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Chinese/Sun Dragon???? [CLOSED]
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#1 Posted: 03:06:36 21/03/2013 | Topic Creator
is it dead? is it coming? was it a prototype? nobody knows!!!
it appeard in skylanders: the beginning. so it was either cancelled or pushed back.
I was hoping it would show up in Giants, but it didn't. maybe swap force? I want it to come out, it is so freak'n awesome!!!!
heres the vid:

Chinese/Sun dragon is shown on 1:05 behind smilie and 1:26 behind smilie.
I thought it would show up in Giants, considering they went so far with him to the point where he was on the trailer.
it really is a shame...
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#2 Posted: 03:48:53 21/03/2013
There have been topics about this scrapped character design for a while. Sun Dragon is the scrapped character design of Camo. The reason Sun Dragon appeared in The Beginning trailer was because changes in Camo's design was made late during the trailer's production.

So, no, Sun Dragon will not be in any future Skylander game since his successor, Camo, is his final design form.
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#3 Posted: 03:49:12 21/03/2013
it was a scraped skylander smilie
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#4 Posted: 07:49:52 21/03/2013
I presume you don't mean it needs a band-aid. There's a small chance it'll get recycled, but doubtful
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#5 Posted: 08:07:51 21/03/2013
There were many character designs that were scrapped, such as Cyclops Snail (the earlier version of Zap) and Bomb Troll (the earlier version of Boomer). All characters go through design phases during development, the old designs would be scrapped completely, or used for a different purpose in a later time.

I wouldn't get my hopes up too high by the possible idea of Sun Dragon being a playable character, since he was the early form of Camo, but time will tell.
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#6 Posted: 15:06:26 21/03/2013 | Topic Creator
but I also saw camo on the trailer, and he was NOT the sun dragon. at least, it looks like camo.
heres the vid again:

he shows up in the right bottom corner at 0:57
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#7 Posted: 16:08:21 21/03/2013
i think it looked more like zap
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#8 Posted: 16:15:15 21/03/2013
cool profile!
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#9 Posted: 16:16:36 21/03/2013
Quote: HotDogAndZap
but I also saw camo on the trailer, and he was NOT the sun dragon. at least, it looks like camo.
heres the vid again:

he shows up in the right bottom corner at 0:57


Yes, yes, both Camo and Sun Dragon appeard in the trailer, but you may have to understand that Sun Dragon was scrapped, and will most likely will not appear in any future Skylander games due to Camo being his successor.
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#10 Posted: 16:18:54 21/03/2013
^ I want it to come in a future game.
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#11 Posted: 16:24:29 21/03/2013
Quote: I-Brawler
^ I want it to come in a future game.


You have to understand that characters go through phrases during game development, some designs others like are scrapped to make way for new designs that would become the final version.
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#12 Posted: 16:33:04 21/03/2013
you have no PROOF that it won't happen.

But yeah, I know what zap went through.
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#13 Posted: 16:37:39 21/03/2013
No I don't have proof, but the lack of Sun Dragon in previous games would prove otherwise.
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#14 Posted: 17:00:29 21/03/2013 | Topic Creator
This isn't something to fight about. I just thought it was wierd. I am hoping they decided to delay it debut, but I know that isn't likely. Let's just converse about the possibility or impossibility and not start a fight. I hate it when people fight. and I do understand what Aura24 was talking about. he/she makes a good point. the sun dragon might be to closely related to camo to be released.
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#15 Posted: 17:35:39 21/03/2013
The original post of I-Brawler was easily modified as to state his opinion without apparently attacking another user. I ask that everyone give I-Brawler the benefit of the doubt here as to avoid derailing the thread further.

edit- went through purged thread of conversation not immediately reflective of the thread to get things back on track. All these removals were logged as site cleanup not rule infractions.

-Back on topic-

There is a past history of using scrapped skylanders in another format in the game (the wizard and Flavius). However, it has been several years here so it is likely SunDragon has been forgotten and will not be seen again in game. It is possible a developer may bring him in another version but the longer we go without this happening the more doubt I have.
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#16 Posted: 18:58:28 21/03/2013
Some where I remember a dev said it was early camo.
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#17 Posted: 19:58:06 21/03/2013
I want the sniper troll to make an appearance!!!!
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#18 Posted: 20:26:31 21/03/2013
You want a troll firing a sniper rifle in a kids game?
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#19 Posted: 20:58:02 21/03/2013
Well, his sniper could be made rather kid-friendly with minimal effort. His projectiles could look like Nerf darts, or energy beams. I mean, even Trigger Happy has two handguns and a turret, but it was made "harmless" because it fires coins and energy blasts.
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#20 Posted: 22:24:27 21/03/2013
Quote: Aura24
You want a troll firing a sniper rifle in a kids game?



The Arkeyan snipers were in the game, smilie has a minigun and smilie has a bazooka, so....

YES!!!! I really want that guy!!!!!
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#21 Posted: 22:28:23 21/03/2013
But have you seen how Buckshot plays?
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#22 Posted: 03:22:08 22/03/2013
Quote: Aura24
But have you seen how Buckshot plays?



Buckshot has a gameplay vid!?
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#23 Posted: 04:02:57 22/03/2013
Not exactly. A user hacked into the game of Giants and thought it would be a "good idea" to show off some scrapped characters while showing off the hacked version of Eye Brawl (when he wasn't out yet). Activision saw the video of the hacked content and had it taken down.
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#24 Posted: 14:42:46 22/03/2013
We do know it was SCRAPED GET OVER IT!
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#25 Posted: 20:48:07 22/03/2013
I hope the sun dragon gets in this game. I also wouldnt mind seeing the sniper-troll.
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#26 Posted: 14:20:22 23/03/2013
I liked the fact that he seemed to play just like an Arkeyan sniper, he makes a bush appear above him and it gives you the laser beam to aim with.
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#27 Posted: 17:49:50 23/03/2013
Most likely, it was probably down to "Sun Dragon" and Camo for the dragons of each element that they had going with SA. They chose Camo.
With Giants, a new dragon was introduced for Earth so "Sun dragon" could make a return later down the line.

Or The developers though he just wasn't good enough/working satisfactorily for the game. It could happen.
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#28 Posted: 19:32:08 23/03/2013
I remember when everyone was spazzing out over the Sun Dragon a couple of years ago...
but yeah, I really doubt that he would come out in future games.
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#29 Posted: 19:43:03 23/03/2013
Quote: C1nder
a couple of years ago...


I don't know why I found this so funny. I guess because Skylanders has only been around since 2011, but still I guess 2 years later counts as "a couple".
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#30 Posted: 21:56:41 23/03/2013
Quote: Hexin_Wishes
Quote: C1nder
a couple of years ago...


I don't know why I found this so funny. I guess because Skylanders has only been around since 2011, but still I guess 2 years later counts as "a couple".



Yeah, it does. But when someone says 'a couple' it sounds longer than only two years X3
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#31 Posted: 08:20:28 26/03/2013
It was proved that it was a prototype. Unless Cyclops slime gets one, it's not happening.
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#32 Posted: 12:14:03 26/03/2013
yeah, sorry, they have moved on. As for showing up in the trailer along with Camo, they probably just had a 3D wireframe already done and used it to fill up space when they needed masses of characters running around. Sorta like how the original SFX guys used a tennis shoe as part of the Rebel Fleet in the assault on the second Death Star in RotJ
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#33 Posted: 23:15:28 27/03/2013
That is not a camo concept design or whatever... because camo is in the video
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#34 Posted: 23:18:38 27/03/2013
Quote: ninjacat
That is not a camo concept design or whatever... because camo is in the video


Sun Dragon IS the early design of Camo, ninja. Sun Dragon was added in the trailer before Camo's design was changed to his current one. They left Sun Dragon in the trailer, but added in Camo as well.
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#35 Posted: 23:22:46 27/03/2013
Quote: Aura24
Quote: ninjacat
That is not a camo concept design or whatever... because camo is in the video


Sun Dragon IS the concept design of Camo, ninja. Sun Dragon was added in before Camo's design was changed to his current one. They left Sun Dragon in the trailer, but added in Camo as well.



that makes NO sense. if they finished camo, and his finished design is in the trailer, then both characters have to exist.
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#36 Posted: 23:26:01 27/03/2013
They made Camo's final design late when the trailer was nearly finished. Since Sun Dragon was already in, the developers left him in the trailer instead of scrapping him out altogether, and instead added Camo in the trailer too.

You have to understand the process of game development, I-Brawler. Sun Dragon is a scrapped early design of Camo. Camo is Sun Dragon's successor.
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#37 Posted: 00:00:34 28/03/2013
Quote: Aura24
They made Camo's final design late when the trailer was nearly finished. Since Sun Dragon was already in, the developers left him in the trailer instead of scrapping him out altogether, and instead added Camo in the trailer too.

You have to understand the process of game development, I-Brawler. Sun Dragon is a scrapped early design of Camo. Camo is Sun Dragon's successor.



*shuns*
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#38 Posted: 15:58:47 28/03/2013
To make a point here, Cyclopes Slime became Zap and Sun Dragon became Camo. Prototypes almost never come to be and usually turn into something else. Sun Dragon is one of those unused prototypes and will never be used in ANY Skylanders game.
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#39 Posted: 23:46:39 31/03/2013 | Topic Creator
I think something inside me just.....broke.....
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#40 Posted: 09:56:52 01/04/2013
Aww c'mon guys, it's possible they may recycle him or bring him in for fans sake or ecause they felt like he could fit in. It may be a really small chance, but it's not permanently ditched.

Also, remember Cryclops Slime (later Tarclops or something?), Fire Dragon, Bomb Troll and how Whirlwind was originally called Stormee? (And Terrafin as Finn or something) I could go on, I love this kinda stuff.

It's like how Banjo Kazooie's original enemy appeared in the sequel; Banjo Tooie. He was a scrapped character and came into the games eventually.
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#41 Posted: 15:32:02 01/04/2013
maybe sun dragon could be a npc (non playable character) in swap force?
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#42 Posted: 21:27:46 06/04/2013
Quote: HotDogAndZap
I think something inside me just.....broke.....


they COULD make him a water dragon cause to me they need a water dragon that uses some kind of water blast i mean it looks more like a chinese dragon than a modern dragon and chinese dragons were believed to live in the ocean so u never kno they might use his look
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#43 Posted: 21:38:45 06/04/2013
There's already a water dragon, Zap.
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#44 Posted: 22:01:27 06/04/2013
Quote: Aura24
There's already a water dragon, Zap.


there was also already an earth dragon, but hat didnt stop them from making smilie so i wouldnt think its impossible. i highly doubt it but you never know
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#45 Posted: 15:28:26 15/04/2013
What? Sun dragon is evolving!.................. Congratulations Activisions sun dragon evolved into Camo!
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#46 Posted: 00:35:51 16/04/2013
It's not unheard for a company to introduce a previously scrapped character.
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#47 Posted: 00:47:02 30/04/2013
God, Sun Dragon is like the Light-type of the Skylanders fandom. Every time a new game is coming out, people think that it will be added. smilie
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#48 Posted: 01:43:20 30/04/2013
^lol I just noticed that.
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