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Legodude56 Blue Sparx Gems: 710
#751 Posted: 21:32:46 17/12/2012
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I have her on super shards right now and I can heal fifteen every second and a half. Just when standing next to them. Not shooting new ones. That makes her heal much faster.



Problem is, when doing that you're not moving! And when you're not moving, you can get destroyed by your enemy/enemies when you are vulnerable.

Don't think I'm showing bias (I don't like Trashwing much, too much like Trigger Happy for my tastes), Super Shards was fun, but is outclassed by Super Spinner in strength levels.


The thing is, while your healing, you keep hitting the main attack button to shoot the crystals backwards towards the enemies, so you're not completely vulnerable.
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PokeLink09 Blue Sparx Gems: 946
#752 Posted: 01:00:40 18/12/2012
I believe that this is all a matter of play style. If you like to have more fun while playing and not necessarily win all the time, super shards is for you. If you like to spam attacks that are powerful and move quickly, super spinner is good for you.
For me, I like Cynder's Shadow Dancer Path more than her Nether Welder path because I find it more fun to summon ghost than to shoot lightning. I do agree that Nether Welder is stronger though, so all of thes Skylander Paths are based on play style.
Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#753 Posted: 01:01:50 18/12/2012
shadowdancer used to be better. than she got nerfed.
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#754 Posted: 01:45:33 18/12/2012
I recommend Nether welder, the shadow dash does not suffer much in the trade off.
Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#755 Posted: 02:21:02 18/12/2012
The exploding ghosts are amazing. I am super satisfied with her.
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#756 Posted: 02:22:51 20/12/2012 | Topic Creator
S2 DOUBLE TROUBLE his wow pow is AWESOME
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matrix Yellow Sparx Gems: 1441
#757 Posted: 02:44:59 20/12/2012
Which path for Flashwing? (I want somebody who has tried both)
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Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#758 Posted: 02:47:27 20/12/2012
I have, and shards is definitely more fun and powerful. You can heal yourself very quickly! In pvp, my shards beat my cousin's spinner.
matrix Yellow Sparx Gems: 1441
#759 Posted: 05:16:36 20/12/2012
Quote: Thumpterra12
I have, and shards is definitely more fun and powerful. You can heal yourself very quickly! In pvp, my shards beat my cousin's spinner.



Thanks! Good thing I chose shards!
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#760 Posted: 13:03:42 20/12/2012
Quote: matrix
Which path for Flashwing? (I want somebody who has tried both)

Quote: Thumpterra12
I have, and shards is definitely more fun and powerful. You can heal yourself very quickly! In pvp, my shards beat my cousin's spinner.

@matrix, Thumpterra12 is extremely incorrect unless he is using an arena that has a lot of walls, Super Spinner is a TON more fun, and more powerful.
joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#761 Posted: 14:58:13 20/12/2012 | Topic Creator
^ THANK YOU! Often times you're biased towards the path you are on now. I HONESTLY do NOT believe you that you've tried botg
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#762 Posted: 15:39:38 20/12/2012
i tried both. really. spinner was fun shooting lasers while spinning, but not as much dmg. the healing really helps you win!
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#763 Posted: 15:45:57 20/12/2012
I've tried both too and I find it really hard to pick my path ; they are both fun and powerful! But I choose super shards because of the healing, it's soooooo helpful even it heals you not very fast it is really helpful
Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#764 Posted: 15:47:44 20/12/2012
well, i never use her any more, so whatsda point of arguing over this? she isnt the best, so why bother?
matrix Yellow Sparx Gems: 1441
#765 Posted: 15:55:14 20/12/2012
Quote: weebbby
Quote: matrix
Which path for Flashwing? (I want somebody who has tried both)

Quote: Thumpterra12
I have, and shards is definitely more fun and powerful. You can heal yourself very quickly! In pvp, my shards beat my cousin's spinner.

@matrix, Thumpterra12 is extremely incorrect unless he is using an arena that has a lot of walls, Super Spinner is a TON more fun, and more powerful.



Ok, sorry ThumpTerra but you did think Crusher's rubble path is better, i'm going to try spinner smilie
EDIT @ ThumpTerra, it matters, there are no "best" they are all good in different ways (in my mind)
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Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#766 Posted: 16:06:56 20/12/2012
well, can flashwing beat double trouble? i thought so. smilie is among the best. so is smilie and smilie. no undead type can beat smilie, even with the advantage. in my opinion, smilie is the best, even if he sometimes loses to dino rang and terrafin because of the type advantage.
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#767 Posted: 16:09:34 20/12/2012
Quote: matrix
Ok, sorry ThumpTerra but you did think Crusher's rubble path is better, i'm going to try spinner smilie
EDIT @ ThumpTerra, it matters, there are no "best" they are all good in different ways (in my mind)

I think that "best" in this game is a matter of situation. Could my Stealth Elf take down Flashwing in PVP against an equally inexperienced player? No, because she couldn't get close; Hex didn't need to be within range to hit Flashwing, and she's the only one that beat her. However, I have more difficulty using Hex in story mode than Stealth Elf due to Stealth Elf's superior speed and melee attacks. Keep in mind, though, that I just started playing this game and none of my Skylanders are fully upgraded yet (most of them don't even have a path picked out yet).

Speaking of Hex, if I want to keep her as a PVPer, I should chose Bone Crafter, yes? That's what I've been hearing. Also, with Hot Head, does the improved Sizzle Shower do enough damage to be worth not upgrading his flame and oil anymore (Oil Baron over Burninator?)? I like the idea of a continuous flame, but have difficulty correctly using the oil. Thirdly, what do you recommend for Crusher, and why? Right now, I'm thinking of choosing Rubble Master because it seems easier to aim and more interesting.

.. hang on a minute. There are type advantages in this game?
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matrix Yellow Sparx Gems: 1441
#768 Posted: 16:09:54 20/12/2012
Quote: Thumpterra12
well, can flashwing beat double trouble? i thought so. smilie is among the best. so is smilie and smilie. no undead type can beat smilie, even with the advantage. in my opinion, smilie is the best, even if he sometimes loses to dino rang and terrafin because of the type advantage.



Dude, your basing it off the old game aren't you? In Skylanders: Giants, I played as Dino-Rang and they fixed him, he is not overpowered anymore, along with Ghost Roaster, Stealth Elf, etc. And Flashwaing is actually really good, in fact, Drill Sargent isn't, lol.
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#769 Posted: 16:14:40 20/12/2012
no, s2 drill sergeant is by far the best tech type. every 4th autoblast does 10 dmg, and that adds up. he is also the 2nd fastest skylander, s2 flameslinger being the 1st. the autoblast even shoots behind him, so he can run away while killing them.
matrix Yellow Sparx Gems: 1441
#770 Posted: 16:22:47 20/12/2012
Quote: Thumpterra12
no, s2 drill sergeant is by far the best tech type. every 4th autoblast does 10 dmg, and that adds up. he is also the 2nd fastest skylander, s2 flameslinger being the 1st. the autoblast even shoots behind him, so he can run away while killing them.



Everybody's balanced.
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#771 Posted: 16:28:36 20/12/2012
how is zap balanced?
joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#772 Posted: 23:21:05 20/12/2012 | Topic Creator
Quote: Thumpterra12
no, s2 drill sergeant is by far the best tech type. every 4th autoblast does 10 dmg, and that adds up. he is also the 2nd fastest skylander, s2 flameslinger being the 1st. the autoblast even shoots behind him, so he can run away while killing them.



Notice how Tashiji said the EXACT same thing.

The reason that Super Spinner is better is because it ACTUALLY improves something.

It makes this set up:
Spin: 14 > 7
Light beam: 9 > 0
Shards: 13 = 13
Back shards: 13 = 13
Lighthouse: 21 = 21


And most places dot have walls!
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#773 Posted: 23:24:15 20/12/2012
Quote: joerox123
Quote: Thumpterra12
no, s2 drill sergeant is by far the best tech type. every 4th autoblast does 10 dmg, and that adds up. he is also the 2nd fastest skylander, s2 flameslinger being the 1st. the autoblast even shoots behind him, so he can run away while killing them.



Notice how Tashiji said the EXACT same thing.

The reason that Super Spinner is better is because it ACTUALLY improves something.

It makes this set up:
Spin: 14 > 7
Light beam: 9 > 0
Shards: 13 = 13
Back shards: 13 = 13
Lighthouse: 21 = 21


And most places don't have walls!

This is exactly what I have been saying!!!
joerox123 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1992
#774 Posted: 23:25:44 20/12/2012 | Topic Creator
^ I AGREE 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
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Stealthelfrocks Yellow Sparx Gems: 1235
#775 Posted: 01:36:08 21/12/2012
I will also have to agree. Also if a meele attacker came close to flashing she could just spin, to keep them all away
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well guys..... took me a while.... but i might still hang around.... dont know..... but.... I loved the moment while it lasted smilie
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#776 Posted: 01:38:10 21/12/2012
I have a super shard flashy.
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#777 Posted: 01:50:05 21/12/2012
Two things:

1. My Flashwing is really broken on her Super Spinner path. 14 damage/tick adds up quickly, and allows her to take out even the toughest enemies(*cough*Arkeyan Shield Juggernauts*cough*). Now if only she could fly...

2. My Shroomboom is on the mediocre path Paramushroom Promotion which I only chose for the slingshot upgrade. Should I reset him down Barrier Boost?
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weebbby Emerald Sparx Gems: 4220
#778 Posted: 01:52:23 21/12/2012
1. Exactly.
2. No, you should not reset.
Tashiji Yellow Sparx Gems: 1453
#779 Posted: 01:56:22 21/12/2012
Flashwing doesn't beat the game's top melee characters. Just thought I'd throw that out there. And also, numbers aren't everything. Clearly Super Shards' damage improves. We can't just throw math out there without talking about how crystal refraction increases damage, because the effect can be quite large; she's about three or four times as damaging with crystals as Spinner, even if all you see is a string of 13. Believe me, the string of 13 is going to be ticking far faster on Super Shards. There are lots of relative strengths to compare the two paths, but crystal damage is not Spinner's strong suit here. It's just not.

Anyway, Flashwing is an opinion character for the most part, and largely dependent on which mode of play you're using her for. Even in PVP, she behaves similarly to Lightning Rod, in that both paths are made for one very specific purpose and completely fail against one another's specialty.

There's not a better path. That's why we can't settle this. Most Skylanders aren't balanced, but they did a fair enough job on Flashwing, trust me. Vhraina mains Flashwing and has played both paths to death with me. Neither one is bad, and each is distinctly more useful than the other depending entirely on the situation and nothing to do with their base abilities.

I prefer Shards. Why? Health, higher and more reliable damage. Do I see why others prefer Spinner? Sure do. Defensively rock-solid and fast. You trade one for the other. Can't have your cake and eat it too with Flashwing.
Stealthelfrocks Yellow Sparx Gems: 1235
#780 Posted: 10:10:41 21/12/2012
Nice for clearing it up. And...

Who thinks stealthelf is awesome on the scarecrow path for pvp? I just tested her out with the axe crows and she is epically AWESOME. You cab lock the other person's path with the spinning scarecrows and the persona never knows when your using the scare crows. Cons? You can't see yourself moving
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well guys..... took me a while.... but i might still hang around.... dont know..... but.... I loved the moment while it lasted smilie
Tashiji Yellow Sparx Gems: 1453
#781 Posted: 11:02:50 21/12/2012
^ I actually totally agree that Forest Ninja is epic now. I don't know if she can beat the sheer volume of characters as PB Stealth Elf, but she's come metaphorical miles. Definitely can see why you'd enjoy the path; the whole metagame is defense, defense, defense now, and she's rather nice at it.
matrix Yellow Sparx Gems: 1441
#782 Posted: 17:15:37 21/12/2012
I'm changing Flashwings path, thanks guys!
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Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#783 Posted: 17:20:53 21/12/2012
Quote: Stealthelfrocks
Nice for clearing it up. And...

Who thinks stealthelf is awesome on the scarecrow path for pvp? I just tested her out with the axe crows and she is epically AWESOME. You cab lock the other person's path with the spinning scarecrows and the persona never knows when your using the scare crows. Cons? You can't see yourself moving



Okay, im switching paths! Seems awesome! With pook, you just mash A.
Stealthelfrocks Yellow Sparx Gems: 1235
#784 Posted: 22:58:59 21/12/2012
I know, not much fun. This path is more fun, and the spinning blades are awesome
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well guys..... took me a while.... but i might still hang around.... dont know..... but.... I loved the moment while it lasted smilie
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#785 Posted: 23:04:16 21/12/2012
It sounds really fun! I have to wait till tomorrow to play, though. smilie
Stealthelfrocks Yellow Sparx Gems: 1235
#786 Posted: 23:54:47 21/12/2012
I've went down the pook blade path and the combos are nice... But then your scarecrows become completely useless. Still the combos I like
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well guys..... took me a while.... but i might still hang around.... dont know..... but.... I loved the moment while it lasted smilie
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#787 Posted: 00:08:34 22/12/2012 | Topic Creator
I have LOVED FN since the beginning!
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#788 Posted: 01:06:04 22/12/2012
I never liked FN. Pook Saint Blade was the only path which makes her all out deadly. She is the only one who can take on smilie
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#789 Posted: 01:16:35 22/12/2012
what is FN?And trying both paths is what S2 is for (witch I just got)
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#790 Posted: 01:18:17 22/12/2012
^ FN is Forest Ninja for Stealth Elf.
Stealthelfrocks Yellow Sparx Gems: 1235
#791 Posted: 04:15:21 22/12/2012
I had doubts about fn until I upgraded to the axes... And I. Almost beat terrafin with it.
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well guys..... took me a while.... but i might still hang around.... dont know..... but.... I loved the moment while it lasted smilie
Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#792 Posted: 04:19:20 22/12/2012
Quote: milton310
I never liked FN. Pook Saint Blade was the only path which makes her all out deadly. She is the only one who can take on smilie



She does seem like someone who can beat smilie. She is much faster, and can obliterAte him. The combos on pook blade saint are too low dmging. It is like, 5 dmg per 1/2 second. Both combos.
Stealthelfrocks Yellow Sparx Gems: 1235
#793 Posted: 04:29:09 22/12/2012
ALso for all of her attacks (not scarecrow) you need to get up close to them. And if you get close to a double trouble he uses a magic bomb on you
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well guys..... took me a while.... but i might still hang around.... dont know..... but.... I loved the moment while it lasted smilie
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#794 Posted: 04:38:45 22/12/2012
Oh yah, corgot bout the bomb. The only skylander in my experience who could beat smilie is smilie really good character
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#795 Posted: 17:14:26 22/12/2012
Tree Rex on which path? Is there a significant detriment to using the laser on Treefolk Charger? I mean, is the laser bad in comparison? I am reluctant to choose Lumbering Laserer because the charge seems pretty useless as is right now, and I'd like to make it better. Same with Hot Head and Sizzle Shower.
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Thumpterra12 Ripto Gems: 120
#796 Posted: 17:57:56 22/12/2012
um, the charge goes really quickly, does 100 dmg, and you can spam lasers at a distance. he is amazing. hot head oil baron still takes time to make the shower, but the opponent will be taking insane dmg if they get close. the 100 dmg meteor is awesome, too. the oil bursts give a nice way to do even MORE dmg.
milton310 Blue Sparx Gems: 958
#797 Posted: 20:27:09 22/12/2012
I find Oil Baron the Best Path
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#798 Posted: 21:47:45 22/12/2012
I recommend Marksman Path for Flameslinger
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#799 Posted: 08:28:43 23/12/2012
Charge path is good for tree Rex, it's fast, strong, and your woodpecker has a chance to attack once your close your opponent
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well guys..... took me a while.... but i might still hang around.... dont know..... but.... I loved the moment while it lasted smilie
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#800 Posted: 14:01:56 23/12/2012
Quote: milton310
I find Oil Baron the Best Path



same here.


@stealthelfrocks

i tried forest ninja! so fun!
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