darkSpyro

I'm very upset that Robin is gone and that he took his own life. It's tragic that he wasn't able to overcome his depression despite years of efforts and attempts at it (as well as sobering up). And that guy really needs to word his thoughts better and not be a dick.

BUT

I really hope people aren't going to start justifying suicide now or even implying that people who don't commit suicide are the cowardly ones.

Quote: Spyro Fanatic

Quote: zer0dch

I haven't seen the video yet, but suicide is an act of selfishness and cowardlyness. I love the guy, but suicide isn't the way to go.

How the **** is facing death on your own terms cowardly? The ones who cling onto life at the last moments not wanting to die are the cowards.

Think of depression of a severed internal blood vessel. The bleeding is constant, you feel it during the day and night, even in your dreams you can't escape. Eventually the bleeding stops and you become nothing but a husk. You either feel pain or nothing at all. Joy is completely gone and you can't figure out why. Everyone throws their two cents worth at you, enforcing their selfish and rude opinions on how you should live with no understanding, knowledge and consideration on how you feel. I keep getting told life is made by your choices, and if that's true then suicide is a part of life and I'll make my own decision on weather I'll do it or not.

And how is it selfish to those around you? If someone I loved killed themselves, it was their own choice and they're no longer in pain, for the first time in their life, they're free from everything. But to say it was selfish of them and now you're in pain, guess what, you're now feeling what they felt and you hate them for it. How selfish and cowardly is that? You've learnt nothing.

Suicide has always been considered a permanent solution to a temporary problem (even Robin has said that in interviews in the past). Robin was an exception in that depression plagued him for years (perhaps decades), but for most of us fits of actual depression don't last nearly as long. And when you commit suicide, that's it. Game over. It's done with. You felt that the only way to handle your depression and bad thoughts was to take your entire life away and leave your family and friends in a state of grief and guilt. That's selfish. And a refusal to handle depression head on and end your life is also cowardly. It may be a very scary idea to kill yourself and many people who attempt suicide find a way over that fear, but it's still taking the easier way out and damaging everybody around you in the process. It's like self-destructing.

And that last paragraph of yours would only further make the other party feel guilty over the actions of somebody they loved. What if they didn't do anything to cause their depression? What if they did something but the person never said it?

We seem to be going off the implication that whoever is depressed is depressed on the scale as Robin was, and at a similar length. Robin was a special case of someone who tried for years to get help and get over it and he just couldn't (and even then I find it tragic he took himself). Most people aren't like that. They're depressed for a few months, maybe a few years, and they still have moments where they find peace and happiness. Perfectly capable to get help, and if it's a teen suffering it, it's also very easy to assume that it'll be over once they escape high school or whatever it is that plagues them.

So yeah. I do think that in most situations suicide is a selfish and, perhaps even cowardly act. Killing yourself ends up appearing and being the easier way out of temporary problems. And when you do it, you're not only ending your life forever, but you're also condemning people who cared about you to feel just as bad as you did.

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Just gonna reiterate that what I said above is not about Robin. I don't like that he committed suicide but I also understand that this has bothered him for a large chunk of his adult life and he had already tried to get help.