed for the forseeable future (hard as we may try). However, it is obvious, after having read the above points there is little to no character developement or truely justifiable reason why they would be in love. Saving a person's life does not warrant true love, though I think it was the bond Ignitus spoke of. They haven't sopoken enough to learn much about eachother, and I don't really think Cynder knows herself, given the fact that she wasn't herself for most of her life and that she was thrust into battle almost immediately. True she may have grown during TEN while she was away, but if so, we should have seen it happen and see Spyro learn about her for love to be at all justified. The biggest thing is that Spyro is the first male dragon of Cynder's age that she's ever seen, or at least that she's seen since becoming small again, and Cynder is the only female Spyro has ever seen. Now assuming they are the ONLY male and female dragons of the same age that exsist (which I ust can't believe till it's confirmed by a game) then aalthough the love is still rushed and forced it could be said that is is thier responsibility to mate and repopulate the dragon race. However, such a thing would open doors to all kinds of crappy fanservice that it would be a REALLY bad idea! Not to mention it puts a terrible and unecessary burden on Spyro and Cynder. If LOS and SxC is to be continued, Spyro and Cynder must develop much much more and learn virtually everything about eachother for me to accept the relationship. However, such thorough development for the sake of a love relationship would consume much of the story and the fact is a romance beat-em-up game just doesn't seem half as entertaining as an adventure platforming game.

Whew! That was a lot, but I think everything I wanted to say.

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DOTD had its good and bad points, It was nice to be able to switch between the two chars and fly, but exploration was limited, enemies were redundant, and it was very short. I liked the grappling fighting style(Kicking in the air reminds me of a cat )
Sparx was terrible, he had two semi humorous lines, the rest felt like he was trying to be funny and not succeeding.

If the next Spyro game had a looser flying ablility, larger areas, and a larger variety of enemies it might be pretty good.

Ugh, exactly. He's lines are so dumb, and so out of place and lots of inappropriate timing.