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Could we already know the level count of Swap Force? [CLOSED]
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#1 Posted: 18:16:37 08/02/2013 | Topic Creator
I know this seems farfetched, but I had an epiphany.

What if we already know the level count of Swap Force, based on the way Giants handled the distribution of Soul Gems?

16 Swap Force = 16 Soul Gems
16 Newlanders = 16 Soul Gems

Could we be looking at a game with at least 32 levels? How cool would that be?

If you think about it, Vicarious Visions has had about as long of a development time as Spyro's Adventure did, give or take a month. When you have more development time, there's no need to rush, which leads to more... generally.

I hope the longer development times for Toys For Bob/Vicarious Visions every other year, translates into longer games. But, if we base Soul Gems on Giants, we COULD be looking at 32 levels. Here's hoping.
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#2 Posted: 18:19:27 08/02/2013
32 levels? Yes please! Let's just hope they have the good quality that the levels in Giants did, and not the rather sloppy quality that some of the levels in SA did!
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#3 Posted: 18:20:06 08/02/2013
Possible - but it could also be 16 levels like last time, with a Swap Force Soul Gem and Newlander Soul Gem in each level. - I'd bet on that before betting that we'll get a 32 level game - but we can hope!
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#4 Posted: 18:31:54 08/02/2013
I think you might have something there...BUT....I'd say we're looking at maybe 28 levels at launch with 4 more in Adventure Packs by this logic. Yes I'm calling it now that Adventure Packs will make a triumphant return in Swap Force. If they had 2 Soul Gems per level that would make a 16 level game and that's way too short. They could mix it up but I think this will be a beefier game than Giants. It's already doubled the amount of new Skylanders so 32 total levels is possible. But then again Spyro's Adventure had 22 launch levels and 4 Adventure Pack levels so who knows. It might be something closer to Spyro's Adventure.
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#5 Posted: 18:35:22 08/02/2013
SSA had multiple Soul Gems per level, and they weren't a constant number, so Swap Force could be no different.
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#6 Posted: 18:35:48 08/02/2013
The first game did not have 28 levels, so I doubt it.
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#7 Posted: 18:42:19 08/02/2013
Oh yeah.....they might just do multiple soul gems for certain levels....:/
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#8 Posted: 18:55:47 08/02/2013
Let's hope so. I've 100%'d Giants on both modes.
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#9 Posted: 19:59:28 08/02/2013 | Topic Creator
Well, I sincerely hope this game isn't as short as Giants was, especially if the game ends up costing more due to having 2 Swaplanders in the Starter Pack.

With 56 characters, it doesn't need to be as short as Giants. 32 characters for 26 levels in the first game seemed about right, while 48 characters for 20 levels seems like a step back. If they do 32 Soul Gems, and insist on having multiple gems per level, then they need to at least make the level count at 22+.

I do hope Adventure Packs/Magical Items return.
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#10 Posted: 20:05:21 08/02/2013
For me, I see them not having a Soul Gem for the SwapLanders. I know that seems a bit weird, but because these guys are looking to be pretty different from what we've seen of regular characters (in terms of leveling up) I have to consider that there's not one for them.

I'd LOVE for there to be 32 levels in the game, but we'll probably wind up with 16 again (and if they have SwapLander Soul Gems, then those will probably double up in levels) and then more Adventure Packs to add more levels.
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#11 Posted: 20:09:58 08/02/2013 | Topic Creator
But, if the game has 16 levels and no new Adventure Packs, that is going to be quite sad if you ask me.

There's no reason for them to keep stepping back, even with a longer development time. smilie
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#12 Posted: 20:22:51 08/02/2013
hopefully the dueling studios will creat a bit of a content rivalry, where we can get a little bit more with each offering.
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#13 Posted: 20:28:13 08/02/2013
Quote: spyroflame0487
For me, I see them not having a Soul Gem for the SwapLanders. I know that seems a bit weird, but because these guys are looking to be pretty different from what we've seen of regular characters (in terms of leveling up) I have to consider that there's not one for them.

I'd LOVE for there to be 32 levels in the game, but we'll probably wind up with 16 again (and if they have SwapLander Soul Gems, then those will probably double up in levels) and then more Adventure Packs to add more levels.


DUDE!!! You totally gave me an idea. Given that there will most likely be two Swaplanders for each element what if one has a movement Soulgem and the other has an ability Soulgem for each element. Technically these new Swaplanders would need two different Soulgems because they are really two different personalities. What would be crazy is there are 256 Swaplander Soulgems (my mind just broke a little).
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#14 Posted: 20:36:21 08/02/2013
I'm sure Vicarious Vision will not disappoint us. :3
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#15 Posted: 20:49:44 08/02/2013 | Topic Creator
Grr, if only I were at Toy Fair, or had a way to conduct an interview, I would have asked VV if there are Soul Gems for Swap Force Skylanders. smilie
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#16 Posted: 20:50:52 08/02/2013
32 levels would be amazing, ill be happy if theres at least 22+ levels (not including adventure packs)
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#17 Posted: 22:10:01 08/02/2013
Wow, lots of excellent ideas on the levels and the soul gems.
I just hope they do more levels than were in Giants. The videos for gameplay so far have looked lush. The new graphics look rich and very smooth.
I could see that they could do a soul gem for each half of the swaplander, and maybe the new badge thingy on the base of the bottom half that opens certain sections is where u can find the soul gem.
There are plenty of interesting ideas for the game and what might be included. It's going to be a long summer.
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#18 Posted: 04:12:22 10/02/2013
Quote: GameMaster78
Grr, if only I were at Toy Fair, or had a way to conduct an interview, I would have asked VV if there are Soul Gems for Swap Force Skylanders. smilie



I saw an interview about S:SF and the guy getting interviewed said they would make soul gems for all the new Skylanders.
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#19 Posted: 08:15:52 10/02/2013
Quote: GameMaster78
Grr, if only I were at Toy Fair, or had a way to conduct an interview, I would have asked VV if there are Soul Gems for Swap Force Skylanders. smilie



this was answered in an interview. there will still be soul gems for SSF. check for.the link at FB page. it was also stated that it wilbe like giants that only the new characters will have. as of the max level it was also mentioned as they are still debating and doing more play test for the max levels.
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#20 Posted: 10:54:49 10/02/2013
I was thinking this to, would be great with all those levels
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#21 Posted: 11:27:03 10/02/2013
I really don't want there to be 32 levels but we need more than 20 at least.
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#22 Posted: 12:21:16 10/02/2013
Quote: Tigorus
What would be crazy is there are 256 Swaplander Soulgems (my mind just broke a little).

Actually, there would probably be 16 "half gems" for each part - 32 in all.

Although I wouldn't object to them making Soul Gems that only work for a SPECIFIC combination of Swaplander. Having 256 more "secrets" to conceal within the levels might lead to more creative stage design. (As well as improve their revenue by making a gate blocking a Swaplander Soul Gem that requires the Lightcore Explosion effect to open, etc.)
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#23 Posted: 16:12:00 10/02/2013
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Quote: GameMaster78
Grr, if only I were at Toy Fair, or had a way to conduct an interview, I would have asked VV if there are Soul Gems for Swap Force Skylanders. smilie



this was answered in an interview. there will still be soul gems for SSF. check for.the link at FB page. it was also stated that it wilbe like giants that only the new characters will have. as of the max level it was also mentioned as they are still debating and doing more play test for the max levels.



Then how does someone get the soul gems from the older characters? Would we have to buy them in game?
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#24 Posted: 16:17:04 10/02/2013
you wouldn't need soul gems for the older characters.
the upgrades would be unlocked already just like in Giants
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#25 Posted: 22:13:47 10/02/2013
^this but this will be really great as there wud be 32 new characters so its either there wud be 32 ingame levels 1 soulgemp per level or 16 levels, 2 soul gems per level. guess we have to wait and see.
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