darkSpyro

How do we add texture mods into the game?

You know that wonderful feeling you get when your in a heated battle, were its one hit KO on anything, and everything is on the line. Then, from out of know where, you land that impossible combo that gives you the win. That's an awesome feeling, you know.

Quote: HeyitsHotDog

How do we add texture mods into the game?

A few people have knowledge on how to do it, but as far as I know it's not being spread yet.

For now, I think people willing to do texture mods just send them in to these guys when they are done, so I am doing that soon if I can.

Anyway, I don't wanna upload videos on Youtube, can anyone recommend another site that will work just as good?

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Anyway, I don't wanna upload videos on Youtube, can anyone recommend another site that will work just as good?

Dailymotion.

Quote: Camo22

Anyway, I don't wanna upload videos on Youtube, can anyone recommend another site that will work just as good?

Why not YouTube?

out of curiosity

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Quote: Camo22

Anyway, I don't wanna upload videos on Youtube, can anyone recommend another site that will work just as good?

Why not YouTube?

out of curiosity

Well, I'm saving my Youtube account for... other purposes. Last thing I want is for people to subscribe when my account is not for SMASH. So... yeah.

I mostly play Smash Wii U though I can bust out the 3DS if someone can't play otherwise. It's been a long time since I fought anyone from here outside Brawler, Strider, and sP so if anyone is ever down for a fight I'm down; just send a message or reply here.

It's time I really shook off rust.

Quote: Camo22

Quote: I-Brawler

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Anyway, I don't wanna upload videos on Youtube, can anyone recommend another site that will work just as good?

Why not YouTube?

out of curiosity

Well, I'm saving my Youtube account for... other purposes. Last thing I want is for people to subscribe when my account is not for SMASH. So... yeah.

you want it for sonic don't you?

Quote: CAV

I mostly play Smash Wii U though I can bust out the 3DS if someone can't play otherwise. It's been a long time since I fought anyone from here outside Brawler, Strider, and sP so if anyone is ever down for a fight I'm down; just send a message or reply here.

It's time I really shook off rust.

I can battle in... 4 hours, give or take.

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Quote: I-Brawler

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Anyway, I don't wanna upload videos on Youtube, can anyone recommend another site that will work just as good?

Why not YouTube?

out of curiosity

Well, I'm saving my Youtube account for... other purposes. Last thing I want is for people to subscribe when my account is not for SMASH. So... yeah.

You do know you can make ANOTHER YouTube account, right?

Quote: Camo22

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Anyway, I don't wanna upload videos on Youtube, can anyone recommend another site that will work just as good?

Why not YouTube?

out of curiosity

Well, I'm saving my Youtube account for... other purposes. Last thing I want is for people to subscribe when my account is not for SMASH. So... yeah.

Nobody is gonna sub to you.

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You do know you can make ANOTHER YouTube account, right?

Meh, I could, but then I'd need to make a new Google Email/Account and still... ok, possibly I might. Don't call me dumb, I just don't really want to make 2 separate accounts to manage.
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Nobody is gonna sub to you.

HAHAHAHA, Well, I feel sorry for this 'Nobody' your talking about. There going to miss out! Still, I've never met anyone called Nobody... you must be pretty lucky.

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You do know you can make ANOTHER YouTube account, right?

Meh, I could, but then I'd need to make a new Google Email/Account and still... ok, possibly I might. Don't call me dumb, I just don't really want to make 2 separate accounts to manage.

You don't have to make a second email. I have two different channels under the same email that I can switch from. I am still going to call you dumb though. Being given options but you're too lazy to actually use what we recommend.

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You do know you can make ANOTHER YouTube account, right?

Meh, I could, but then I'd need to make a new Google Email/Account and still... ok, possibly I might. Don't call me dumb, I just don't really want to make 2 separate accounts to manage.

You don't have to make a second email. I have two different channels under the same email that I can switch from. I am still going to call you dumb though. Being given options but you're too lazy to actually use what we recommend.

mabey hes a noob to youtube.

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You do know you can make ANOTHER YouTube account, right?

Meh, I could, but then I'd need to make a new Google Email/Account and still... ok, possibly I might. Don't call me dumb, I just don't really want to make 2 separate accounts to manage.

You don't have to make a second email. I have two different channels under the same email that I can switch from. I am still going to call you dumb though. Being given options but you're too lazy to actually use what we recommend.

Hey, leave me alone. This is all a first for me, so sure, I'm inexperienced at uploading stuff to one of the most popular sites on the internet. I never knew that you could make a second channel using one EMail, All I know is that you need a Google account in order to comment/post stuff. I assumed that you needed a second Google account to make a second Youtube account. Ether way, if you can make 2 channels with one account, I'd like to know how. This is also off topic, so I'm going to stop talking about this here. PM me if you want.

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^I might play on the weekend if you want.

Oh cool. I'll put my Friend Code in my signature when I get the chance.

Quote: CAV

I mostly play Smash Wii U though I can bust out the 3DS if someone can't play otherwise. It's been a long time since I fought anyone from here outside Brawler, Strider, and sP so if anyone is ever down for a fight I'm down; just send a message or reply here.

It's time I really shook off rust.

I'm gonna second this.

I'm not on here a lot, but I've really only fought Sess, CAV, and LunarDistortion. I'd like to vary my opponent pool so I can get better as Corrin.

For Glory just doesn't get my heart pumping as much as battling someone from here. If I'm not challenged, I won't get any better.

So yeah, PM me if you want my NNID, I only have the Wii U one for now.

On the topic of which version.... I don't own a WiiU, so I only have the 3DS version. I believe I-Brawler, Kardonis, and maybe Sky Airglow once are the only ones I've fought.

i've made an atrocity help

According to the new Famitsu column, Sakurai and the Smash Team have finally officially disbanded.

Quote: Sakurai via Source Gaming Translation

The last two DLC fighters for Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U, Corrin and Bayonetta, are now available. At long last, the development on 'Smash for' has ended!! To all of the staff who were involved in this project, thank you for all your hard work. To all who supported and followed the game and its development, thank you so very much. Personally, I’m happy I can finally take an extended vacation.

Out of respect for Source Gaming, I won't put the full article here. I urge you to read his full speech here as it's a really nice read about Sakurai's thoughts on the series as a whole.

Sakurai seems to be optimistic about the series, so I hope that's a sign that he'll be back for the next game. Regardless of who the next developer is, I think we can all agree that Sakurai deserves a huge break after working hard for about 3 years at this point.

It's a bittersweet thing to see. Sakurai finally gets his vacation and still seems hopeful for the future of the series, and we finally have the complete version of Smash 4 in our hands right now, but this is it for all the speculation, rumors, leaks, etc. that made the long wait so enjoyably interesting. Who knows where the Smash team and Sakurai himself will go on from here. I just thank them for their extremely hard work on this game and the ones before it.

Thanks for allowing me to help make the previous three versions of this topic be the best they can be, it was a lot of fun! Right now the OP is pretty obsolete, but that'll be changing soon.

With 58 characters, 97 Stages, 2 new versions of the game, and a year's worth of DLC, Super Smash Bros for Wii U and 3DS is finally complete.

I'm playing right now if anyone's interested. Wii U version.

Quote: AdamGregory03

I'm playing right now if anyone's interested. Wii U version.

NNID?

Bay in my my opinion is either a bottom high tier or a high mid tier. Her grabs are pretty **** and her grab range is awful. Her moves are very punishable if you miss and requires the player to be accurate. Her combos can be DI'd and she has lots of trouble killing. However her counter is crazy op and seems to be her main kill setup. You can spike with her d-air during Witch Time for a kill at 20% which is insane. Her kill combos can also be easily done but most of them require low percentage. She has lots of trouble getting kills at high percentage as she has no kill setups which most high tier characters have. She's just so weird. :/

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Bay in my my opinion is either a bottom high tier or a high mid tier. Her grabs are pretty **** and her grab range is awful. Her moves are very punishable if you miss and requires the player to be accurate. Her combos can be DI'd and she has lots of trouble killing. However her counter is crazy op and seems to be her main kill setup. You can spike with her d-air during Witch Time for a kill at 20% which is insane. Her kill combos can also be easily done but most of them require low percentage. She has lots of trouble getting kills at high percentage as she has no kill setups which most high tier characters have. She's just so weird. :/

But Witch Time.

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Bay in my my opinion is either a bottom high tier or a high mid tier. Her grabs are pretty **** and her grab range is awful. Her moves are very punishable if you miss and requires the player to be accurate. Her combos can be DI'd and she has lots of trouble killing. However her counter is crazy op and seems to be her main kill setup. You can spike with her d-air during Witch Time for a kill at 20% which is insane. Her kill combos can also be easily done but most of them require low percentage. She has lots of trouble getting kills at high percentage as she has no kill setups which most high tier characters have. She's just so weird. :/

But Witch Time.

It's her only kill set up and you have at least 4 a match.

Well, I finally did it. Heres a video of my best victory versing a Corrin:

I love it just for my killing combo at the end.

Quote: Camo22

Well, I finally did it. Heres a video of my best victory versing a Corrin:

I love it just for my killing combo at the end.

you are one of the best sonics who play this game

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I'm playing right now if anyone's interested. Wii U version.

NNID?

AdamGregory03.

If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.

Quote: MugoUrth

If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.

They ruined the game by adding a character many people wanted?

(and a dragon)

Quote: MugoUrth

If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.

Are you trying to start an argument? That's just so blunt and harsh this time.

I mean seriously, man.

Quote: MugoUrth

If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.

Annnnd..... here we go again.

Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

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Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.

Quote: MugoUrth

Quote: HeyitsHotDog

Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Nights or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.

That was more of a "this character is different despite being similar"

And how does Bayonetta of all characters not have a personality to you like what

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Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.

The problem is that you get so offended over something so small. How is this offensive to you?


You're acting like this is some horrible thing that needs to be stopped.

What's so bad about humans?

I'm a human, your a human, we're all humans.

But Corrin and Bay aren't edgy characters?

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Quote: HeyitsHotDog

Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.

Corrin was added as a marketing ploy for the release of Fates. Not really something everyone is happy about, but it happened and at least he/she isn't completely similar to the others and has some unique fighting styles with dragon form. Sure, I would've preferred other things to him, but it happened.

Bayonetta was the ballot winner. I'm sorry if that offends you, isn't what you wanted, whatever. It is what is and a large majority across the world voted for her. There's no changing this. No matter how much you may hate her, she won. You can't deny that millions of people ALL OVER THE WORLD wanted her and satisfying the majority by adding her was a good move than excluding someone who legitimately won to fulfill some niche role in terms of character style/design.

As for Cloud, people have wanted some Final Fantasy representation for years. As much as you may dislike it, he's pretty much the poster-boy for the franchise. There really couldn't have been a better representative for the franchise as a whole. He was bound to be added eventually, this is just the game to make that dream come true for millions of fans.

These are the last characters. It was said in the direct announcement. It has been said by Sakurai. It is done. There is no changing it.

Quote: MugoUrth

If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.

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Quote: HeyitsHotDog

Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.

I wasn't gonna reply to anything today on the site so I could take a break and focus on my studies, but you pissed me off to the Nth degree, so here we go.

Your ****ty definition of "personality" isn't what personality is. For the last goddamn time, your superficial opinions are just opinions. They aren't some holy truth and you aren't some preacher here to show us the word of the Anthro. If you would have actually PLAYED a single one of the games the characters you're complaining about, you'd see that they do have a personality, and the ones that have the best personalities are those with personal growth like Bayonetta, Snake, and Cloud. I'm not convinced you've played any of the games these characters are from, because, while I try to be open minded to other's ideas and opinions, your idea of what personalities are is just plain wrong.

Let's start with Corrin, my Smash main and a pretty good character. While they (using they because there's male and female options btw) don't grow a lot throughout Fates, but they're still an extremely loving and caring person. Corrin, depending on which version of Fates you play, either stays loyal to the core to the family that raised them, opens up their heart to a new family who loves them just as much, or runs away from the conflict, not wanting to hurt their loved ones. They're absolutely caring, especially with that last option. Now I will say that FE has too many reps in Smash, and as much as I love Lucina, we should take her out since she's a clone. I'd say take out Marth because he isn't interesting at all to me, but he kind of has to stay because he's granddaddy of FE.

Now while I love Street Fighter, I main Ibuki, so I haven't gone through any Ryu storylines personally, but I think I have the gist of his character. Ryu is kind of a strong-but-silent type, but because of his devotion to martial arts and fighting the world's greatest fighters, he maintains a respectful personality. While he trained, he was (and still is) very detached from modern culture, leading to some culture shock. He also is shown to hold the superheroes like Captain America and Spider-Man (two other very good personalities), in high regard. All the characters in Street Fighter are essentially cultural sterotypes, so it makes sense that the main Japanese protagonist would be the ideal martial artist in their eyes. Another level of Ryu though is his darker side, and he has a drive to win that can sometimes put him in a dangerous mindset, one that only his longtime friends like Ken, Gouken, and Rose can pull him out of.

Now those were character personalities that weren't too heavily embedded in their respective games, but now's the time when we get into the games that you obviously haven't played, because these characters have undeniable personality.

Snake has so much personality, but you blow him off for being overly serious. I'm entirely convinced you haven't played any Metal Gear game that has 3D graphics, because the Metal Gear Solid games are mostly about the emotional fallout of these events on the characters around Snake. The best example of him being emotional is in Metal Gear Solid III: Snake Eater, since the main antagonist used to be his trusted mentor, ally, and friend. When The Boss confronts Snake, he's wearing a bandanna that she gave to him, and she makes a comment about how he has an inability to get over the past. This all comes to a tipping point when he has to kill her, something he wanted to avoid, leading to him becoming her successor in a very bittersweet moment. On one hand, he triumphed, and became a leader, but on the other, he just killed the woman who taught him everything. Snake cared for her so much, that he arranged her funeral at Arlington National Cemetary in Virgina, a prestigious cemetery for elite and honorable soldiers, even though she betrayed him. He even puts a lily on her grave and pays his respects by saluting her grave. While the world of war hardened Snake, he's still vulnerable, he's still emotional, and that's something people with personalities have.

I'm still absolutely stunned that you think Bayonetta has no personality. of all the people on this list, she has by far the MOST personality, and the most character growth. Bayonetta is sexual and cocky, that's her thing, but it usually leads her into trouble. Over the course of her two games, she began as an Umbra Witch that didn't really care about anything other than finding out her past, but eventually evolved into someone who would sacrifice everything to protect her loved ones and the world that they live in. While she's still sexual and arrogant, she cares much more about helping people than she initially did. While it's still mostly for her personal gain, she's willing to help those she loves no matter the cost.

Now I agree that a character like Banjo should have gotten in (I would have liked an Inkling, but I'm certain since they're a kid AND a squid, they don't count to you), you are stuck in this ****ty and generally toxic mindset that every character that isn't a cartoon or an animal is a plague to gaming, movies, and basically entertainment in general. It's getting really old. People relate to people because people play video games about people, made by people and for people. I can't help but relate to the struggles of a human character like Cloud more than I do with Donkey Kong. That's just how it is.

Well Mugo I actually see what you mean there. It would have been nice to have another non human character in Smash and I understand your frustration with our last two newcomers. All I wanted was Bomberman and Rayman at least, but I didn't get them and now all I can do is pray for the best for maybe sometime in the near future they will be considered.

Quote: MugoUrth

Quote: HeyitsHotDog

Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.

If you played Final Fantasy VII Cloud is not "edgy and no "personatlity". Same goes for the other "emotionless, overly serious" humans

Quote: MugoUrth

If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.

HAHAHAHAHHHAHA

DLC is optional. Don't buy it if you don't want it. Bye~

Who, in your opinions, is the strongest DLC character? I would say Bayonetta for now.

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Quote: MugoUrth

If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.

HAHAHAHAHHHAHA

DLC is optional. Don't buy it if you don't want it. Bye~

Who, in your opinions, is the strongest DLC character? I would say Bayonetta, but I only own Mewtwo and Lucas.

I think Corrin is the strongest for me personally (they're my main, what can I say? ), but I feel like Bayonetta is gonna be higher in tiers.

Quote: MugoUrth

Quote: HeyitsHotDog

Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.

I can agree with you with the fact that I was disappointed with the DLC Lineup. I couldn't care less that Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta, and Corrin are in Smash. I prefer characters like the Inklings, K. Rool, Ridley, Bandanna Dee, Rayman, Wolf, etc. compared to them. So even though the veterans are great to see back, I wasn't all too pleased with the choices for newcomers. I've said this many times before and still stand by it.

But DLC is just that, Downloadable Content. It's not mandatory. If you don't like Roy or Ryu but want Lucas back, you can skip over them and buy Lucas alone. If you don't like any DLC, don't spend money on it. If you do, it's an option. It's not shoved in your face, you don't have to spend extra money on the characters you hate.

I understand being disappointed with DLC, but selling the game away solely on the fact that the optional content isn't to your tastes is where it gets to the breaking point. If you don't like the game overall, I can understand and by all means get your money back. No one can or should get in your way if that's your reasoning behind it. It just seems petty to do it otherwise however.

I can't change your opinions though. I just suggest that you be less all over the place with the swearing than you have been.

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Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.

Yup, trying to start a fight again, you are.
Also, Corrin is not a human, they are half-manaketes iirc.

Quote: MugoUrth

Quote: HeyitsHotDog

Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?

Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.

first off i'm just going to repost the same argument i made last time regarding both the whole "personality thing" and Bayonetta because not only do I basically have to repeat myself but you still keep countering these arguments with what can be summed up as "No, you're wrong, i'm right"

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Once again, what you define as good characterization and what you define as bland isn't fact. it can be argued against, as people have over and over again. There isn't anything that specifically defines good or bad characterization other than what you as an individual find is good or bad. You can't just go around stating that what you perceive as good or bad in anything is fact. That's not how critiquing works.

And once again, "bland, uninspired, overly generic personality" DOES NOT EQUAL no personality. by definition, that is a personality. It may be one you find bland, but it's a personality nonetheless. Personality is what makes a character a character, not every single character has to be completely different from one another.

and since you used the example and since this is a character I definitely know, let me use Bayonetta as an example. Bayonetta, throughout the first game of her series, is a character who is impatient, quick, and playful, to put it simply. Numerous times throughout the game, she interrupts angels telling her about the lore of the world she's in, as she isn't the type of character that cares about any of that stuff. she acts playful and absolutely ridiculous when she fights and talks with other characters, such as the numerous times she messes with Luka, or when she threw a gasoline truck at one of the bosses. She initially works alone and doesn't care much for others, but that changes, such as when she meets Cereza. Beforehand, she didn't care for children, and now, she ends up caring deeply for Cereza.

THIS is what personality is. it's a combination of the traits, emotions, and flaws that make up a character. Having no personality would imply they NEVER show emotion or the like. they would basically be a blank slate(which we already have existing characters of before, such as Link, but even that's arguable since Link has made facial expressions and grunting noises numerous times depending on his situations).

Now it may be one that you don't like, and that's perfectly fine. I don't really care if people dislike Bayonetta, or really anything in general I like. that's their opinion. but that doesn't mean their opinions are fact because they view something differently.

And that's the problem, I'll say again, every single time this argument comes up. You act like what you define as good character is how everyone should define good character. that's why people get so frustrated with you, and it's why people constantly troll you(which i don't agree with, by the way).

If you simply said, "I don't really think Snake is a good character. I find him really bland, and I don't like his serious personality" then there would be no problem. But the way you word it is "Snake IS bland, has no personality, and is not a good character whatsoever, that's a fact." And it's this that people get ticked with.

second off, if you're really going to sell your game over something as trivial as DLC characters you don't like then that's honestly just immature. If you don't like Bayonetta and Corrin, then don't buy them. Corrin was put into the game to basically market Fire Emblem Fates, and whether you like it or not, Bayonetta got in because she was the winner of the ballot.

third, you know very well this is going to start another argument/fight(and since everyone else has responded to this i already know it has). every single time you throw these tantrums about video game characters you don't like it starts arguments. Because every single time you trash the characters you're talking about, you trash anyone who doesn't like them, and you don't stop with the swearing and trash-talking about both the characters and people that like them.

We get it. You don't like characters who tend to take themselves seriously. But they still define as having a personality. Whether you like it or not.

Just PLEASE stop bringing this up over and over again. Everyone is tired of hearing you rant about this stuff over and over again, tired of you bringing it up in topics and subjects that have nothing to do with what's being discussed, tired of you constantly treating your opinions as fact, and tired of your constant tantrums and swearing over something as trivial as fictional characters in a fighting video game.

Well... I guess my two scents aren't really required here. But, Mugo, I will say this: What is selling your copy of the game really going to do? I mean, if you already bought the game, you already gave Nintendo your money for it, it's not like selling it on eBay is going to get you that money back. It'll just give you someone else's money.

I mean, if you really don't like Bayonetta and Corrin, then like others have already said, just don't buy them. ...Unless you already did, in which case you most likely just bought them to complain about them. Which gave Nintendo more money. Meaning all you've really done is kicked yourself in the rear.

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If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.

Stop ****ing baiting