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*Cough,Cough* Wii players.

Although the prices for LD packs are insane, they brought the most innovation to the TtL genre. I would get this game, but I can't.

I can't speak for 3.0 (I think it's boring and uninteresting, but that's because I'm not that into Star Wars and 2.0 was awful), but the pricing for Dimensions, coupled with the fact that they are holding back information while they should be open as this is their first year is holding them back. SuperCharges looks awesome, but expensive.

Amiibo for the win!!!

(That'll never happen, but we can always dream. )

Lol.

Disney Infinity brings nothing new to the table except Star Wars, more Marvel/Disney characters as expected, and improved fighting mechanics.
Even if the new mechanics are good, it's not nearly innovative to keep up with Skylanders, much less Lego Dimensions.

Lego Dimensions is the only competition Skylanders has,
Tbh LD doesn't need to bring anything new to have a successful game, they're LEGO and they already have a "fanbase" of kids that will buy the game no matter what.
Even though it's LEGO's first Toys-To-Life game, it's much more unique and innovative than any of it's competitors.

I don't get why people say DI will sell better than Skylanders, it hasn't gotten close in any previous years, I see no reason why it would this year,

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Lol.

Disney Infinity brings nothing new to the table except Star Wars, more Marvel/Disney characters as expected, and improved fighting mechanics.
Even if the new mechanics are good, it's not nearly innovative to keep up with Skylanders, much less Lego Dimensions.

Lego Dimensions is the only competition Skylanders has,
Tbh LD doesn't need to bring anything new to have a successful game, they're LEGO and they already have a "fanbase" of kids that will buy the game no matter what.
Even though it's LEGO's first Toys-To-Life game, it's much more unique and innovative than any of it's competitors.

I don't get why people say DI will sell better than Skylanders, it hasn't gotten close in any previous years, I see no reason why it would this year,

because star wars. that's all that needs to be said about infinity and it will sell, but judging all the packs that so far are hitting lego's first wave is a pretty strong lineup. they have tons of franchises that are worthwhile to play. Back to the future, portal, lego chima, lego ninjago, simpsons...the list goes on and on. all of those i listed are in wave 1. the fact its the lego series which did well in some of the movies they already tackled in having plenty of series in their game section, it'd be a no brainer that lego just might be top dog this year.

while skylanders may have the quality upper hand in the diversity of their line and what they are doing with originality (not using other established franchises besides their own) they are going to have a tough time selling a point of 30 + for a figure and vehicle. most parents may enjoy the size of lego that despite the price tag, is nowhere near the size of using skylanders.

Skylanders will always win because of the creativity of the characters
DI and LD just used pre exisiting characters and make them into toys

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Skylanders will always win because of the creativity of the characters
DI and LD just used pre exisiting characters and make them into toys

Yeah because a another Gill Grunt is original! /sarcasm

So true, Sleepy. Not only Gill Grunt, but these as well: Pop Fizz, Trigger Happy, Stealth Elf, Terrafin and Jet-Vac.
That's a quarter of the overall figures that are overdone returning figures. This will be Gill Grunt's 5th appearance, 4th for the others (not counting minis).
There are 300+ figures. But I'm surprised, as well impressed, by who's going to be the new EE. A -$5 from what GameStp had charged isn't much and I'm sure they'll (TRU) will end up with a ton of them (maybe) by the time SSC is finished......but then again, they might sell them all.

I'm a LEGO fan, but Dimensions just doesn't resonate with me at all. I have no plans whatsoever to get any of it.

I was disappointed in I2.0, but I'm keeping an open mind for 3.0 and getting the Rebels characters if for no other reason than because I enjoy that show. I'll get the starter pack and judge the play set. If it's acceptable, I'll get the other Star Wars play sets. If it's limp like 2.0's Avengers play set, then that'll be it.

As for SSC, my wife and I already listed everything we plan on getting. It's probably 1/2 to 2/3 of the figures and vehicles.

I love skylanders but I to feel they will lose out this year.
Reasons:
1. Half the roster is reposes. This was ok in giants because it was fairly new in all but there now on there fith game and have the imagination to make new characthers. As someone else said on a difrent thread skylanders 6 will be attack of the Gill Grunts.

2. Fanbase! I'm a disney fan and go to the parks all the time. This year I happened to go during Star Wars weekend were they had DI3.0 out where you could test play. It was by the exit where American idol used to be and the line warped all around the building to the abc comintariy, for those who haven't been there that's a long line. Star Wars fans are kind of crazy and if people are waiting to play a littile bit of a game in that long of a line. Then yeah I think Star Wars sales will be good. They also are brining the inside out characters to the game. From what I can tell this is like pixars frozen. Everybody loves that move. This will probably also boast sales. And speeking of frozen there finaly adding olaf to the game so yeah. I'm not saying the actual game will be sold a lot but the figures will be.

3. Family/kid audiences. Lego has had this covered with all there games. When family's are thinking about a family frendly game for everyone they go with either lego or Nintendo. I haven't done that much looking into either amibos or the lego game but I think lego will cover the family's that only get one game to play together do to how there franchises have been focused on kids and familey a lot longer than skylanders.

4. They don't sell there own merchandise. Disney, lego, and Nintendo all have there own sites where you can by there stuff. Skylanders dosent. You have to go and hunt for all the skylanders and if you can't find them you have to turn to online. I could never find punck shock or echo in any store so I look on line and the cheapest is 20$. Yeah no. They really need to have an online store that sells them at stable prices.

I could be wrong. But this year it will be close.

1 - They aren't reposes, they are re-imagined figures. There may be a lot of customers who don't realize that, but I don't know that that will hurt sales all that much.

2 - I'm not convinced that Star Wars is going to draw in all that many fans. There are a ton of star wars products out there, so if the game isn't that good, I'm not sure it's going to be that big of a pull. The same goes for all the other franchises that are in this one. It's a plus, for sure, but that can't really be all that the game is about.

3 - I do think LD will be stiff competition, for this year at least.

4 - I don't think that statement is accurate. I just checked disney online and they are selling Infinity, but they don't have a very good selection. TRU has better then them. I'm sure it will have the full lineup at release, but so will every other store. I can't see that as advantage. Lego didn't have LD up for pre-order. They probably will, and they may end up having the best stock....because lego stock often isn't all that good from what I've seen. Nintendo wasn't selling amiibos online. And honestly, having your own online site isn't really that different that buying it online from Amazon and other online retailers. I really can't see how this is a big advantage.

Honestly I do fear (even if that's not the correct word... "hope" is more likely) a lot of parents will look at Super Shot Stealth Elf or Deep Dive Gill Grunt and simply say "oh, we already have 3 fish-guys and at least 4 forest elves. Better buy this never seen before bird or this cyclops in a diving suit".

Not all the parents are as informed as we are.
They might not know they are "revamps" and not "reposes" and even if they will they might not want to buy the same character again just because they are still Eruptor, Gill Grunt, Stealth Elf and so on.

Doubt it will influence sales that much (especially due to Combo Packs) but hopefully it will be enough of a disaster to make them re-think this re-thought idea and come up with more never seen before Skylanders next year.

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They aren't reposes, they are re-imagined figures. There may be a lot of customers who don't realize that, but I don't know that that will hurt sales all that much.

Strictly speaking, the revamps are still reposes. They're not Lightcore or Series+ (nor Minis or Wave 2 Elites), but still reposes. Some people (like me) may want to get the revamps due to the changed move set, but others (like Drek) don't care, since it's still the same character as before.

As Nightmoon said they aren't S4/5 but they are reposes because they are different toys of characters we already had.

Exactly like this year's Eon's Elite aren't simple repaints of SA/Giants figures but they have been slightly reposed.
Even if they don't have a single new move they are still reposes.
Even Lightcores are.

badwolfmichael I only made this account to confront your thoughts
what exactly is innovative about superchargers vehicles that's it and infinity has done that since day one
we do not know enough about Lego dimensions to call it innovative
I believe infinity 1.0 beat swap force and 2.0 beat trap team in sales so I don't know where your getting info from
skylanders needs to go open world and compete with practically any other game on the market
up here in Canada superchargers is 90 dollars for the starter pack which includes only three characters (2 figs, 1 vehicle)
infinity 3.0 is 65 dollars for 2 characters and practilly a whole entire openworld game
lego is 110 but that is way to outrageous to consider
the dark is 130 dollars so in order to collect every thing in canada is already 660 dollars just in starters
Disney infinity is simply 65 dollars and then you buy everything separate
I will buy simplay a digital download of 3.0 for 30 dolllars and buy whatever figures I want
sorry for the rant but I needed to get it out

Benbot, just saying, but the statement that DI 1.0 and it's figures sold more than Skylanders is just incorrect. If I wanted to, I could've purchased EVERY single Infinity figure when they all came out due to them completely warming the shelves and being covered in layers of dust.

Plus, in the review stage, DI 1.0 and 2.0 were given awful reviews, just like several other recent Disney games.

Where do you see awful reviews for infinity
Ign gave 1.0 8.7 and 2.0 6.8 (6.8 maybe bad but i agree 1.0 was much better than 2.0)
You can find infinity figures because they are smart and make their figures available to everyone
Skylanders in canada are extremely difficult to find even simple regular characters
Infinity pleases their fans skylanders doesn't i saw many people even on this forum just simply say they are done
Half the stuff for both these games are leaked infinity quickly approaches these leaks and announces the characters while skylanders just lets them sit there

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You can find infinity figures because they are smart and make their figures available to everyone
Skylanders in canada are extremely difficult to find even simple regular characters

The argument could be made that the reason you can find DI is because it does NOT sell very well. Whereas, Skylanders are difficult to find because people have been buying them up. I doubt any of the TtL makers want to see their product languishing on store shelves gathering dust, especially this late in a release cycle. And, in the US, I can go in stores (specifically TRU) and find PLENTY of DI 2.0. Not necessarily a good thing.

You all have clever points but i do not want to play a overpriced game that has stayed the same for 5 years except a couple graphical changes and boring gimmicks. Skylanders does not innovate even close to how much as its competion they still cant ditch the wii

We can all like what we prefer but I sincerely doubt Disney Infinity even tried to innovate itself as much as Skylanders did.

Adding new franchises is not innovation.
It's... I don't know, expanding the game universe.
Nothing remotely innovative.
Don't get me wrong, I know they did innovated certain features but they apparently like to call DI 3.0 new and fresh because Star Wars and that doesn't work.

Amiibos innovated?
Really?

Sometimes I like the gimmicks (Trap Team) and sometimes not that much (SuperChargers) but at least Skylanders tries to shake things up.

Infinity has alot of innovations for those who actually give the game a chance and explore the toy box; you can ride vehicles and use weapons with simple in game purchases, you can chose who you fight, and make your own story. In skylanders vehicles are an extra 15 dollars and are mandatory to complete the story. Charcters are stuck with simple weapons and attacks that some time change look.
Disney infinity has one major thing over skylanders you can be creative

The thing with the Lego game is that it'll play basically like all the others, which you can get cheaper without buying toys to go with it or play as a character.

I don't think the Toy Box mode automatically makes Infinity better than Skylanders.

It's a great feature, which fits perfectly with the theme of the game and I sincerely love editors inside the games (my favorite game is LittleBigPlanet 2).
But it just makes it different, not better in any possible way at least objectively speaking.

Skylanders is a game which relies a lot on the creation and expansion of a fantasy universe with his own lore, legends, stories and characters.
I don't think a Sandbox Mode would work well with that concept.
They could still implement it to let Portal Masters create... Levels (?), tracks and maybe even short missions but I'm sure it wouldn't be the main feature of the game and wouldn't be that deep simply because that is not the focus of the series.

Skylanders first (re)invented the TtL genre, then added big and super powerful titans, the possibility to mix and match the powers of different characters, the possibility to trap a villain inside the game to collect him/her outside it and tag-team with your heroes when needed and now upgreadable and modifiable vehicles.

Infinity kept adding more of the same: new vehicles, new characters, new Power Discs and new Playsets.
New, of course, but absolutely not innovative.

I would love if Skylanders could do the same and simply innovate inside the game instead of coming up with a new gimmick every year but it's probably not going to happen.
Yet they try to innovate.

Amiibos and Infinity are the ones which are giving their customers more of the same.
And again it isn't necessarily a bad thing just a matter of facts.

You are correct but these new "inovations" skylanders has have decreased in appeal the trap team could only break traptanium and enter special gates and super chargers can give mods to their vehicles
It all matters to appeal some kid would rather buy a figure of iron man than this strange fish dude with a gun
I will also repeat this, lego and disney infinity have their levels but you can still explore a rather large hub and have fun. They are open world much like the greatest games that have came out this year once you are done with the story you dont have to quit and wait for a sequel like skylanders

Trap Team Wii vs X360 sales were almost a dead heat, so Wii as a dominant system is fading. It will be interesting to see how this "exclusive" arrangement changes that in SC.

Once you finish the main Story you can always level up your characters.

It's simply a matter of tastes, I prefer to buy a never seen before character rather than a Marvel hero or a Disney character even without knowing anything about the games themselves.

Didn't knew about Infinity's hub but LEGO games aren't TtL titles yet and we still don't know a lot about LEGO Dimensions.
It will most likely have the same structure as all the other LEGO games but i sincerely still don't see any objective innovation (outside of the vehicles which seem to be an amazing feature).
They innovated the LEGO games joining the TtL genre but I will wait to see how they will innovate that very same genre with future games.

@benbot27

If you seriously just made this account to badmouth Skylanders and praise Disney Infinity on a Skylanders forum, I don't know what you're thinking. It is extremely difficult to argue like this on a fan site, and it really isn't worth making an account for.

But anyway, Skylanders and Disney Infinity appeal to different audiences, and should really be compared to unless you're talking sales numbers and the fact their both Toys to Life. But it is known outside of the forums that Skylanders overall gets better scores than Disney Infinity, as well as the fact that Skylanders is more popular than Infinity just from the number of sales and the buzz from it. But, Infinity has an advantage to that so that players can attain almost all of the characters despite how long ago they have released.

I won't post anymore on the subject, but I would advise that unless you are interested in playing or getting Skylanders, or even discussing it in a positive manner, just leave. It isn't worth making an account just to argue about this.

They are different games. Infinity and Skylanders have like no overlap in gameplay, they just have toys in common. It's like saying Minecraft isn't as good as Call of Duty or Madden Football and comparing sales numbers.

Lego is a great new option which adds the highly attractive building of toys, which honestly beats the crap out of little statues that do nothing. The biggest issue all face is the limited pool of parent dollars - but all three can co-exist (Amiibos, too!). Skylanders will be it's own downfall when they reach the point where people get tired of the games, that's why they are going with driving to shake things up and make the game different. It won't die due to another game, people will just decide they are done with it. They seem to get that by making some figure count cutbacks this year.

Infinity has an arguably bigger draw than Marvel this year with Star Wars, especially since it is tying in with a brand new movie (and who isn't excited about that?). They are making some improvements, but there are a ton of people out there that will buy the figures and don't care about the game at all. I like the way they pay attention to the levels people download most - it means they know what people like to do and do not like to do, and many of those things vary widely from what they believed earlier. TfB in particular seems to have major issues figuring out (or just ignoring) what people want. How long did it take to get jumping and they still don't think it should have been added, with Trap Team they went right back to crappy jump pad overuse and a short leash (which is TERRIBLE in two player)?

The best thing about Infinity is they have the figure distribution figured out better than any of the other games, they have release dates so no hunting and of all the toys to life games their figures are the highest quality (the design may not be everyone's cup of tea, but they are very well made). It isn't going to be taking over the market, but it will still sell well.

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@benbot27

If you seriously just made this account to badmouth Skylanders and praise Disney Infinity on a Skylanders forum, I don't know what you're thinking. It is extremely difficult to argue like this on a fan site, and it really isn't worth making an account for.

But anyway, Skylanders and Disney Infinity appeal to different audiences, and should really be compared to unless you're talking sales numbers and the fact their both Toys to Life. But it is known outside of the forums that Skylanders overall gets better scores than Disney Infinity, as well as the fact that Skylanders is more popular than Infinity just from the number of sales and the buzz from it. But, Infinity has an advantage to that so that players can attain almost all of the characters despite how long ago they have released.

I won't post anymore on the subject, but I would advise that unless you are interested in playing or getting Skylanders, or even discussing it in a positive manner, just leave. It isn't worth making an account just to argue about this.

That's a very crappy attitude. I love Skylanders, but I have complaints as well. Just having a view that other games are doing some things better does not make your opinion on Skylanders games unworthy of discussion here.

superchargers will beat disney star wars and lego, like that ever will happen.. lol.

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badwolfmichael I only made this account to confront your thoughts
what exactly is innovative about superchargers vehicles that's it and infinity has done that since day one
we do not know enough about Lego dimensions to call it innovative
I believe infinity 1.0 beat swap force and 2.0 beat trap team in sales so I don't know where your getting info from
skylanders needs to go open world and compete with practically any other game on the market
up here in Canada superchargers is 90 dollars for the starter pack which includes only three characters (2 figs, 1 vehicle)
infinity 3.0 is 65 dollars for 2 characters and practilly a whole entire openworld game
lego is 110 but that is way to outrageous to consider
the dark is 130 dollars so in order to collect every thing in canada is already 660 dollars just in starters
Disney infinity is simply 65 dollars and then you buy everything separate
I will buy simplay a digital download of 3.0 for 30 dolllars and buy whatever figures I want
sorry for the rant but I needed to get it out

Hmmf, interesting comeback, though Skylanders has always had better sales than DI, and while I admit DI had vehicles before Sky5, they serve different purposes, but we'll just have to see what happens~

There are major issues with DI, especially if one doesn't like the sandbox type game.

• First, the characters only work in their own playset. They have added some crossovers in 2.0, but it's two more character per playset.
  
• Leveling-up your figures is useless in 1.0, they indeed improved that in 2.0.
  
• Even though a figure is linked to an account, the levels to not stack from 1.0 to 2.0, unless they were already maxed out before importing in 2.0.
  
• Cars characters are useless in 2.0, they can barely be played at all.
  
• Most characters don,t have a story mode at all.
  
• Barely any replayability.
  

Sure, some Skylanders features are also toned down or absent from game to games, but the figure compatibility is universal, and there is a lot of replayability. Thinking about it, the Skymiibos are still better than the toy box DI figures, even though they are not universal. At least they can participate in the story mode of their own game...

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Leveling-up your figures is useless in 1.0, they indeed improved that in 2.0.

The skill trees are still kind of useless in 2.0 as there is really nothing unique about them All the big characters have pretty much the same tree as do all the melee characters.

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That's a very crappy attitude. I love Skylanders, but I have complaints as well. Just having a view that other games are doing some things better does not make your opinion on Skylanders games unworthy of discussion here.

I think my negative to positive post ratio is 99 to 1.

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Lol.

Disney Infinity brings nothing new to the table except Star Wars, more Marvel/Disney characters as expected, and improved fighting mechanics.
Even if the new mechanics are good, it's not nearly innovative to keep up with Skylanders, much less Lego Dimensions.

Lego Dimensions is the only competition Skylanders has,
Tbh LD doesn't need to bring anything new to have a successful game, they're LEGO and they already have a "fanbase" of kids that will buy the game no matter what.
Even though it's LEGO's first Toys-To-Life game, it's much more unique and innovative than any of it's competitors.

I don't get why people say DI will sell better than Skylanders, it hasn't gotten close in any previous years, I see no reason why it would this year,

I'm a Marvel and a Star Wars fan. I brought DI 2.0 and I thought the game wasn't as satisfactory as I thought it would, and in fact I think Trap Team is a superior game after comparing the two. However, I have to buy 3.0 just because it's Star Wars, and they have hired two different companies to revamp the combat system and the driving mechanics. They also have two playsets which will allow you to use any Infinity figures to play co-op with, which is something they should have done eons ago. I'm not sure 3.0 can win the sales over SC and LD, but I won't count them out just yet. LD looks interesting, but it is priced pretty high compared to other toys-to-life games and even as a Lego enthusiast I don't think I will choose it over SC and 3.0.

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Charcters are stuck with simple weapons and attacks that some time change look.

Sorry, but there is no way that Skylanders can be viewed as having simpler combat mechanics than Disney Infinity. Disney Infinity has notoriously simple combat mechanics to the point that they have been promoting the fact that they went to another company for help with combat during 3.0. So, while the combat mechanics have no doubt improved for the new 3.0 characters, the mechanics for all existing characters is sorely lacking.


With Skylanders the combat mechanics are far more varied and thought out. Each character has their own little gimmick to how they play and none of them feel redundant to one another. I love taking a new Skylander to a battle arena and just trying out what it can do. With Disney Infinity characters, on the other hand, doing that just feels pointless.


And for the record, I really enjoy Disney Infinity (mainly 1.0, since 2.0 was a bit of a misstep if you ask me), but not because of its combat mechanics.

...LD looks horribly boring...I don't see the point.
...Disney blew it with 2.0, they promised big and really delivered an expansion pack to the first game. Expectations for 3.0? 2.0 with more maps...new combat my butt, what I saw didn't look too different than before. Just like 2.0 they have something big to move units, but I've already said that my family is most likely not getting it. I might just buy Hulk Buster and Ultron and let them sit there (no cannoned MArvel pack either to my knowledge).
...Amiibos still suck, they still do nothing, once the big restock happens this fall/winter, I expect their interest levels to plummet

Skylanders? Only thing holding them back is their refusal to stop reposing the same friggin characters, I understand a couple, but half? Add clothes change movesets, when I look at the toys, it is STILL Pop Fizz...
- Unreall

Yeah, and Disney Infinity, for at least what I know, never got players excited with it because you BUY the levels. I mean, what fun is that? At least with Skylanders u can complete the game with the starter pack, just not 100%. That is what Disney Infinity and Lego Dimensions are lacking. You can't even play the game if you don't go out and buy levels. Also, Disney Infinity may have came up with vehicles first, but they were only little discs that just showed a bad pic of a car. With LD, they are extremely tiny, and not fun to play with. My little brother and his friends are already building racetracks for their supercharger vehicles. I think that means something, it's like hot wheels. So yeah, I do think Superchargers does have a chance.

I think what DI and skylanders lack is that with LD they released what the people want, my dad wasn't into the toys to life games but when he saw the back to the future expansions, he was more interested in Lego dimensions than he was before. Also lego is nostalgic for most adults. Imagine if the toy you grew up with had the characters that you grew up with, and it was a video game all in the same bundle. Also with a single pack you get 3 different models/modes that you can play out of the one vehicle. I was hyped for portal when I found out it was going to be in LD and my friends are happy for the Dr. Who expansions. Lastly the game is over the internet, so whenever they release a new expansion, you don't need a new game, all ou need to do is download a patch. While I probably will be picking up LD and SSC, I have to say that LD may be my preferred TTL game this year. Sorry Skylanders

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I think what DI and skylanders lack is that with LD they released what the people want, my dad wasn't into the toys to life games but when he saw the back to the future expansions, he was more interested in Lego dimensions than he was before. Also lego is nostalgic for most adults. Imagine if the toy you grew up with had the characters that you grew up with, and it was a video game all in the same bundle. Also with a single pack you get 3 different models/modes that you can play out of the one vehicle. I was hyped for portal when I found out it was going to be in LD and my friends are happy for the Dr. Who expansions. Lastly the game is over the internet, so whenever they release a new expansion, you don't need a new game, all ou need to do is download a patch. While I probably will be picking up LD and SSC, I have to say that LD may be my preferred TTL game this year. Sorry Skylanders

its nothing to be sorry about, many long time skylanders fans feel the same.

I think Lego Dimensions looks fun, but really not much more than your average Lego games. And they fall in price quickly. The only reason the price is high on this is because of the inclusion of the Legos. The game will be good, as most Lego games are good. The price won't drop as quickly as your average Lego game because of the toys included. Personally I'm fine with just playing Lego City: Undercover (the best Lego game), Lego Marvel and Lego Batman 3 - those games are great. Dimensions is going to have to show me something vastly different if they want me to spring anytime before it gets price slashed. And that's coming from a family that LOVES Legos and Lego games - TakeYourLemons can confirm my family's substantial affection for Legos ...

IMO, I think DI may beat Skylanders this year. They wanna keep going, but they should just stop. They really have milked every last drop from this franchise..
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It's Activision, they take "milking" to a whole new level. There is still plenty of interest in Skylanders. It will end when we have a game that fails to sell in decent numbers and later waves have a hard time reaching shelves because previous waves aren't selling. Once we reach that point there will probably be another game after that, just to be sure.

Infinity will do decently, again. I'm sure lots of Star Wars figures will sell, how can they not? Star Wars figures always sell, and now we have a brand new movie coming out. Whether they sell to be played in the game - well, not so certain. The game is fun, but not at all like Skylanders.

Dimensions will sell well. People love Legos. End of story.

Amiibos aren't going anywhere, but the craziness is starting to subside. After it does, people will still want them. Nintendo has great characters, and most work in multiple games, so that's nice. If you have a WiiU or 3DS and don't at least have a couple of the main ones (Mario, Link, etc.) you miss out on some fun, albeit minor, content now and into the future (you know future Mario and Zelda games will have at least some support for them). You don't need a large set unless you like to collect. The fact that the platform itself supports them (New 3DS and WiiU) is a big plus with Amiibos, no accessories/starter packs required.

I'd say anything less than 2 million starters sold will be a red flag. Another 30% drop off this year like Trap Team will get them close to that point.

I mean, the numbers don't lie. People ARE tired of the same schtick. 30% have voted with their dollars. It could also be people are tired of spending money relative to the reward, and they aren't innovating enough...but it's clear there's a certain level of suspect I have on how they're handling the franchise.

Not one to speculate on sales but you could blame a lot of TT's issues on figure sales last year on the last minute change of the Traptanium Gates - if people are willing to sell used as soon as they open the gates they need, you're not "giving them a use", you're actually shooting yourself in the foot. While they only beat Traptanium to unlock stuff, you only needed one, and people were hyped, but of course they listened to us asking for things they could do as 'they need to unlock more things' and not 'we need more reasons to have them over Cores' and it went south.
(ironically, as many issues LC tech had, it'd have been a better choice to give them that since many mentioned it'd make them a lot more interesting)
We can only hope their silence now doesn't mean they're finding more stuff that "we asked for"; the dumb decisions are at a well darn good number and Vehicle Elemental Gates, Elemental Superchager Gates or ANYTHING of the sort could turn the vehicle hype into the same negative wave we had last year, if not worse since now we'd be fooled twice.

If you look at it from the devs perspective, it's a double edged sword for them if you lock too much behind the figure people complain. If the figure doesn't do enough people complain.

They have a very weak grasp of "what we asked for". If they mean some kid said "I want another Gil Grunt", then maybe - but that is not what fans want. We wanted jumping, and they only grudgingly added that, and Trap Team still pulled away from it back to jump pads. We wanted full online, and they are only kind of doing that. Less or no reposes, and half the roster are basically reposes this year.

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They have a very weak grasp of "what we asked for". If they mean some kid said "I want another Gil Grunt", then maybe - but that is not what fans want. We wanted jumping, and they only grudgingly added that, and Trap Team still pulled away from it back to jump pads. We wanted full online, and they are only kind of doing that. Less or no reposes, and half the roster are basically reposes this year.

I agree, but they must be getting their information from more reliable sources than this website...like maybe a nice plushy corporate office where people are totally isolated from customers.

Now cmon, defpally....these aren't reposes, they are FULLY re-imagined, with new capabilities....no I'm not buying it either.

The only competition in my opinion is Amiibo they are starting to become bigger than Skylanders , the reason would be is everyone is familiar with these amiibos , there for they have a wider audience than Skylanders for example. The good thing though is Skylanders has the ability to reinvent itself while Amiibo would come to a certain point where they can no longer produce relevant figure characters due to them all being out already. DI is a flop since day 1 and LD won't have the same appeal as amiibo and skylanders I mean interactive lego figures ummmm not that big of a deal when you look at the competitors.