darkSpyro

Quote: darkrai848

I think this was a big mistake... For the first time in 5 games (4 and this one) I think I may not get all of the figures because of this mess. I bought 2 for ssa , 2 for sg, 3 for ssf, and 4 for stt (3 at first then the ipad version for $12 on amazon) but 5 or 6 starters... 3 of them are $100 each is way past the limit...

This is from some one that has every in-game figure from SSA,SG,SSF, and all from STT minus the E3 trap and the 3 as of yet released traps.

Apparently we're entitled brats...no one is "forcing us" to collect them all.

http://kotaku.com/supercharger...d-am-1716198951

The way I have it worked out, if I choose to get a Dark Edition Starter Pack, I'd go for one of two combinations:

Option 1: Wii U Dark Edition + 3DS

Option 2: Wii U Regular Edition + 3DS + Wii Dark Edition

Even if both the 3DS and Wii U versions of SuperChargers Racing are the same gameplay-wise, I could use one for local multiplayer and the other for online features. I'd probably be more likely to pick the first option, though.

Quote: TakeYourLemons

Apparently we're entitled brats...no one is "forcing us" to collect them all.

http://kotaku.com/supercharger...d-am-1716198951

If you need to be told that from Kotaku then I can't even properly argue. A lot of their articles seem to be more or less 'how dare you criticize the devs' or 'how dare you NOT critizice the devs' when it comes to this kind of stuff and whatever's the bias of the day they'll follow.

Quote: wideawakewesley

Looks great

ALL OF MY YES!!!!
this gave a nice big cut to my overall day one price.

Now it's 100$ (Assuming considering previous dark starters) to get Spitfire, Hotstreak, Donkey Kong, and Barrel Blaster (And a Kaos trophy thing)
And another 75$ for the 3DS Bowser starter Pack. (For Bowser+Vehicle+ Supershot Stealth Elf)

And best part, unlike buying 3 different starters, I get only ONE Supershot Stealth Elf.
I am so happy .

...I'm stuck *can't read link at work but I figure I know what they are saying*...

Like I don't think most of us have yet to admit where we tr4uly stand on the Skyklander fandom scale. If you have ever bought a second copy, you are on the extreme end. If you worry about collecting them all, you are on the extreme end. I say that to say no you aren't "entitled", but you have to remove yourself from the equation when talking Starter sets, the average family will buy one set.

I'm trying to figure it all now, this heavily messed me up. I want to get the game for the XBOne, but both DK and Bowser are my Nintendo mainstays...first Amiibo's I bought, I got two Bowsers, customized the second one to match my son's Metal Mario. Fortunately, we have two wii U's in our house (blame my wife loving Splatoons so much), to go with the 3DS and XBone. I figure wit hthe Kaos thing being bonus content, its going to have a decent resale value...so if someone wants to get two dark sets, they easily can, and then resale it at parts to cover their loss, possibly even breaking even (by no way am I endorsing being a reseller, just stating that financially it is very possible to get what you want without killing yourself).

Right now I'm thinking...
$100 a set.
TRU will most likely do the half price thing again or somethign similar, so 2 dark sets will only run you $150...with their credit card stuff on top.
I 'NEED' Dark Bowser, I'd like a regular Bowser, and I want at least one Donkey Kong *preferably one of each*...
I want Spitfire, not hung up on dark or regular...
I want one Kaos Trophy, will be resellable though, so buying more is fine...
I really want the game on the Tablet as well...I throoughly enjoyed being able to run it on the iPad, and my son's Kindle handled it really well. Sure some shadows weren't there, but it still looked TERRIFIC, and played true to form.
I do NOT care about Stealth Elf, though I like her vehicle...

So without knowing what else will be available at launch....
Wii U - Dark
Wii or 3DS - Dark (will pick system as I know what the game is like more)
XBOne - Dark
Tablet - Regular

Out of that, I will most likely hold off on the tablet until I can find a stupidly good sale...2 copies is overkill, 3 is just dumb, 4 is some derogatory comment not to be said in this forum. I will sale duplicate Kaos Trophies (maybe for $20 *shrug*), I'll sell the duplicate Dark Spitfire (another $20), as well as Dark car (another $20), and inswtead of $250 fo 3 copies, I would have paid $170 for 3 copies, and (at $20) fairly helped someone who wanted the dark stuff. After that, I'll just track sales until their is a STUPID sale again, to get my hands on a regular DK and Bowser - most likely getting Bower on the 'other' system that I didn't get the first time, and DK I'll yank out and sale the whole set minus him for whatever a fair rate would be.

Sigh...so much work, but its getting me excited to play as DK or Bowser...too bad DK doesn't look to have his SMB punch MUAHAHAHAHAHA
- Unreall

Quote: FireMeowth

It's a shame they didn't put Dark Super Shot Stealth Elf and the Dark Sea Shadow in the Wii pack instead of Spitfire and Hot Streak.

I was thinking the same thing!

As of now i'm prob going to buy:

Dark Wii U
Dark Wii
Dark PS4

I'd hold off on buying all 3 but idk if this years dark editions will be like trap team or swap force. In other words will these be restocked alot or will they be gone by xmas??

As for regular packs i'll wait for hopefully another low cost sale near this time next year or I'll look on ebay for loose figures. Unless amiibo fans buy up all the loose bowsers and donkey kong I dont see them being too much hard to find loose.

Quote: Unreallystic

Like I don't think most of us have yet to admit where we tr4uly stand on the Skyklander fandom scale. If you have ever bought a second copy, you are on the extreme end.

Naw. I assume that virtually everyone who has purchased the 3DS version has also purchased the console version. I don't imagine there's a whole lot of 3DS-only Skylanders fans out there (but I'm sure they do exist). Buying two isn't extreme. Buying two *console* starters, yeah - you're probably in the upper 25% of buying fans.

Quote: UncleBob

Quote: Unreallystic

Like I don't think most of us have yet to admit where we tr4uly stand on the Skyklander fandom scale. If you have ever bought a second copy, you are on the extreme end.

Naw. I assume that virtually everyone who has purchased the 3DS version has also purchased the console version. I don't imagine there's a whole lot of 3DS-only Skylanders fans out there (but I'm sure they do exist). Buying two isn't extreme. Buying two *console* starters, yeah - you're probably in the upper 25% of buying fans.

I'll give you that one...that's fair. It's why I got so upset with the Tablet Starter last year, anyone buying the tablet version, most likely arleady has the starter from somewhere else, don't feed us more of the same two characters...even the 'digital variants' were of those two characters. Tablet users should get 'new' figures, it would help spur the sales of it.
- Unreall

Quote: Windumup

Quote: wideawakewesley

Looks great

ALL OF MY YES!!!!
this gave a nice big cut to my overall day one price.

Now it's 100$ (Assuming considering previous dark starters) to get Spitfire, Hotstreak, Donkey Kong, and Barrel Blaster (And a Kaos trophy thing)
And another 75$ for the 3DS Bowser starter Pack. (For Bowser+Vehicle+ Supershot Stealth Elf)

And best part, unlike buying 3 different starters, I get only ONE Supershot Stealth Elf.
I am so happy .

The 3DS Starter is actually only $65, not $75

I'm looking at 6 Starter Packs: PS4 (regular & dark), Wii U (regular & dark), Wii (dark), 3DS. But, only because of my completist nature. I always bought Dark packs and the only Nintendo console we have is the 3DS. Originally, I was going to just get the PS4, Wii U (for Donkey Kong), and 3DS. Now that there are Dark starter packs, I'm on the hook for the PS4, Wii U and Wii. I will have to consider how I will handle this. Of course, I could get a Wii U and all problems are solved.

Quote: Bifrost

Quote: TakeYourLemons

Apparently we're entitled brats...no one is "forcing us" to collect them all.

http://kotaku.com/supercharger...d-am-1716198951

If you need to be told that from Kotaku then I can't even properly argue. A lot of their articles seem to be more or less 'how dare you criticize the devs' or 'how dare you NOT critizice the devs' when it comes to this kind of stuff and whatever's the bias of the day they'll follow.

I don't need anyone to tell me anything....including you. I'm simply offering up this interesting nugget. Deflect away.

In all honesty, I think I might just get the regular starter pack. That is, the regular Wii U starter pack. Mainly for money reasons, but I dunno, I need more information.

Quote: Unreallystic

Like I don't think most of us have yet to admit where we tr4uly stand on the Skyklander fandom scale. If you have ever bought a second copy, you are on the extreme end. If you worry about collecting them all, you are on the extreme end. I say that to say no you aren't "entitled", but you have to remove yourself from the equation when talking Starter sets, the average family will buy one set.

It's really all about attitude. Being a collector doesn't make you entitled, having an entitled attitude does.


Non-entitled attitude: "This starter pack situation is so frustrating for me because I want all the variants they have! But I understand Activision isn't catering to me, and wants to entice as many non-collectors into buying starter packs as possible, and that's okay because Activision has every right to cater to whoever they choose. Still sucks for me, though!"


Entitled attitude: "**** you, Activision! You're ruining the series by having starter sets aimed at appealing to the casual market rather than the hardcore completionist collector audience! You should be appealing to me and my buying habits!"

Quote: Muffin Man

Quote: Unreallystic

Like I don't think most of us have yet to admit where we tr4uly stand on the Skyklander fandom scale. If you have ever bought a second copy, you are on the extreme end. If you worry about collecting them all, you are on the extreme end. I say that to say no you aren't "entitled", but you have to remove yourself from the equation when talking Starter sets, the average family will buy one set.

It's really all about attitude. Being a collector doesn't make you entitled, having an entitled attitude does.


Non-entitled attitude: "This starter pack situation is so frustrating for me because I want all the variants they have! But I understand Activision isn't catering to me, and wants to entice as many non-collectors into buying starter packs as possible, and that's okay because Activision has every right to cater to whoever they choose. Still sucks for me, though!"


Entitled attitude: "**** you, Activision! You're ruining the series by having starter sets aimed at appealing to the casual market rather than the hardcore completionist collector audience! You should be appealing to me and my buying habits!"

Forum needs like button...

That pretty much nails it. Do I wish they had a second tier "Collector's Starter Pack", that focused on bringing it all together - sure as heck do, but I understand. I would pay a 'tax' if you will to get all the Starter Pack content in one package. Ironically I'd STILL have an issue because as mentioned, there is somethign to be said for a 'portable' set, but yeah just deal with it. If you really want to collect it all, then buy it all up and sell what you don't need. It's how I'll get my Bowsers...because yeah, Bad guys>Good guys.

Mario Party 10, proof that everyone wants to be a bad guy...
- Unreall

Why couldn't they have made one Nintendo Dark starter with both characters and cars so that you don't end up buying the game for the old Wii and the new Wii U? That would have reduced the necessary starter packs some. Heck, I would have bought a WiiU super starter with regular and Dark versions of both characters and paid extra before I would shell out for two dark starter packs when I got rid of the Wii to upgrade to the Wii U.

I think we will have to choose one dark starter and forget the others which is sad as we have collected all the characters from past games, but this is looking like too much. We are waiting for sales to finish out Trap Team (we bought the Dark Starter day one and will pick up the regular once it's $20), but the Dark Starters are usually gone before the game gets cheap..... We are still seeing a few random Wii Dark Starter Packs for Trap Team around here but not for the other platforms.... With the exclusive characters for Superchargers, I don't see the Dark Starters lasting long....
At least they haven't announced any "buy the bundle with the console to get this exclusive character sets yet".

Quote: UncleBob

Quote: Unreallystic

Like I don't think most of us have yet to admit where we tr4uly stand on the Skyklander fandom scale. If you have ever bought a second copy, you are on the extreme end.

Naw. I assume that virtually everyone who has purchased the 3DS version has also purchased the console version. I don't imagine there's a whole lot of 3DS-only Skylanders fans out there (but I'm sure they do exist). Buying two isn't extreme. Buying two *console* starters, yeah - you're probably in the upper 25% of buying fans.

We buy for multiple consoles once the game is cheap so we feel like the characters were worth the cost. We replay the game after we've had time to forget it a bit and feels like we bought all the characters for more than one play through. When we upgraded to PS4 we kept the PS3, so it makes since if we can get the starter pack for $15 (on sale at Best Buy with Gamer's Club) to replay and use some the later released characters that didn't get much play time the first time through. We might be in the minority of players anyways though, as we don't have kids to blame our collecting on. We see Skylanders as a hobby, it's cheaper than some at least...

At least the Wii U and Wii versions are different.

And you can play the Wii version on the Wii U, too. :)

Skylander Boy and Girl YouTube channel has a video w/ gameplay regarding the dark edition starter packs.

Quote: Wreckingball13

Quote: Windumup

Quote: wideawakewesley

Looks great

ALL OF MY YES!!!!
this gave a nice big cut to my overall day one price.

Now it's 100$ (Assuming considering previous dark starters) to get Spitfire, Hotstreak, Donkey Kong, and Barrel Blaster (And a Kaos trophy thing)
And another 75$ for the 3DS Bowser starter Pack. (For Bowser+Vehicle+ Supershot Stealth Elf)

And best part, unlike buying 3 different starters, I get only ONE Supershot Stealth Elf.
I am so happy .

The 3DS Starter is actually only $65, not $75

Oh, even better.

Me? Both versions (dark and standard) for PS3 at TRU, along with everything else coming out on 9/20/2015.

Instant buy! Now to pony up the cash...oops.

Kinda sorta bummed that they're going with Dark Stealth Elf again...but everything else looks solid!

Target (USA) has pre-orders up at $74.99 ($25 discount)

http://bit.ly/1HkNeyf

Claims that they ship on 9/20, but I suppose might ship early?

-vm

Quote: ViDeOmAnCiNi

Target (USA) has pre-orders up at $74.99 ($25 discount)

http://bit.ly/1HkNeyf

Claims that they ship on 9/20, but I suppose might ship early?

-vm

It was apparently an error, as by the time I got a chance to see the news and check Target's website, they were all bumped to $99.99/ea.

-Doug

my wallet.... it hurts...

Long time reader, first time posting. Just curious as to what people think the secondary market will be like for the items in the dark starter. In previous years I have waited until Black Friday, but I am worried about the availability of the starters in store (after what I saw with the trap team dark edition basically disappearing). I will likely want the kaos trophy and I also prefer dark spitfire to the regular version. I'm wondering if I should buy the dark starter and sell sea shadow and stealth elf or try to get the regular and buy the ones I want from the dark edition on eBay? Just curious what others are thinking about doing. I'm leaning towards just getting the dark edition on day one, I'm just afraid the dark sea shadow and stealth elf will be hard to sell

my current plan is to be a super crazy person and buy a starter, a wiiu starter, a dark starter, a dark wii starter a dark wiiu starter and 3ds starter....


then buy lego dimensions the next week...

well goona get wiiudark starter and a 3ds starter for 40 percent off

Since Stealth and Sea Shadow aren't in all the packs, they may have resale value. With Kaos Trophy and Spitefire coming in all the sets, anyone who decides to buy more than one Dark Starter for collecting purposes will end up with spares, so they may be easier to get on the used market...

People, including myself, will be buying multiple Dark starter packs, thus Chaos trophy, Dark Spitfire, and Dark Hot Streak will be plentiful on ebay. Actually, ebay will be flooded with portals, Super-Shot Stealth Elf, and various game discs. I plan to buy 3 Dark and 1 regular starter packs at launch. The price on ebay may not be worth the effort, but there will be still be plenty on ebay.

Quote: darkchylde28

Quote: ViDeOmAnCiNi

Target (USA) has pre-orders up at $74.99 ($25 discount)

http://bit.ly/1HkNeyf

Claims that they ship on 9/20, but I suppose might ship early?

-vm

It was apparently an error, as by the time I got a chance to see the news and check Target's website, they were all bumped to $99.99/ea.

-Doug

Hmmm... it must have been a limited sale because it said $74.99 (reg $99) for the price. Bummer. I guess I am glad I got my pre-order in for one pack. Sorry man.

-vm

It's probably a stupid question, but would Dark Super Shot Stealth Elf and Dark Sea Shadow work in the Wii U version of the game?

Quote: GamerZack7

It's probably a stupid question, but would Dark Super Shot Stealth Elf and Dark Sea Shadow work in the Wii U version of the game?

Yes they would.