darkSpyro

{Sorry if this has been done before, if it has then I didn't know about it}

What did you think when you heard these two references in this video game?

- Hunter
-The Valley of Avalar

I thought it was really strange how they referenced the original games, Avalar from Spyro 2, and Hunter is basically from the original series (apart from the first video game). At first, I thought the Valley of Avalar was going to be a re-designed level from the original Spyro 2, but in the end, I just thought it was because of the fact that it was Spyro's tenth anniversary.

So, what did you think?

That's probably why they did it. For his 10th anniverary. There are a couple of references throughout the LoS trilogy.

Are there any other references apart from the two I have mentioned?

Throughout the whole Legend series, there's the one in TEN when Spyro and Sparx are in the Ancient Grove and Sparx begins eating butterflies.

Honestly I thought I heard it wrong until I put the subtitles on Other than that I was paralyzed when I heard it. I somehow came 2 think that they were going 2 be remakes which basically they were.

Remakes? What were remakes?

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Honestly I thought I heard it wrong until I put the subtitles on Other than that I was paralyzed when I heard it. I somehow came 2 think that they were going 2 be remakes which basically they were.

Are you talking about Avalar?

Yes, they had Avalar and Hunter back. ^.^

Notice the moles as well. There where numbers of moles in the classic Spyro games. The Professor, Blink, and all those moles you had to squish/bomb on Sgt. Byrd's level. And the trilogy still had gems and all. Just a different way of using them.

I also noticed some cocky-ness in the LoS Spyro, just like the Old Spyro had.

Yeah, well, at least ANB Spyro, he was quite cocky.

I don't remember Spyro being cocky in the Legend series.

I always thought that Malefor's Lair was a refrence towards Gnasty's Loot... a bit unlikely but still.

I also thought that the Grublins were a refrence to the Gnorcs... for soem reason

What about all those switch character quotes in DotD? Also, in TEN, after the 1st fight with Skabb, Spyro had no real reason to chase him. He could of just flown off. Instead he decided to chase Skabb during flight and subsequently fought him.

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I don't remember Spyro being cocky in the Legend series.

Really? Most of the dialogue is said through the gameplay, mostly between Spyro and Sparx in a brotherly manner in ANB.

Spyro to Sparx about him having weight issues, "Weight issues huh? Well at least I didn't get turned into a lantern."

Spyro to Sparx when the dragonfly shows Spyro the catapult at Dante's Freezer, "Heh heh, I knew I brought you along for a reason."

Spyro to Sparx after taking down the blockade with the catapult, "That was a good idea. Glad I thought of it." When it was really Sparx who thought of the idea. :3

Lol, I never played ANB. Now I want it even more! Just goes to show how diverse and balanced a character LoS Spyro is.

You haven't? You really should! It has the most humor out of all three Legend games, I love it. And yeah, Aura gave some good examples of what I was talking about

Meh. Nothing is similar about them except their name. The rest is all different.

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I don't remember Spyro being cocky in the Legend series.

Really? Most of the dialogue is said through the gameplay, mostly between Spyro and Sparx in a brotherly manner in ANB.

Spyro to Sparx about him having weight issues, "Weight issues huh? Well at least I didn't get turned into a lantern."

Spyro to Sparx when the dragonfly shows Spyro the catapult at Dante's Freezer, "Heh heh, I knew I brought you along for a reason."

Spyro to Sparx after taking down the blockade with the catapult, "That was a good idea. Glad I thought of it." When it was really Sparx who thought of the idea. :3

Yeah I remember that now, it was quite funny at the time, but now it just gets on my nerves, lol.

I don't even remember Spyro being cocky in the first place really, not even in the original series, urgh, I don't know, perhaps I just don't pay attention to personalities in characters that much.

At the beginning of ANB Ignitus refers to the Year of the Dragon.

In Spyro 2, was only cocky around Ripto. Although, in DotD, he was occasionally cocky:

"Move it, Cynder!"
"Watch and learn!"
"Try and keep up!"
"I've got 'em!"

Also, in TEN:
"Look out world!"
"Hey Sparx, you can come out now!"
"This one? I was on my own for the last one. AND the one before that!"

Also, in ANB (I watched some videos):
"Bring it!"

Also, he said something about Sparx being a nuisance in the ANB ending, didn't he?

I will probably get ANB via XBLM someday.

I'd hardly call an appearance by Hunter and Avalar a reference, considering how COMPLETELY different they were.
The moles are also totally different.

Also, when did new Spyro show any cockyness? He had a bit of confidence in ANB, but other than that, I saw none or VERY little.
Any cockyness is really 'watered down' but the voice acting of Elijah. His voice is so gentle; there's no attitude, y'know? Also, random phrases spoken when switching characters is nothing compared to all the undeserved guilt he lays on himself. For example, he asks how he could let Malefor get free. YOU WERE TRAPPED! It wasn't your fault; it was either use the crystal or die, then the world REALLY would have been screwed. Not to mention the way he just lies down and wimpers when his friend is under someone elses control.
Also, as for only being cocky around Ripto, that's because ripto was his enemy. It seems to me that new Spyro is only 'cocky' (if you can really call it that) to his friends. Old Spyro:Brave in front of enemies; new Spyro:Rude to friends.

Did you not read the "Bring it!" quote towards Cynder?

And Malefor getting freed kind of was his fault. He "carried the flame" remember? It was also Spyro who knocked down the Well of Souls.

Another cocky quote:
"I wouldn't miss it Gaul..."

Also, Spyro probably didn't fight Cynder and Malefor because he knew it would be a losing battle. Also, it was probably a thing of him not wanting to risk killing Cynder, should he defeat her. Chivalry, I guess.

Yeah, it's so chivilrous to not hit a lady; it's SO much better to let her kill you and thus leave the world defenseless.

Also, no, I meant the move it Cynder and stuff like that.

As for destroying the well that was an accident, it's not Spyro's faul he fell in the beam and subsequently went evil, and being forced to use the dark fury. As for carrying the flame, I don't think Spyro had any Idea about that, did he? No, or else he'd have expressed concerns.

Yeah, but he did realise that the events were partly his fault. He's being honest and admitting it.

I was just adding to the list of cocky quotes.

As I said, he would be fighting a losing battle. Did you see how far Cynder knocked him by simply slapping him or hitting him with her tail? Also, Malefor would of stepped in. He was also trying to listen to what Malefor was saying. The "nothing left to fight for" line was probably said because he realised he had actually been leading the world on the path to oblivion, and Cynder was all he had left, but she was turned against him. I think I would be pretty depressed if I had all that happen to me, all at once. And besides, it was just an all around cool scene. It was kind of a torture scene, seeing as he couldn't really fight back.

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I'd hardly call an appearance by Hunter and Avalar a reference, considering how COMPLETELY different they were.
The moles are also totally different.

Also, when did new Spyro show any cockyness? He had a bit of confidence in ANB, but other than that, I saw none or VERY little.
Any cockyness is really 'watered down' but the voice acting of Elijah. His voice is so gentle; there's no attitude, y'know? Also, random phrases spoken when switching characters is nothing compared to all the undeserved guilt he lays on himself. For example, he asks how he could let Malefor get free. YOU WERE TRAPPED! It wasn't your fault; it was either use the crystal or die, then the world REALLY would have been screwed. Not to mention the way he just lies down and wimpers when his friend is under someone elses control.
Also, as for only being cocky around Ripto, that's because ripto was his enemy. It seems to me that new Spyro is only 'cocky' (if you can really call it that) to his friends. Old Spyro:Brave in front of enemies; new Spyro:Rude to friends.

Maybe because you're so used to only one Spyro being cocky that you don't see the light sarcastic personality the new Spyro showed in ANB in your point of view.

I found Spyro to be cocky in ANB and TEN. Sparx even called him cocky in ANB. Let's not turn this into a whole Old Spyro vs. New Spyro again, SpyroLUVA..

Don't forget the dodge-rolling in DotD! StD reference right there.

And the wing shield in DotD too from AHT and ETD.

Now I want to go play TLoS and see if I can find any more references

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I'd hardly call an appearance by Hunter and Avalar a reference, considering how COMPLETELY different they were.
The moles are also totally different.

Also, when did new Spyro show any cockyness? He had a bit of confidence in ANB, but other than that, I saw none or VERY little.
Any cockyness is really 'watered down' but the voice acting of Elijah. His voice is so gentle; there's no attitude, y'know? Also, random phrases spoken when switching characters is nothing compared to all the undeserved guilt he lays on himself. For example, he asks how he could let Malefor get free. YOU WERE TRAPPED! It wasn't your fault; it was either use the crystal or die, then the world REALLY would have been screwed. Not to mention the way he just lies down and wimpers when his friend is under someone elses control.
Also, as for only being cocky around Ripto, that's because ripto was his enemy. It seems to me that new Spyro is only 'cocky' (if you can really call it that) to his friends. Old Spyro:Brave in front of enemies; new Spyro:Rude to friends.

Maybe because you're so used to only one Spyro being cocky that you don't see the light sarcastic personality the new Spyro showed in ANB in your point of view.

Hardly; I've played all the LOS games and he's been the biggest topic of discussion here for years. Beleive me I am perfectly 'used to him'. Aura, why can'y you believe that some of us genuinely and truely DON'T like LOS? Why do you always suggest we're not 'used to it' or 'too used to' the old Spyro, or too immature for the darker combat based style? Plenty of us classic fans/non LOS fans enjoy dark games. I myself am a huge fan of American McGee's Alice. If you don't know it's a twisted version of the classic Alice in Wonderland.
http://www.ea.com/alice
So yeah, not only am I perfectly 'used to' the new Spyro, I enjoy violence, combat and dark non-kiddish themes. Not that LOS isn't kiddish but I think you'll get what I'm saying.

In the Grove in TEN, Sparx eats some butterflys like the fotter in the original games.

I'm with NEW_SpyroLuva on this one, Aura. We don't all hate LoS because it's not the old Spyro. As I've said countless times, I hate LoS for what it is and that has nothing to do with the classic Spyro.

As a matter of fact, I think I've said numerous times that I USED to like new Spyro pre DotD, and that the trilogy had MASSIVE potential, though I still liked old Spyro more.

Yeah I remember that, before all those rowdy arguments back in 2009.

What rowdy arguements exactly? You mean between fans in general or something I did specifically?
Also, I do still say that; about the potential I mean.

I was in that boat, too. It's not LoS I hate (though I can certainly nitpick it into a little pile) but DotD (which had no redeeming qualities and made everything about LoS that was bad even worse).

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What rowdy arguements exactly? You mean between fans in general or something I did specifically?
Also, I do still say that; about the potential I mean.

I mean the arguments you started, about a lot of things related to DotD back in 2009.

I do admit that the LoS had a lot potential, but I don't hate it because of its incomplete status.

I agree too. but if only Krome had finished the game and they took they're time with it.

The merger between Activision and Sierra is to blame as well.

Yeah that may have been a bad move, they should have waited until after the game was finished to merge the companys and not mess up the entire production of the game.

Dropping while flying was used in StD. Only, that was gliding...

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Don't forget the dodge-rolling in DotD! StD reference right there.

more like a copy of the dodge mechanic used in God of War (well pretty much the whole controling system of DoTD is similar/if not almost same
as GoW...)
...
oh look!
jumping in DoTD,that must also be a reference to Spyro 1 !!
maan why didn't I notice this before!!

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What rowdy arguements exactly? You mean between fans in general or something I did specifically?
Also, I do still say that; about the potential I mean.

I mean the arguments you started, about a lot of things related to DotD back in 2009.

I do admit that the LoS had a lot potential, but I don't hate it because of its incomplete status.

I believe I stated opinons and such which were ill recieved by others. They could have left it all alone but of course that's so much harder than continual arguing in a topic you don't like.

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At the beginning of ANB Ignitus refers to the Year of the Dragon.

HOW????

Aura, NewSpyroLuva, do we need to separate you two? I see so many threads that are fine until you guys inevitably butt heads and then the whole thread goes up like the Hindenberg, because you two can't stop picking at each other. Why don't you guys do the sensible thing and just ignore one another for a bit? When apart, you're both pretty reasonable fun people to talk to, but this constant bickering between you two is getting really old.

Ooooo you guys are in trouble...

on topic: Not sure but the portal of convexity could be reference to the portals in the old spyro games.

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Aura, NewSpyroLuva, do we need to separate you two? I see so many threads that are fine until you guys inevitably butt heads and then the whole thread goes up like the Hindenberg, because you two can't stop picking at each other. Why don't you guys do the sensible thing and just ignore one another for a bit? When apart, you're both pretty reasonable fun people to talk to, but this constant bickering between you two is getting really old.

That made me grin for some reason.

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Don't forget the dodge-rolling in DotD! StD reference right there.

more like a copy of the dodge mechanic used in God of War (well pretty much the whole controling system of DoTD is similar/if not almost same
as GoW...)
...
oh look!
jumping in DoTD,that must also be a reference to Spyro 1 !!
maan why didn't I notice this before!!

I won't deny.... That made me laugh

But yeah. I don't think there were any true references or even easter eggs in DotD at all.

Maybe not in DotD, but there definitely were in ANB and TEN.