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I dont understand, that malefor wants cynder and spyro dead, right, and at the start of the game, the minions go to where cynder, sparx and spyro had locked themselves in a crystal. The minions smash the crystal, spyro and cynder are fainted, why could have they have not killed spyro and cynder on the spot?

ha ha ha major plothole

It's basically just another giant plothole. That and Malefor is quite possibly the dumbest, worst villain of all time.

Another one of the major plotholes in DotD.

Or just a cliche, like how in movies the villian talks instead of shooting the hero and then the hero ends up winning because the villian was too stupid to take the shot and instead let the hero find a way out.

I just think the grublins look unintelligent, or tribal. They were trying to feed the Golem, I know that much.

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I just think the grublins look unintelligent, or tribal. They were trying to feed the Golem, I know that much.

Yes, but Malefor orders them around. Therefore, they weren't killed, by Malefor's orders.

Before I got to the end of the game, I was assuming that Malefor was still half a spirit and he needed a body (probably Spyro's) to possess. Given what we learned in TEN, that would have made a lot more sense than what we got in DotD.

Well I know he wanted to get Spyro on his side. Don't know why though.
He wanted Cynder too, but I think I know why.

I think he wanted Spyro on his side because he was also a purple dragon. The power of two purple dragons is enough to conquer the world with ease.

Either that or Malefor just wants two pets.

Malefor's motivations in DotD were really unclear. I never understood his goals (though at that point I was still wondering where the heck he'd suddenly got a body).

I kinda did, but at the same time I wondered how/why he would constantly screw them up.

PLOTHOLES.

It would of been alright if they followed the example Eggman set in Sonic Unleashed!

Maybe he wanted to do it himself like in Harry Potter how Voldemort wants everyone to hurt Harry, but he wants to kill him himself

Massive bump...

Quote: Razz

Before I got to the end of the game, I was assuming that Malefor was still half a spirit and he needed a body (probably Spyro's) to possess. Given what we learned in TEN, that would have made a lot more sense than what we got in DotD.

That might explain the concept art with the Spyro "Shadow".

Voldemort wanted to kill Harry himself only up to book 4 because he needed his blood. After that he really didn't care how Harry died so long as he did.

What concept art is this now? I don't think I've ever seen it.

http://www.yannickcorboz.com/w...09/Spyro_01.jpg
And to a lesser extent: http://www.yannickcorboz.com/w...09/Spyro_02.jpg

Oooh, I forgot about those! Jeeze, DotD was going to be so good. What happened? D:

Krome was kicked out is what happened. D:

Nope, what happened was that the stupid money hungry publishers decided it would be just awesome if they rushed a potentially huge game out.

That too.

And Pizza Party is what happened.

And somehow, I'd still give it 9/10....and managed to clock over 100 hours into it......

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Voldemort wanted to kill Harry himself only up to book 4 because he needed his blood. After that he really didn't care how Harry died so long as he did.

I recall it being that Voldemort wanted to kill Harry himself.

I'm currently re-reading the series, so I'll let you know when I get to book 7. I remember in book 4, though, he really didn't care after he got the blood but he wanted to kill Harry then for the lulz.

I finished book 7 last November, just before seeing the film. And I remember giving orders for nobody to kill him, but instead to bring him to him to he can kill Harry himself.

I don't plan to re-read the series, yet. I want to finish Narnia (currently on book 4), and re-read A Series of Unfortunate Events (I love those books).

I dunno about this. I think that he wanted Spyro and Cynder to either convince to go on his side, and if not, kill them. Either he was WAY too lazy to go to the crystal, or this was just to make the game longer. I'm not sure, though. He could also have just sent the golem to get them, and bring them back, too.

If Malefor was reasonable though, the game wouldn't be any fun D:

^ True D:

I daresay that's not true at all. Malefor being an idiot is a large part of what ruined the game completely in my book. They could have kept all of the exact same gameplay features and given him a real reason to want Spyro and Cynder to come to him (see my dead theory that he needed to posses Spyro's body in order to live again).

I was actually kidding when I said that, I don't know if I made it clear or not

But that is true. I honestly think if they had taken the time, they would have included reasons to make it more.. well, reasonable. But the way the game was finished, they didn't.

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I daresay that's not true at all. Malefor being an idiot is a large part of what ruined the game completely in my book. They could have kept all of the exact same gameplay features and given him a real reason to want Spyro and Cynder to come to him (see my dead theory that he needed to posses Spyro's body in order to live again).

Yeah,I mean it would make more sense if Spyro had to be sacrificed for him to ressurect the destroyer or something =/ plus that would cover up the plothole of ''why didn't malefor just release the destroyer 3 years ago/during that period''

They could of just made it that Malefor has some sort of magic artifact that he needs to awaken the Destroyer, and it takes time to activate, and the good guys have to get it off of him. Cliché, I know, but....who cares!?

It's not any less cliche than the "story" we got and it would have done a lot to improve things. At least then he'd have an actual reason for doing what he was doing.

In the end, the whole thing is plothole ridden, and there's nothing that can or could've been fixed unless Krome had made the game.

I don't think Krome's absence was the huge problem, but it would of been less likely if they did make it. However, I definitely preferred EL's style for the gameplay.

But for me, I don't get bothered by plotholes that much. I may seem like I do with Sonic 06, but I generally just use plotholes to poke fun at a game. And Sonic 06's glitches are the bigger issue there......(******* MAGNETIC WALLS!!!!)

I would have preferred Krome. Even if the story had stayed as riddle with holes as it is, at least it would have felt more consistent with the previous installments in the trilogy.

I don't really care about consistency, as long as I get a fun game. Just look at the Western Super Mario Bros trilogy.

With Krome, the plotholes wouldn't be there (or at least not that obvious) since it would be the same writers as the first two games.

And I honestly think everyone would've perfered Krome to have made the game. I like DotD the way it is, but we all know Krome would've made it so much better........provided they didn't make it a carbon copy of ANB like they did with TEN.

I don't know....there is one non-Spyro EL game I am mighty interested in, and no non-Spyro Krome games I am interested in.

It's a matter of opinion anyway.

Hate to break it to you, CAV, but the writers for DotD were the same two guys who wrote ANB and TEN: Mike Graham and Chris Wilson. It's likely the massive plot holes would have still been there.

@Brawler Dude. Krome shut down months ago. Of course there aren't any games to look forward to.

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Hate to break it to you, CAV, but the writers for DotD were the same two guys who wrote ANB and TEN: Mike Graham and Chris Wilson. It's likely the massive plot holes would have still been there.

Dammit......

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@Brawler Dude. Krome shut down months ago. Of course there aren't any games to look forward to.

Quote: Razz

Hate to break it to you, CAV, but the writers for DotD were the same two guys who wrote ANB and TEN: Mike Graham and Chris Wilson. It's likely the massive plot holes would have still been there.

Dammit......

I meant past titles. I'm not interested in any on Krome's side, but I am with EL.

I still want to play more Blade Kitten. The demo was super fun.

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I meant past titles. I'm not interested in any on Krome's side, but I am with EL.

I was never interested with either of them. But I do perfer Krome over EL. For one thing, Krome got pretty damn close to making the best movie tie-in of all time. If only it was so damn short....

I was never interested in Krome but I always loved them.
R.I.P. Krome.

And despite all EL have done I dislike, I don't hate them for it. I have no clue why. Do something bad, EL! Make more cheaply edited rehashes so I can truly hate you!

You love Krome, yet you weren't inteserested. That doesn't make sense.

You know, I sometimes thought that Cynder was in on it the whole time. You never see Cynder being shackled when Spyro is, and Cynder is already awake when they are in the crypt. Another example of how Cynder could still be evil.

I wouldn't call it a major plothole. Just a cliche of a execution gone wrong. Like these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYMxgNKIEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw

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You know, I sometimes thought that Cynder was in on it the whole time. You never see Cynder being shackled when Spyro is, and Cynder is already awake when they are in the crypt. Another example of how Cynder could still be evil.

I wouldn't call it a major plothole. Just a cliche of a execution gone wrong. Like these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYMxgNKIEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw

I think that was done intentionally to keep us suspicious. Remember how they kept calling her "Spyro's former nemesis" on all the promotions for the game(even though that was two games ago....aherm....). I was suspicious on my first playthrough anyway. But the ending pretty much wiped out all my suspicions.

She's my favourite character, yet I couldn't trust her!
I'm sowwy Cyndi!

Alas, both of the things you linked RiverHippo are examples of parody. It's okay for them to do that because they're making fun of it. DotD was playing this trope straight, which makes Malefor impossible to take seriously even though we're supposed to.