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i knew about the toy box starter, just don't remember reading anything about a standalone avengers playset.


edit: found something, really took some creative wording to get away from the regular starter pack hahaha

http://infinityinquirer.com/20...w-up-on-amazon/

Beat me to it. I found it through an article through a British retailer. That works though. Either way. Confirmation. So no need to worry about the game itself, if they just want the 21 Superhero figures for collectibles.

with me i am a marvel fan i am not getting disney infinity 2.0 but i am getting all the figures same with amiibo but i am getting trap team all the way

Stop comparing DI and Skylanders....

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Stop comparing DI and Skylanders....

Because people cant have health comparison conversations? If it doesnt come down to a stupid flame war, who cares? Its clearly a comparison thread with the title. If you dont like it, dont come into the thread. If you feel its against some board rule, report it. Let the mods decide.

i only wish they had released the 'guardians of the galaxy' as a stand alone game without figures and all that... just released it as a normal platformer game, then i would have bought it. it was the most interesting part of the di game this year.

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Stop comparing DI and Skylanders....

Because people cant have health comparison conversations? If it doesnt come down to a stupid flame war, who cares? Its clearly a comparison thread with the title. If you dont like it, dont come into the thread. If you feel its against some board rule, report it. Let the mods decide.

The main thing about a flame war is that it's NOT healthy. It's a waste of forum space. It's all about who gets internet points for 'winning' the argument. And it'll never get deleted even if it becomes a total mess because that mess only is against the rules with harassment.
It's kind of a decent person's job to not make it end up like that. The discussion is still being civil, but if you're coming here with this attitude, it's not gonna last long.

why do some of you get upset?... when you have no interest in discussing skylanders vs di in the first place. if people want to have a discussion and it end in a flame, let the mods handle it. there is no point in everyone sticking their nose in and giving their 2 cents. if you dont like it then it is best to just ignore it.

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Stop comparing DI and Skylanders....

Because people cant have health comparison conversations? If it doesnt come down to a stupid flame war, who cares? Its clearly a comparison thread with the title. If you dont like it, dont come into the thread. If you feel its against some board rule, report it. Let the mods decide.

The main thing about a flame war is that it's NOT healthy. It's a waste of forum space. It's all about who gets internet points for 'winning' the argument. And it'll never get deleted even if it becomes a total mess because that mess only is against the rules with harassment.
It's kind of a decent person's job to not make it end up like that. The discussion is still being civil, but if you're coming here with this attitude, it's not gonna last long.

Uh...I never said a flame war was healthy. I said if they didnt like the idea of comparison to stay out of the thread rather than come into the thing and start complaining. Report it otherwise, as whining posts dont get anywhere. What attitude do I have?

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i only wish they had released the 'guardians of the galaxy' as a stand alone game without figures and all that... just released it as a normal platformer game, then i would have bought it. it was the most interesting part of the di game this year.

awww, but the figures are part of the appeal and the fun of it, for both franchises.
But i suppose i have a slightly skewed view on them, as i'm more of a "figure collector" than i am a video game player. Pop! Vinyls being my other obsession. i'm just glad they added all the characters that they did, mainly for the Avengers, a fair few figure collections leave out 1 or two of the main characters from the movies, way too often Hawkeye is forgotten, so i'm pleased to be able to get a full team of Avengers assembled in figure form, even if Nick Fury is technically from the spiderman set.

That attitude of like it or leave it. The mods hardly ever handle flame wars, so you can't just bet on that. Again, civil discussion is nice, but if someone doesn't want it no need to argue or it's going to start one even unintentionally.

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i only wish they had released the 'guardians of the galaxy' as a stand alone game without figures and all that... just released it as a normal platformer game, then i would have bought it. it was the most interesting part of the di game this year.

awww, but the figures are part of the appeal and the fun of it, for both franchises.
But i suppose i have a slightly skewed view on them, as i'm more of a "figure collector" than i am a video game player. Pop! Vinyls being my other obsession. i'm just glad they added all the characters that they did, mainly for the Avengers, a fair few figure collections leave out 1 or two of the main characters from the movies, way too often Hawkeye is forgotten, so i'm pleased to be able to get a full team of Avengers assembled in figure form, even if Nick Fury is technically from the spiderman set.

i understand the "figure collector" part of it, its fun and all. but im a game player first, i like to play a game where i dont have to constantly keep on buying. also another thing the 'guardians of the galaxy' for di is not a full stand along game. its just a part of the di2.0 package.

the last disney stand alone platformer games i bought was toy story and disney universe. and as great di2.0 may be the sad part is, we might never see any stand along platformer game from the disney movies again. because everything will be included in the di universe.

If mods dont do anything, thats kinda the only way to approach things on a forum and avoid flames. Deal with it or walk away. Seriously though, do you read half my posts? Did ya not see the gif with it? Even when I'm growling at people I'm laughing in the middle of it.

Doesn't change anything if you use gifs or what. If mods don't take care of things that's more reason to stay with healthy and nice discussion before someone deliberately derails it (no one currently on this thread, I mean some other users). Walking away just means it's going to stay quiet instead of civil.

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That attitude of like it or leave it. The mods hardly ever handle flame wars, so you can't just bet on that. Again, civil discussion is nice, but if someone doesn't want it no need to argue or it's going to start one even unintentionally.

Do not cross the streams!

Your theory that any comparison thread is going to turn into a flame war isn't proving to be true. Besides, people that are going to throw flames are going to figure out a way to do it no matter what the topic. The mods have shown that they are willing to close and delete threads that they see fit. Besides, we have a number of quality posters here who will help set the tone for appropriate etiquette.

The whole idea that the group can't do something because of a few bad apples is rather insulting to me. For example, my boy (all the boys really) aren't allowed to play touch football during recess at school anymore because one kid keeps tackling other kids. Either punish the one kid who can't follow the rules, or let all the other kids teach him how to behave.

Would be all for it, but the bad apple takes a century to get riptoed if at all no matter how rude and inflammatory he can be. But guess you're right, if there's no way to prevent it can't waste time on that.

Too bad I know nearly nothing abot DI other than the crossover gameplay and the horrid demo at the bookstore that I tried to play, so this discussion ain't for me :U

wait wait wiat...are ya'll fighting...ABOUT fighting?

Marinate on it. Haha

Anyways, as to the topic, I'm honestly torn. I'm going to be 100% honest. Both DI and SF bored me at times. Both had their moments, but (DI) Toy Box felt useless to me, making things required entirely too much work, between randomly unlocking stuff, and then trying to actually get things setup like you might like and SF's level design made it feel like a chore at times...both of those elements made replay pretty LOW for me.

Apparently, both games have worked on this - the Toy Box now has better 'objectives' in the designs, making the game element better, and has autobuilding features to expedite the whole process as you want. With TT, they have shortened the levels and added Kaos mode, something that really piques my interest as a retired hardcore gamer who likes a 'fair' challenge (i.e. getting hit to make a jump is not fun - Ninja Gaiden) and has oodles of noodles of figures (at least one of everything). DI had a real crummy level up system - and they added a skill tree to that. Instead of 'milking' variants, they use power disc for costume changes (Grey hulk though? I want RED HULK, IM40 suit? Give me the subspace suit or War Machine) - and they make the power disc useful this go around, something that skylanders is horrible with. Short of the healing elixir in the first ocuple of games and the diamond in SF, all the other items are just a waste of space.

I mean to put an image with it. The last go around, DI felt like a half cooked game with potential, SF felt like a fully cooked game with flaws. SF was funner and had more playability 'for me'. I'd say SF>>DI. With the corrections in DI and their willingness to have online and to patch - I have it at LEAST TT=DI. I think only time wil ltell if one truly is better than the other.
- Unreall

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I figured the ToyBox Starter Pack was pretty common knowledge at this point. You can preorder it from a lot of major retailers already for a 11/4 release date.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/3906...8875912&veh=sem

Given there is a Toybox Starter pack, Avengers is set to get its own separate playset, if you ended up getting the other Starter pack first. I'll see if I can track down one of the articles. I'm currently at work, so I cant look through my old links if I was at home.

Although a little off topic, will the game mode discs be avaliable outside of the disney starter pack? if not, that is a knock down for disney infinty (buying a whole 'nother toybox game just for discs).

The reviews coming out for 2.0 are mixed at best. It still seems like the Play Sets are flat and dull. Pretty much every review I read said the same thing about Play Set quests being repetitive and predictable: run over here, find this, attack that.

I have 2.0 preordered and I'm not going to bail out on it, but it does look as if Trap Team will be spared annihilation. I'm purposely being dramatic there

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Although a little off topic, will the game mode discs be avaliable outside of the disney starter pack? if not, that is a knock down for disney infinty (buying a whole 'nother toybox game just for discs).

Honestly not sure about that one. Its a good question. I havent been all that worried about the discs so I havent been paying attention. Given they are doing their best to let people come into the game this time around from either side of the fence, and they are releasing the Avengers Playset by itself, I'd like to think they might release packs of some sort for the discs that are tied to the Starters. Probably not something on release, but maybe the second or third wave.

Hey guys! When either DI or STT come out, reviews can be posted here and a "which has better gameplay" after both games finally come out.

Title is changed and is ready for reviews.

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Although a little off topic, will the game mode discs be avaliable outside of the disney starter pack? if not, that is a knock down for disney infinty (buying a whole 'nother toybox game just for discs).

Yes they will be don't know if the will be straight away though.They are also doing an avengers playset on its own.

IGN tore DI2.0 apart. They make good points. All of the playsets do feel the same and are dull.

DI2.0 always feels so limited in my eyes. They barely release any good Disney figures, and now with Marvel, only five new Disney figures are coming. If they don't keep up both brands with each new game, it was a waste to even use the Marvel liscense. I imagine the next game will feature Star Wars, and then the 4th game will what, ditch them possibly?

I don't see Infinity having long legs honestly, and especially after the second game is getting more mixed reviews compared to the first. However, the brand brought it upon itself. At least Skylanders does something new each game. Each game only feels the same in terms of levels. However, Feats of Strength and Brocks Arena in Giants, Score/Time Attack, Swap Zones, Survival/Bonus Missions in Swap Force, and Trapping in Trap Team, at least offers variety in each game.

DI has still has plenty of room for improvement. 1. They should have imported the 1.0 playsets 2. When you have an open world there should be a full map not just a mini map and collectibles need better tracking either some ability to locate them and/or marking of the ones I collected. Overall the game has improved a bit and there is still away to go. They need to orangise the game better in my opinion.

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IGN tore DI2.0 apart. They make good points. All of the playsets do feel the same and are dull.

DI2.0 always feels so limited in my eyes. They barely release any good Disney figures, and now with Marvel, only five new Disney figures are coming. If they don't keep up both brands with each new game, it was a waste to even use the Marvel liscense. I imagine the next game will feature Star Wars, and then the 4th game will what, ditch them possibly?

I don't see Infinity having long legs honestly, and especially after the second game is getting more mixed reviews compared to the first. However, the brand brought it upon itself. At least Skylanders does something new each game. Each game only feels the same in terms of levels. However, Feats of Strength and Brocks Arena in Giants, Score/Time Attack, Swap Zones, Survival/Bonus Missions in Swap Force, and Trapping in Trap Team, at least offers variety in each game.

To be far, not everything from disney infinity has been released yet. There will be more disney figures, and even the other playsets (if there are more) have a possibility of being disney. We'll have to wait and see of course.

Unlike Activision that has never attempted to release a patch of a single Skylanders game, Disney is far more inclined to provide support for the game via online connections. They are already allowing for digital 2.0 upgrades for people. I think anyone getting upset about the lack of classic character figures or playsets at this point might be a bit premature. Skylanders isnt supporting the Adventure packs across games very well. So the playsets not carrying over beyond toybox items shouldnt be a shocking aspect to anyone.

Star Wars has been heavily hinted for 2015, and implication of supporting figures releases for 2.0 through at least 2016. I'm really waiting for someone to poke around the game coding for DI2 here in the next couple weeks and see if there are any hidden bits to imply spoilers.

I've played a bit through all three playsets and have found them to be no-where near as bad as the reviews are making them out to be. They haven't really felt samey or dull and plain at all. and the repetitiveness of quests? no more so than anything else, there is enough variety to keep me interested.

i'm probably doing what i'm about to say they shouldn't do, but it is pretty obvious it isn't COD or GTA or Dark Souls, so it isn't going to appeal to people who classify themselves as "mature" or "dark" gamers. (you know what i mean, i can't think of an appropriate name for the pigeon hole i'm trying to stuff my generalised stereotype into) So it really needs to be reviewed by a "family gaming" type of reviewist. it seems that the playsets are expected to be games comparable to a triple A title.

Not sure about the length, whether they feel too short, i've only played each playset for a little under an hour each, reviews say 5 hours each, i think that is okay when i see the playsets as essentially a $30 game, even less if the figures that come with the playsets are taken into account. (i value toys as toys, and not just video game characters)

I haven't really done much in toy box, i don't really enjoy the sandbox building type mine crafty things, but there seems to be a bit more structure and goals etc so i might enjoy it more, i'll give it a go when i'm done with the playsets.


i think the reviews for Trap Team will generally be similar, for the same reasons, most review sites have reviews from "hardcore" "mature" "dark" gamers, a generalisation i know.

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I've played a bit through all three playsets and have found them to be no-where near as bad as the reviews are making them out to be. They haven't really felt samey or dull and plain at all. and the repetitiveness of quests? no more so than anything else, there is enough variety to keep me interested.

i'm probably doing what i'm about to say they shouldn't do, but it is pretty obvious it isn't COD or GTA or Dark Souls, so it isn't going to appeal to people who classify themselves as "mature" or "dark" gamers. (you know what i mean, i can't think of an appropriate name for the pigeon hole i'm trying to stuff my generalised stereotype into) So it really needs to be reviewed by a "family gaming" type of reviewist. it seems that the playsets are expected to be games comparable to a triple A title.

Not sure about the length, whether they feel too short, i've only played each playset for a little under an hour each, reviews say 5 hours each, i think that is okay when i see the playsets as essentially a $30 game, even less if the figures that come with the playsets are taken into account. (i value toys as toys, and not just video game characters)

I haven't really done much in toy box, i don't really enjoy the sandbox building type mine crafty things, but there seems to be a bit more structure and goals etc so i might enjoy it more, i'll give it a go when i'm done with the playsets.


i think the reviews for Trap Team will generally be similar, for the same reasons, most review sites have reviews from "hardcore" "mature" "dark" gamers, a generalisation i know.

This is an incredibly good point. The sites that just rated Destiny are now rating DI2.0. Of course the playsets will seem "boring" or "repetitive" after an incredible mature game like Destiny. I still preordered my 2.0 with confidence that /I/ will love it, even if the more hardcore gamers think it falls flat.

One thing that really makes me laugh, and i am only speaking about my circle of friends here, is the same people that "give me a hard time" about the repetitiveness of the 3 video game franchises that i play and enjoy (pokemon, skylanders and Disney Infinity) have no issue doing the same level, fighting the same enemies to get to the same boss, over and over to get the item drop they want. A couple see the funny side, a couple don't.

Smart man...

Guys, don't go by IGN and the like's reviews even if the game isn't out yet. They're the first to make kid oriented games a negative point from the get go. 'Repetitive' and 'simple' get thrown a lot around but all they mean it is 'this isn't hardcore stuff I like as an adult so it sucks'. And they won't EVER take the franchise in consideration unless it's to say it's not like the previous game and thus bad - Kirby Triple Deluxe's review had this in spades because I guess the Kirby series was too plebian casual gaming for the reviewer to do some research and know the games are SUPPOSED to be easy(and KTD is the hardest game in the series by far,too).

Ok let's say
Skylanders characters are made from sketches to prototypes to 3-d models to the figure that's why I love skylanders.

D.I there are not made from scratch they choose original and marvel characters that already made

See differences

Bifrost, the game has been out since Thursday in some place. I already have the Platinum trophy for the PS4 version.

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Ok let's say
Skylanders characters are made from sketches to prototypes to 3-d models to the figure that's why I love skylanders.

D.I there are not made from scratch they choose original and marvel characters that already made

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that is why you like skylanders. (it is one of the reasons why i like it too)

but it is also the same reason why a lot of people like D.I. (like me, i like playing with characters i already have an attachment to)

the GotG playset is really fun to play, and part of that is that it is the last movie i saw at the cinema, so all the characters are fresh in my head.


I am pretty confident that "IGN and the like" will give Trap Team a similar review.

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I am pretty confident that "IGN and the like" will give Trap Team a similar review.

No doubt about it, that's why I don't go for those reviewers at all; I'd rather see it from youtubers who've been covering this game or have done so right in the past. I already don't trust the ethics of some of those sites let alone how their reviewers think of games that are clearly not their cup of tea.

(sorry for not noticing the release date thing, think I mixed up post dates here and thought it was a week away)

Not only does IGN not mention anything about the game not being "dark" or "mature" enough, but they also give high ratings to both Swap Force and Disney Infinity.

It all depends on how much hollow repetition you're willing to go through for the sake of playing as a figurine of a Marvel hero. For a lot less money, why not get a few of the numerous, current, fully-articulated actual Marvel action figures and a copy of Ultimate Alliance and just pretend?

They never used these terms for kid oriented games directly, and those two reviews are exceptions. As I said, they go for repetitive, easy, simple, lacking in depth - all but the first thing appeals to casuals but in this case somehow it's the worst thing ever. And it actually depends on the reviewer - some do a decent job, some do just fine, then there's the few guys that seem to have a vendetta against certain companies or franchises like whoever keeps reviewing Sonic games and giving it bad ratings for all the wrong reasons(even if the game ends up being mediocre, but the REASONS are usually full of crap).

And on the repetitive toy thing, it's not like kids won't like that either way. It's not about having lots of different things to do, it's just about playing as freaking Iron Man. What matters is how long the kids will want DI 2.0 figures until they lose interest, but for a while it's almost guaranteed.

I agree, most critics are looking for cutting-edge, boundary-pushing, avant garde products. When they give a six or a seven to a game that is maybe a niche style or property i really like, that's one thing; chances are good that it's worth it for me. But most of these reviewers seem to be genuinely disappointed. They wanted to give it the benefit of the doubt, but ultimately have a responsibility to be objective and not support gameplay that is just plain un-fun. Wishing something is worthwhile don't make it so.

Not to mention, kids are usually less forgiving about repetition and disappointment than adults; they quickly adapt and move on to something else. No parent wants to shell out this kinda scratch for something that won't last very long. I know firsthand.

At least the Toy Box is getting better; that's reason enough for some to make a purchase.

Here is why i think DI 2.0 is better

1. Skylanders really hasn't changed over the years. Giants was the same as Spyro's Adventure but with just bigger figures. Swap Force was good, providing more change with the swap-able abilities. Trap Team however, really is just the same, since regular villains are Skylanders with less powers, and Doom Raiders are Skylanders on a timer. And Trapmasters are no different, except that they have semi-see-through weapons.

2. Disney Infinity has realized the appeal of an open world, with the abilities of flying and exploring a giant world. Skylanders hubs are a little bigger, but they still are much smaller than the world in the Avengers or Spiderman playset.

3. Spending $35 for an almost new complete game is much better than $25 for only one new level. The playsets are huge, with 2 characters, whereas the Adventure Packs come with one character, 2 okay magic items, and one small level

4. Disney Infinity 2.0 is cheaper for the whole experience (75+35+35=$145) but Trap Team costs a lot more (75+25+25+25+25(adventure packs)+15+15+6+6(traps)=$217)

5. The Toy Box gives a lot of creativity, and more replay appeal, but at least for me, when i beat Skylanders, i never really play it again.

6. Disney Infinity Figures now have a lot more upgrades and different attacks, but Skylanders only have 3 attacks, with some having charge attacks.

If you have anything else to add or dispute, i will be happy to discuss it

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Here is why i think DI 2.0 is better

1. Skylanders really hasn't changed over the years. Giants was the same as Spyro's Adventure but with just bigger figures. Swap Force was good, providing more change with the swap-able abilities. Trap Team however, really is just the same, since regular villains are Skylanders with less powers, and Doom Raiders are Skylanders on a timer. And Trapmasters are no different, except that they have semi-see-through weapons.

2. Disney Infinity has realized the appeal of an open world, with the abilities of flying and exploring a giant world. Skylanders hubs are a little bigger, but they still are much smaller than the world in the Avengers or Spiderman playset.

3. Spending $35 for an almost new complete game is much better than $25 for only one new level. The playsets are huge, with 2 characters, whereas the Adventure Packs come with one character, 2 okay magic items, and one small level

4. Disney Infinity 2.0 is cheaper for the whole experience (75+35+35=$145) but Trap Team costs a lot more (75+25+25+25+25(adventure packs)+15+15+6+6(traps)=$217)

5. The Toy Box gives a lot of creativity, and more replay appeal, but at least for me, when i beat Skylanders, i never really play it again.

6. Disney Infinity Figures now have a lot more upgrades and different attacks, but Skylanders only have 3 attacks, with some having charge attacks.

If you have anything else to add or dispute, i will be happy to discuss it

And here are the issues I take with some of that. Keep in mind, I am getting DI2.0 tomorrow and I hope it's a good and fun game...

1) So let's agree that neither franchise truly "changes" beyond minor things.

2) Open world vs. linear level is a major debate. The open world concept is great when executed correctly, but it can fail catastrophically. DI1.0 didn't do open world well in the Play Sets. Open world is inherently more confusing. People say "you can explore" but what does that really mean after a couple minutes? Driving off cliffs out of boredom? Most players need a reason or goal to do things. On the other side, linear levels are more cut-and-dry but they're less confusing and easier to make appear more polished. DI1.0 felt more like a beta at times than a finished game.

3) "Almost new complete game" ... I keep reading that these DI2.0 play sets take 5 hours to complete. That doesn't qualify as a complete game by my standards.

4) Yes, it may be "cheaper" but that's not entirely a fair and equal comparison. You have a lot more physical items on the TT side than DI2.0

5) This definitely varies by player. I have absolutely zero interest in building anything in the Toy Box, so for me that entire mode is just whatever completed levels are downloadable. The Toy Box in DI1.0 I found completely underwhelming. I never finished a single Toy Box level, honestly. I'd much rather play the bonus missions in Skylanders or the upcoming Doom Challenge.

6) How is that a pro-DI2.0 argument? Yes, it took DI a 2nd game to catch up to where Skylanders was from the beginning. You're right that some have charge attacks; some others have ranged attacks, some have mines, some have melee attacks, and some have oddball skills unlike any others.

So that's where I stand at least. Again, I have DI2.0 preordered and I'm crossing my fingers that I don't regret it. I found DI1.0 to be stale and boring; a children's video game equivalent of The Lord of the Rings...walk here, walk there, run here, go back this way, briefly fight a thing, ok now walk some more...zzz. However, Avengers and GotG are awesome series and the play sets should be modestly enjoyable at least, hopefully more.

Ok thanks for the feedback

I agree with most of what you said but i do have 2 more points.

The toy box, if you like it (which does depend on the person as you said) gives you more replay still than the challenges. Once you beat the challenges, at least to me, you don't really want to replay them. but again, it really depends on the person.

I forgot about the time length of the playsets, but i do know that adventure packs took me about 20-30 min to complete tops. For only 10 dollars more and 4 1/2 more hours, i still think the playsets are a better deal.

However, both games require much improvement, and although i only pre-ordered DI2 and not STT, i still think i will enjoy both games.

Every play set in Disney infinity felt the same, that's the problem. They're all open world games, with nothing else in terms of variety to set them apart.

I'm sorry, but Skylanders does a lot to change the game every year. Feats of strength in Giants, Swap Zones in swap force, and trapping enemies in Trap Team.

In terms of longevity, Swap Force got that down pat.

480 stars to collect across story, score mode, time attack, survival arenas, bonus missions, swap zone challenges, makes for a lot of gameplay.

Each play set for the first DI dragged because it all felt the same, due to a lack of things to do in said open worlds.

Trap Team will get a better score than 2.0. I know this because at least each game feels different. I imagine if I were to boot up Spider-Man, gotg, or avengers tomorrow, they would all feel the same. I can predict all of them will be open world games with little to do in them, but they will have different stories.

Where were the feats of strength in Swap Force? Where are the Swap Zones in Trap Team ? It's unlikely well have traps serving a purpose in the next game. Its not changing the game when those parts suddenly disappear the next go round. It becomes a gimmick, not progressive to the mechanics. The DI playsets should really be compared to the adventure packs for Skylanders. Because it comes down to the same thing, after you run through the level a couple times, and find all the hidden stuff, it becomes repetitive. 2.0's main "game" in the toybox. The point of the toybox is pretty much to make your own fun buy building stuff. I think this time around they have two pre-loaded games from the toybox in the vein of tower defense and dungeon crawling with the starter's game discs. In this people will be able to make their own levels to play, or download them from others.

I enjoy both games. I really love the toy box. I am a little more excited for DI but not by much. I will always love Skylanders but I'm not feeling it with this game like I did with Swap Force. ALso, I don't know why some people bring up that DI figures are more expensive when half of the skylander figures are priced at 15 and only half are priced at 10.

Because traps are going for 8 dollars and you can have 3-6 characters in them, at the cost of one attack for most?

If we're going to credit playsets for longevity, I think we need to ding them for lack of content in the starter pack, compared to TT.

With less than two weeks until release, there are no early reviews of Trap Team, nor do we have full, comprehensive disclosure regarding the figures. Obviously they want to keep things under wraps, but is this how the previous two games were handled? Or should we be concerned?

It's different from the two previous games,but for a reason. Before we'd have a LOT of information from leaks plus interviews, and now the interviews barely have enough things other than level footage and the leaks are how we're seeing most characters to begin with before release because the website updated so late.
It's nothing to be concerned about (I know 3 users who'll tell you otherwise though), but it's hard to tell if it's going to work.TFB seems to be trying to hype us for surprises.

All right I got some time with DI2.0 yesterday. I canceled my pre-order due to reviews honestly, then bumped into copies on the shelf at BJs so I went ahead and got it then.

To ignore the reviews would be idiotic.

To take them at their worth would be idiotic.

I think reviews for TT will have this over DI2.0 - the content that is accessible with a starter pack purchase is vastly superior in TT. Yes they have adventure packs *sigh 2 new ones apparently*, but those are more like expansion packs. With DI2.0 - the main game is really all THREE (GotG, Avengers, Spiderman), but split up. Reviewers almost all so far have been basing the review on only the Starter package for DI2.0 - and unrealistic representation of the product, yet fair since Disney wants to poach content. This has really killed the reviews. That and the fact that 75% of the reviews I read are honestly more about the 'Toys to Life' genre than the actual game.

So far the game really is a bunch of fetch quest. But I'm not going to be one-sided and pretend Skylander's hasn't been that either. The progression of the game is very similar to Skylander's conceptually, though Skylanders interjects puzzles and little odds and ends to break up the monotony, while DI gives you an open world with revolving side-missions.

Without writing up a review myself I will say.

Trap Team will be the better series to spend money on...based on the Skylander record thus far, and my interaction with DI1.0 and 2.0. The figures for DI2.0 aren't as homogenized as they were in DI1.0, but the difference is minimal - I have Thor/IM/Widow/Venom/CapA played with, and Groot/Hawkeye/RR in the car to try out tonight - and it all boils down to melee attack, ranged attack, special attack that has to be saved up. There was no difference playing Ironman versus Black Widow short of 'flight'. Ironman kills a little faster than CapA, but all in all, its still a bunch of clones - even with Skill Tree. On the flipside, with TT and Skylander's in general, sure attacks and the such are often borrowed from other characters, there is usually a distinct synergy and style that comes with played as a certain character. Bumbleblast is different from Drobot despite both being overpowered ranged characters. Both are different from Zook, despite being long ranged characters. Ownership of TT characters just seems like a better experience.

Yes I like the molds better for DI, but hte painting was NOT good at all - CapA's face paint job wasn't good, my Venom's teeth are gummy with too much pink, and his left arm has artifacts and the such indicating it wasn't properly handled. The WORST paint job I have seen on Skylanders are still better. My son, the 3 year old loves playing with the Skylanders, but admittedly does seem to get a fair amount mroe joy - playing with Marvel figurines. Ironman beat Venom last night haha.

All in all, I think DI2.0 will be a fun pick-up, but putting a lot of money into it will be a mistake. You're best bet is to honestly grab a starter set on deal, and just pick up the playsets when on sale. I wouldn't buy any figures unless there is attachment that extends beyond playing them in the game (my son is on a Groot kick right now for instance). I think TT will be better for 'buying a lot of Wave 1' stuff.
- Unreall