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Lord_of_Sheeps Gold Sparx Gems: 2352
#51 Posted: 03:58:22 23/10/2009
Quote:
Um. Was that offensive to me, or LUVA?


You, obviously.
Spyrofanart Green Sparx Gems: 258
#52 Posted: 04:00:23 23/10/2009
Both

Old Spyro
DUH, I like him! He was an awsome dragon, though I would say the abblitys are alittle, well, yah know, not my type.
But all in all, it deserves just as much as new spyro.


New Spyro
I love the new upgrades, notice he acctuallt looks like a dragon(not to be mean, we didnt have that technology back then).
AND Spyro is obbediant, im like him: without LIFE DIRRECTIONS im lost.


BOTH ROCK(AND SPYRO IS SPYRO OLD AND NEW)?.
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Spyrofanart Green Sparx Gems: 258
#53 Posted: 04:02:00 23/10/2009
Quote: Lord_of_Sheeps
Quote:
Um. Was that offensive to me, or LUVA?


You, obviously.


Oh, oh well. I understand why.
But that person GETS UNDER MY SKIN WITH ANNOYANCE.
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Lord_of_Sheeps Gold Sparx Gems: 2352
#54 Posted: 04:12:44 23/10/2009
Then you calmly and politely PM her and state your reasons why, otherwise you're going to be seen in a bad light as well.

I'm sorry if I sound a little strict and uptight, but I don't want to bear witness to a flame war on the forums here.
Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#55 Posted: 05:43:07 23/10/2009
Quote:
!OBJECTION RAZZ!
The old spyro can't swim in all the games


Which is at least two more games than new Spyro can swim in, so my point still stands. The only reason he couldn't swim in the first game was because they had creepy noxious goo in the Dragon Worlds instead of water. Where there is actual water, old Spyro can swim, whereas new Spyro just drowns (or flies away from it because he knows he'll drown).

And Sheeps makes a good point. It's fine that you like both Spyros (I was once in that boat myself) but SpyroLUVA is not telling you its wrong. She's just stating her opinions on the matter. It would be best for you if you either ignored her, responded politely instead of yelling, or PMing her and trying to work out your differences.

Remember, kids: Someone disagreeing with you/not sharing your opinion about a thing on the Internet does not invalidate your opinions or liking of said thing.
Tango Gold Sparx Gems: 2076
#56 Posted: 14:56:40 23/10/2009
Quote: Razz
The old enemies didn't have health meters, but remember that it only takes between one and three hits to kill LoS Spyro. And if an enemy knocks him into water, he'll drown (old Spyro can at least swim).


There WASN'T any water in ANB and TEN (Just weird goo stuff like the in STD) and in DOTD he flys away, old spyro push him in water. New spyro flys out, or away. He can somehow do things like that.

Oh and remember, new spyro can fly.
Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#57 Posted: 15:45:22 23/10/2009
It was much more heavily implied that much of that goo was just fouled water in ANB and TEN.

So can old Spyro (though, granted, it was only in certain levels), and his flight mechanics worked better than DotD's, but I digress.
Tango Gold Sparx Gems: 2076
#58 Posted: 15:51:24 23/10/2009
Digress?

Did that purple stuff LOOK like water? Thatw asn't fouled water that was...actually I'm not sure but it looked more goo like than in STD.
NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#59 Posted: 16:19:45 23/10/2009
Quote: Spyrofanart
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
Original! Look at the above pic! Look at his face! That's the face of a fighter! A WINNER! New Spyro looks like a noble sort of knight in that pic. Nothing wrong with that, but knights tend to be goody-two-shoes, and goody-two-shoes don't like to fight unless it's totally necessary. As far as New Spyro is concerned, saving the world is a good reason to fight, and old Spyro would agree, but New Spyro doesn't seem like he would fight one on his side. Remember how he didn't fight Cynder when she was evil? She was controlled, but still good inside (regrettably) and he didn't fight because of that. Old Spyro on the other hand id like a vigilantae(sp?), and vigilantaes fight if they see any reason which seems good at the time. Fight to save lives, fight to catch a thief, fight to put someone (good or not) in thier place, fight when challenged or threatened, to proove themselves, etc. As Cynder_543 says, he would never back down from a challenge.
I agree with you, Crashfan25, the Legends would be some of my favorite games if they weren't Spyro games.


Man! Can't you respect opions?
I like BOTH =euqaly. GOTTA PROBLEM WITH THAT?!
LUVA, srsly, you can walk all cocky around the fans and ----, but you can't say A THING to me about fandom.



YES, actually, I can. I don't care if you like both, that's your perogative! I was stating MY opinion, NOT bashing yours! WTF triggered that spaz attack, anyway? I don't see anything there which even remotely sounded like I was attacking LOS fans OR fans who like both! Why not point it out to me, instead of just blowing up in my face about it?
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#60 Posted: 16:25:25 23/10/2009
It misted like water, sounded like water, and moved like water and not like any other substance, and since it was flowing through a forest that clearly was getting no other source of viscous nourishment, I assumed it was water, however fouled. I believe Spyro makes a splash noise when he falls in, too.

The only certain water we ever saw in ANB/TEN was either ankle-deep or frozen, but given Spyro's other weaknesses in the games and his skittish response to water in DotD, it can be safely assumed that he can't swim, whereas Insomniac Spyro can not only swim, he can breath and use his super flame underwater.
NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#61 Posted: 16:26:33 23/10/2009
Quote: Spyrofanart
Quote: Lord_of_Sheeps
Quote:
Um. Was that offensive to me, or LUVA?


You, obviously.


Oh, oh well. I understand why.
But that person GETS UNDER MY SKIN WITH ANNOYANCE.


Why?! Because I openly and proudly state my opinions without fear of being flamed or regards to ppl who misinterpret what I say or who can't tolerate opinions? Those last two were directed at YOU Spyrofanart.
It shouldn't matter if I state opinion like fact becaue what I say, not how I say it makes it obviously an opinion. Anyway, it's tedious to say "this is just my opinion, don't flame me" on all my posts.
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Tango Gold Sparx Gems: 2076
#62 Posted: 17:55:20 23/10/2009
Which he needs a power up, which willonly be there if their in his world. Plus, as I said, old Spyro pushes him in wayer, new spyro flys out. He can defy gravity somehow in DOTD...
Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#63 Posted: 19:11:05 23/10/2009
Because he has wings, maybe? Call it a hunch. *sarcasm subroutine test completed*

All Insomniac Spyro has to do is push LoS Spyro into water and dunk him and the battle's over. If Insomniac Spyro falls in, he can not only swim but attack from the water (don't forget the underwater charge). And let us not forget all of the other advantages he has over LoS Spyro besides being able to swim.
NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#64 Posted: 20:56:39 23/10/2009
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
It could go either way. Both are very popular, hard to say which is more. Yes, Legend has more powers, but Spyro has the attitude and stratiegic power to win against him. Here's how I think the fight might go:

(boss battle style)
New Spyro:
You are forced to stay at a distance hovering above the ground and launch ranged magic at old Spyro. T
he battle field is riddled with barriers for Spyro (old) to hide behind.
You must hit him when he reappears.
Hit old Spyro until he is stunned and the go up and spam attack him.
Retreat quickly before he rises or he will supercharge/superflame you.
Repeat untill health is drained.
You are protected by a magic shield.
You fall when Old Spyro destroys your sheild, as it delivers a shock to your MP, draining it for awhile. You regenerate MP when you are able to stand again.

Old Spyro:
Run around and hide behind barriers while New Spyro attacks.
You must move from barrier to barrier, picking up missiles which you spit at New Spyro, to make him drop his shield.
As the battle progresses, Flying saucers appear on the battle field which you use to fly over New Spyro's head. This delivers more damage than missiles but only lasts for 40 seconds. You can fire as many times as possible in that time frame.
Once the shild is dropped, you must use Dragon-Kata on him.
Retreat before he rises, or he will spit magic at you.
Repeat Until health is drained.

Note:
Old Spyro may not have many natural powers, but he can use projectiles and vehicles like flying saucers and tanks.
Spyro must use Dragon-Kata from Spyro: Shadow Legacy to make hand to hand combat fair.

New Spyro has many natural abilities, but limited magic power. That is where Old Spyro gets an advantage.

Both have heath meters which are exactly the same size. No three hits and you die, no gems or butterflies to regenerate health.

The battlefeiuld is a combination of the old and new worlds. It has butterflies vehicles and maybe power ups for old Spyro and maybe purple gems for new Spyro.

That is why I think it could go either way.



Notice the edit in the above quote; the battle feild is a combination of both worlds.
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Tango Gold Sparx Gems: 2076
#65 Posted: 21:48:49 23/10/2009
What about charactors from their worlds? Would old spyro or new spyro be able to get friends to help?

And Razz, I think your forgetting TEN, Spyro fell in the sea and stayed put there enough for him to drown, I don't think Sparx was that happy about getting his wings wet. New Spyro is legendary, he can also breath underwater.

And he defy's gravity because he can fall a long way and snap his wings open and they don't break. That's what I meant..
Spyrofanart Green Sparx Gems: 258
#66 Posted: 21:59:06 23/10/2009
OK, I'm just gunna stop commenting now.
Cause if I don't it could get dirty,
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NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#67 Posted: 23:12:14 23/10/2009
@ Tango, no, no help.

A Spyrofanart, no, keep posting. We're in the middle of something it seems, let's finish it.
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Ice Fire Gold Sparx Gems: 2790
#68 Posted: 23:24:32 23/10/2009
Well i think legend because he has got WAY stronger powers so he will bascly defeat himself
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xx chloebabez Yellow Sparx Gems: 1087
#69 Posted: 23:25:38 23/10/2009
I cant choose between the 2 xD
I like Original Spyro for his bada** attitude, but i TLOS Spyro for his elements and abilities.
I would rather if they kept Original Spyro, but still had TLOS universe if you know what i mean smilie Just my opinion though smilie
HIR Diamond Sparx Gems: 9034
#70 Posted: 01:45:41 24/10/2009
Quote: Razz
Seriously? Then what on earth are you still doing on a Spyro board, HIR? o.o Unless your preferred one of the Spyros not listed here (EtD, AHT, console, etc).


Well, frankly, I didn't like either of the personalities of the two Spyros that much. I just liked the gameplay. If we're trying to be realistic here, then I'd actually say original Spyro seeing as Legend Spyro has limited magical abilities. <.<;
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Bolt Hunter Gems: 6158
#71 Posted: 10:33:46 24/10/2009 | Topic Creator
Legend of Spyro is not a softy!
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#72 Posted: 15:18:23 24/10/2009
No, LoS Spyro was immediately lifted out of the water by a sea turtle. He wasn't under for long. Though, frankly, I don't understand how he survived the impact. At the height he fell from, hitting water is like hitting cement. Like many things, the LoS creators know nothing about physics.

Ice Fire, we've kind of knocked the "more powers" thing out of the water. LoS Spyro has more powers, sure, but they are extremely limited and once he runs out of magic, he doesn't have them anymore.

Heh heh, Insomniac Spyro would tear the LoS universe apart. smilie

Ah. That makes sense, HIR. And I've been using the gameplay as my basic argument point that Insomniac Spyro would win. smilie Personality wise, there's a bit to be desired in both of them (though I find old Spyro charming in a jerk sort of way). This is why most people like his sidekicks and NPC friends a bit more, at least that I've seen.

He so is. Poor little guy lets everyone beat him up (unless its an ape, so this might also make him a racist smilie).

And Insomniac Spyro has a lot more friends than LoS Spyro, so if friends stepped in to fight, it really would be unfair. It would be LoS Spyro with Cynder (who also has his limitations on power but is a better strategist and fighter), a Cheetah (Hunter), a few moles, and some elderly Guardians who show increasingly less interest in fighting with each game vs. Insomniac Spyro, all of the dragons from the Dragon Realms, Elora (organizer and possibly fighter), Hunter (archer, racer and athlete), Bianca (sorceress), Sgt. Byrd (rocket launchers), Sheila (strong kicks), Agent 9 (monkey with a screw loose and a laser gun), most of the citizens of Avalar, and most of the citizens of the Forgotten Realms. I'd say it's not looking good for LoS. Cynder might be able to take out a few, but the LoS team would ultimately be overwhelmed by numbers.
Tango Gold Sparx Gems: 2076
#73 Posted: 15:35:05 24/10/2009
^ We said NO friends, I was just asking.
Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#74 Posted: 15:43:05 24/10/2009
And I was just answering. Calm down.
shadowfire Green Sparx Gems: 480
#75 Posted: 16:10:23 24/10/2009
I would have to say new spyro. He is more honorable (if that makes any sense). Old spyro seemed to just want to kill his enemies, new spyro would actually like talk to them and stuff (and he saves cynder in anb)...
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#76 Posted: 16:37:05 24/10/2009
Really? He seemed to be more of a "Oh, you're not a dragon. Time to die" fellow (unless they were Atlawa or Manweersmalls, two races he was told about in advance). And "honorable" fighters always loose in a street brawl. By the time LoS Spyro had said "hello", he would have been head-bashed by Insomniac Spyro. smilie

Granted, some of this is true of Insomniac Spyro (sans the racism; he at least kissed fairies and fauns and fought alongside a monkey smilie). But it was pretty clear who was bad in Insomniac Spyro's world (Gnorc's and Rynocs). But he did get himself involved in a war between two distinct races and fought for both sides (Zephyr and Breeze Harbor) and may have brought peace between them. He's more of a self-interested fighter. He likes to fight things but tries to do so with a good reason behind it and he does question those reasons. LoS Spyro not only doesn't like to fight, he doesn't fight for any good reason. If someone tells him to do it, he will, whether he wants to or agrees with the reasons (which he never bothers to question).
Bolt Hunter Gems: 6158
#77 Posted: 20:26:35 24/10/2009 | Topic Creator
The only thing that is good for Original Spyro is fast running...
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NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#78 Posted: 21:25:25 24/10/2009
Once again Razz makes MANY MANY good points, all of which I agree with!
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Bolt Hunter Gems: 6158
#79 Posted: 00:05:02 25/10/2009 | Topic Creator
Razz always makes good points...
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#80 Posted: 00:07:13 25/10/2009
Razz has too much spare time. Or, in actuality, Razz has AD/HD and gets bored playing games so she picks up on the little things while playing and tells insanely complicated substories and picks up on undercurrents in games that the writers didn't even notice (or couldn't expand upon). Logicing game mechanics so that they work with a game's story is fun, and in the case of LoS, it's the only thing that makes the gameplay tolerable. Oh no she didn't... smilie
HIR Diamond Sparx Gems: 9034
#81 Posted: 00:12:41 25/10/2009
I think Razz referred to Cynder as a he in post #72. >.>
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Zithdaitoh Diamond Sparx Gems: 9686
#82 Posted: 00:12:48 25/10/2009
Quote: Razz
Razz has too much spare time. Or, in actuality, Razz has AD/HD and gets bored playing games so she picks up on the little things while playing and tells insanely complicated substories and picks up on undercurrents in games that the writers didn't even notice (or couldn't expand upon). Logicing game mechanics so that they work with a game's story is fun, and in the case of LoS, it's the only thing that makes the gameplay tolerable. Oh no she didn't... smilie


So, you tend to notice a game's faults?
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#83 Posted: 00:20:23 25/10/2009
That's what we in the information age call a "type-o", HIR. smilie

Story wise, yes. And if the gameplay is average/poor, I notice that, too. I'm a nit picker and I write my own stories. I figure that if someone as obtuse as I am can call the shots in your game two games before you make it, you're being way too obvious. smilie
Zithdaitoh Diamond Sparx Gems: 9686
#84 Posted: 00:23:13 25/10/2009
Well, I suppose unexpected plot twists are good to have...
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"You think you have authority over me? How foolish."
*looks at Platinum Sparx status* I feel old.
Bolt Hunter Gems: 6158
#85 Posted: 00:26:23 25/10/2009 | Topic Creator
Maybe...
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Back on topic, who will win?
Old or New?
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Razz Platinum Sparx Gems: 6124
#86 Posted: 01:11:51 25/10/2009
I've said it a dozen times already and given a mountain load of reasons, but new Spyro has no chance against old. Insomniac Spyro will wipe the floor with him.
cynder 9999 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1285
#87 Posted: 18:19:30 27/10/2009
the legend spyro would win cus the original spyro has weak powers!
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zeroslash Green Sparx Gems: 128
#88 Posted: 04:05:56 05/11/2009
Power-wise, the new Spyro. Gameplay-wise, the old Spyro.
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NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#89 Posted: 02:25:24 06/11/2009
Old Spyro has attitude, enough to win any fight.
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iSO Emerald Sparx Gems: 3143
#90 Posted: 05:31:42 06/11/2009
Pretty much no opinion or even neutral. As I stated, I haven't played the Legend of Spyro series yet. I might wait for the next game I guess, just to see the comparison for myself.
Ghakimx Emerald Sparx Gems: 4064
#91 Posted: 05:52:58 06/11/2009
Go play LoS already.
cynder 9999 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1285
#92 Posted: 17:12:46 06/11/2009
Quote: Ghakimx
Go play LoS already.

yeah play tlos!!
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SwiftWing Green Sparx Gems: 390
#93 Posted: 20:35:41 18/03/2010
LEGEND!!!!! smilie *hugs spyro until gets burned or eaten alive*
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Kimbia28 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1890
#94 Posted: 22:35:25 18/03/2010
Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA
Once again Razz makes MANY MANY good points, all of which I agree with!


Haha I've actually carefully read the whole 2 pages(wow like thats a lot xPbut some of the posts were pretty big xD) of this topic and I just wanna say that I agree with everything Razz and NEW_SpyroLUVA pointed out xD
DarkCynder_543 Platinum Sparx Gems: 5210
#95 Posted: 05:48:55 19/03/2010
Oh, and one more thing. Look at Legend Spyro's horns, then look at Original Spyro's horns. If the two would ram into each other and do some head bash or something, Legend Spyro would get really hurt, possibly even get his head 'cracked open'. I mean, Legend Spyro's horns go right back, so when he charges, he hits enemys with his head/scales. Original Spyro's horns go up, so when he bashes into someone, his horns actually HIT the enemy, so I'm sure it will do much more damage.
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NEW_SpyroLUVA Emerald Sparx Gems: 3308
#96 Posted: 18:32:30 19/03/2010
^ That's the result of poor design, as is much about the look of new Spyro especially in AnB and TEN. (He looks like he has tumour or deformities:/)
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Gwenio Gold Sparx Gems: 2454
#97 Posted: 01:37:13 20/03/2010
LoS, as the old Spyro dies if he takes any damage at all. (Sparx does not count, as we are just comparing Spyros).

Old Spyro defeating enemies in one hit:
This does not show how strong he is, but rather how weak everything is in his world. It is clear that everything that does not have either a health bar (which LoS Spyro does) or some form of protection (Sparx), then they die/are defeated on the first hit that deals damage. It is likely the enemies that take multiple hits (StD bosses and the hounds in Toasty) have some protection that is not obvious to the player.

Technology:
Yes old Spyro uses more tech, but keep in mind that in some boss fights if the boss gets to something before you, then they can use it. This would likely be the case in a battle with LoS Spyro, because most of the tech old Spyro uses is simple to use or apparently mind controlled.

Old Spyros Attacks:
Are weak. At least they would be in the world of LoS, because in the old games Spyro could not hurt enemies that had health bars with his natural abilities. Thus he would have to use other things while LoS Spyro can go straight for the kill.

Water:
The only stuff that LoS Spyro gets hurt by is no more water than the goo in StD, so his abilities regarding water are an unknown.

Combat Ability (Physical):
- Horns: Yes old Spyro's horns are better shaped to gore an oppenent, but some horns (mountain goats and LoS Spyro) are to protect the head when ramming something.
- As stated above, old Spyro's only physical attack is useless against enemies with health bars, so LoS Spyro will beat the stuffing out of him if they get close.

Combat Ability (Skill)
Both versions rely heavily on avoiding attacks when fighting stronger enemies, so it is likely they are equal in this. Because LoS can hurt old Spyro all the time, he would be able to get in enough damage first.
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DarkCynder_543 Platinum Sparx Gems: 5210
#98 Posted: 01:38:10 20/03/2010
^ His eyes are to big too. :\

EDIT: This was supposed to come in after NEW_SpyroLUVA's post.
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Gwenio Gold Sparx Gems: 2454
#99 Posted: 01:51:05 20/03/2010
Quote: DarkCynder_543
^ His eyes are to big too. smilie

EDIT: This was supposed to come in after NEW_SpyroLUVA's post.



Spyro has big eyes in every game, some just have heavier eyebrows.
DarkCynder_543 Platinum Sparx Gems: 5210
#100 Posted: 02:03:43 20/03/2010
LOS's eyes stand out more though.
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