darkSpyro

I think a lot of people believe Spyro is an American game since Sierra is based in the US, but I don't think that is so. True, Sierra is based in America, but it is nothing more that a branch of Vivendi, which as you all know is In France. Also, Krome studios is an Australian developer, and Estrange Lebellules (sp?) is French.

If anyone has any information which may prove me wrong, please post it here.

Whether it be French or American, it really doesn't make a difference.

It's still being developed by a Western company, not an Eastern one like Nintendo or Konami.

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Whether it be French or American, it really doesn't make a difference.

What do you mean by that?

Quote: BlackDragonAJ89

It's still being developed by a Western company, not an Eastern one like Nintendo or Konami.

What does that matter? Or have to do with the topic?

Generally, the only good games made in the west that are hailed by people as TEH AWESOMENESS are either first-person shooters (with the exception of Rock Band and Ratchet & Clank). The east is just notoriously better at game making.

Nah, not so much as you think. There are some flops in Eastern game making as much as there is in Western game making, but alas, I'm not here to start any wars about game makers (save that for another topic).

But still, whether its Insomniac or Sierra or Krome or Vevindi, it's still rock and roll to me (or Spyro er mmm, I need to quit listening to oldies all the time XP)

^ Sierra and Vivendi are the same thing; Sierra is just a branch of Vivendi.

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Quote: Cloudtail4ever

Whether it be French or American, it really doesn't make a difference.

What do you mean by that?

Nothing, I was just saying it doesn't matter, it's still the same game.

Quote: BlackDragonAJ89

Nah, not so much as you think. There are some flops in Eastern game making as much as there is in Western game making, but alas, I'm not here to start any wars about game makers (save that for another topic).

But still, whether its Insomniac or Sierra or Krome or Vevindi, it's still rock and roll to me (or Spyro er mmm, I need to quit listening to oldies all the time XP)

Rock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all forms of pop music/rap/hip-hop. Just thought I'd throw that out there. >_>

Don't worry HIR, I like rock better than that stuff anyway XP

Besides, I'm mostly instrumental anyway...

Just because one game in the series was made by a French developer doesn't mean the whole franchise is French all of a sudden.

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Just because one game in the series was made by a French developer doesn't mean the whole franchise is French all of a sudden.

This.

french.

French stuff doesn't suck. Though the only problem is communicating with them, unless the staff knows english.

Though I gotta say, Ubisoft is French. Their games were pretty good, too. But still, anything works. Naughty Dog was an American developer.

Western developers I believe were just much better as developers up until the early years of the PS2/X-Box/GCN. Then the only thing "worthwhile" they made were FPS games. There have been a few good western titles though, and some companies like Insomniac and Ubisoft still know how to make great games. <.<;

Still, I've always wanted to try Eastern Japanese titles. Weew.

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Just because one game in the series was made by a French developer doesn't mean the whole franchise is French all of a sudden.

I didn't say it was suddenly French. I think the whole LOS series is French. Read my first post to find out why.

That's like saying Crash Bandicoot is French.

Sierra may be a sub-division, but they're American, and they're the publisher so they get all the credit though Krome/ELB did most of the work. Plus, Activision owns them now anyway. <.<;

Quote: HIR

Sierra may be a sub-division, but they're American, and they're the publisher so they get all the credit though Krome/ELB did most of the work. Plus, Activision owns them now anyway. <.<;

Yeah, now. While the LOS series was being made, it was owned by a French company. Also, there was a merger between Activision and Sierra; Activision didn't buy Sierra. (did they?)

There was an article of it here. Still, if you're not sure which companies are French or American, Wikipedia it up.

Even though Etranges Libellules is a French company, it doesn't really change the fact that it's a game. So what if it's made by the French? Think about Capcom, Sega, Nintendo, those are all Japanese companies, but they have exported their Japanese games for international releases and sales.

Of course it doesn't change the fact that it's a game! And I don't care if it's French; I'm not prejudiced. I just wanted to know what people think of it. Personally, I think it's French.

(Edit): I already know the difference between Developers and publishers. I just want to know who thinks that the country of the publisher decides the country of the game, or if that of the developer does. Does that make sense to you all?

The reason I think it's French, as I said in the first post, is because EL is a French company and they MADE the game! Also, Sierra, which is just a publisher, though based in the US, is owned by a French company.

NOTE: There was a MERGER between Activision and Sierra; Vivendi is still the owner of Sierra.

P.S. As for default language, I don't think it has anything to do with the country in which the game was published or made. I think they default the language to that of the main language of the country to which a particular shipment of the game is going. Make sense?

Still, it was made by Western developers, which doesn't matter if it's English, French, German, or Italian, its still being made by Western companies. Not that it's any better than Eastern games, it's just that there are recognizable differences between the two.

I don't care about Eastern/Western developers! That's not what this topic is about.

Fine. Spyro's American because he STARTED American with Insomniac Games.

Would you call Mega Man American if Capcom decided to pull a SEGA and split into a Japan and an American office, and the AMERICAN office produced Mega Man 10? No, he's still Japanese. Case in point, Spyro started in America, he's American. >_>

HIR ripped the words out of my mouth...

HEY THAT HURT YOU KNOW!!! XP

Who really cares both sides make great games.


Halo on one side

Mario on the other

Quote: HIR

Fine. Spyro's American because he STARTED American with Insomniac Games.

Would you call Mega Man American if Capcom decided to pull a SEGA and split into a Japan and an American office, and the AMERICAN office produced Mega Man 10? No, he's still Japanese. Case in point, Spyro started in America, he's American.

Good point but I'm talking about the LOS series.

In that case, it would be whoever wrote the Legend series. It should be obvious.

This is an interesting theory, but I'm not sure it really makes that much of a difference.

We may as well have an American company such as Naughty Dog develop a new game, only to release it in Spanish. Now does that make the game a Spanish game or an American game? Think.

American; it was made by an American game.
Read post#22; I talked about the language of the game at the end of the comment.

Ubisoft, which is a French company, published Brothers in Arms, which was made by Gearbox Software, an American Video Game Developer. Does that make it American or French? My publisher could very well be Capcom, since it could sell my games in Japan or Internationally.

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Fine. Spyro's American because he STARTED American with Insomniac Games.

i read somewhere on this site that the first spyro game was made in europe.

Nnooo... Insomniac is AMERICAN.

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Quote: HIR

Fine. Spyro's American because he STARTED American with Insomniac Games.

i read somewhere on this site that the first spyro game was made in europe.

bionicle2809 told me this.

He lied.

Yeah, trust some random guy with Bionicle in his name.

The fact is, only ONE game in the Legend of Spyro series was developed in France. That doesn't make the whole LOS series French as the first two were developed by an Australian team (apparently).
This thread was nonsensical to begin with, no offense but I rather give people the straight truth than lie to them just to be nice.

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Actualy I discovered that the first 3 Spyro games came out in Europe beofre America because they were made in Europe because they were only on the PS1 which is European. So basicly the thing about getting it forst because it was made there is true, but its still realy unfare! (One thing that was strange was that Spore was released in the UK before the US?)

quoted because it is true.

You don't get it. Just because one guy says something doesn't mean it automatically becomes a solid fact. What Bionicle said is a lie.
The first three Spyro games came out in America FIRST. They were made in America. You're obviously pulling this info out of your ass, because it's false.

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Ubisoft, which is a French company, published Brothers in Arms, which was made by Gearbox Software, an American Video Game Developer. Does that make it American or French? My publisher could very well be Capcom, since it could sell my games in Japan or Internationally.

The game is American, it was made by Americans.


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Quote: HIR
Fine. Spyro's American because he STARTED American with Insomniac Games.


i read somewhere on this site that the first spyro game was made in europe.

Yeah, I heard that Insomniac is a British company, or so my dad said. Is it possible that Insomniac started as a British company and was british when Spyro began and later sold out to an American buyer?

i think you are right spyro luva.

Again don't go by what one person says, Insomniac has always been based in the US.

Quote: dingodile555

Again don't go by what one person says, Insomniac has always been based in the US.

two people are saying this now.

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Quote: bionicle2809

Actualy I discovered that the first 3 Spyro games came out in Europe beofre America because they were made in Europe because they were only on the PS1 which is European. So basicly the thing about getting it forst because it was made there is true, but its still realy unfare! (One thing that was strange was that Spore was released in the UK before the US?)

quoted because it is true.

The Sony PlayStation One is a JAPANESE system developed by Sony Interactive Software in JAPAN, thus not making it European. >_> AND, if the OFFICIAL release dates for Spyro one are as follows:

North American: 09/10/1998
PAL/EU: 10/23/1998

Notice how the PAL version came out a month later. <.>

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Yeah, I heard that Insomniac is a British company, or so my dad said. Is it possible that Insomniac started as a British company and was british when Spyro began and later sold out to an American buyer?

Umm, no. Insomniac Games is located in California, which is in America. Universal Studios was the publisher of the first 3 games and is American, that means Spyro is American. And the Spyro games came out in America first and then Europe.

Europe got DOTD after we've had here in the US for about 2 months' time.

Japan doesn't care for Spyro so it probably doesn't get shipped there, but I could be wrong.

Therefore, it's an American franchise. World partners working together to build it? Probably... This game probably has some Localization to go through before it can be released elsewhere.

Quote: NEW_SpyroLUVA

Yeah, I heard that Insomniac is a British company, or so my dad said. Is it possible that Insomniac started as a British company and was british when Spyro began and later sold out to an American buyer?

Wrong. Ted Price, the President of Insomniac is America. When they made Spyro, they were in a block in Universal Interactive studious, next to Naughty Dog. That place is set in America. So both are American.

Now, all because a game was made by a French company does not make it a French series (if applicable). You can call this Crash game a Japanese game, but the series is still American.

Hell, even this applies to Animes. Naruto was a Japanese Anime, but it was licensed and dubbed for release internationally.

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Europe got DOTD after we've had here in the US for about 2 months' time.

that is because the game makers were selfish.

Who freaking cares, it is awesome either way!