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You aren't a mod here ^.^ and did you not see this:


I actually forgive Torok, but can anyone argue that Forgotten World is not an idiot?

Nevertheless, torok didn't do anything to you, so leave her alone. And she doesn't need to be forgiven by you or anyone except God because she didn't do anything wrong here.

He really didn't answer my question. So we don't know what has happen. Maybe Torok has said something in which offended him through private messaging. If so, maybe Torok needs to apologize. But if is just because she's saying her beliefs, then yes, she doesn't need to apologize to him.

It is that torok said that people should be straight, which hurt me because I thought she hated me .___.

I love everyone ^___^

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Nevertheless, torok didn't do anything to you, so leave her alone. And she doesn't need to be forgiven by you or anyone except God because she didn't do anything wrong here.

He really didn't answer my question. So we don't know what has happen. Maybe Torok has said something in which offended him through private messaging. If so, maybe Torok needs to apologize. But if is just because she's saying her beliefs, then yes, she doesn't need to apologize to him.

It is that torok said that people should be straight, which hurt me because I thought she hated me .___.

Ah, it was a misunderstanding. Thanks for answering.
Sorry that you got hurt. At least you know she doesn't hate you now.


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But if it is just because she's saying her beliefs, then yes, she doesn't need to apologize to him.

Still doesn't make it any less offensive. Some things like that should really be kept to one's self.

I agree that the way Torok puts it is rather harsh. She's just saying it the way she believes it is. But yes, it would be nice if she said it in a way that won't make people feel that their being insulted.
The matter on whether she should keep it to herself is an opinion. So there's no definitive action for that one. She has the right to say as she wishes if she's ready for the responses.

You did not really think she HATED you >.>

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You did not really think she HATED you >.>

He did...

well, torok, what do you mean by this:

And, I hope God shows you what is true. I know He had to show me. I'll be praying for you, my friend. smilie

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We all need to learn a little thing called "Acceptance".

As long as humans live, their will always be people who do not accept others.

Humans are a flawed species. We make mistakes, and don't think alike. This results in people finding fault for those mistakes and growing to hate for those disagreements. This fault can even be found in ourselves over our own flaws. This leads to things such as prejudice and depression. It's a matter of keeping these prejudice thoughts to ourselves and judging people in silent, either ignoring them or choosing to deny these faults to their faces. However, the lack of the ability to keep these thoughts to oneself is yet another flaw; one that many seem to possess. This causes bullying and hurt feelings. Humans also tend to be stubborn and set in their ways. They lack the ability to grow, to change, to allow the capacity for new ideas into their minds causing this refusal to accept the flaws and differences in others.

Perfection is unatainable. If it were, we wouldn't be human. The day humanity as a whole learns this fact and comes to accept that no matter what will be one where we can grow as a species and take one step closer to this unreachable perfection.

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We all need to learn a little thing called "Acceptance".

As long as humans live, their will always be people who do not accept others.

Humans are a flawed species. We make mistakes, and don't think alike. This results in people finding fault for those mistakes and growing to hate for those disagreements. This fault can even be found in ourselves over our own flaws. This leads to things such as prejudice and depression. It's a matter of keeping these prejudice thoughts to ourselves and judging people in silent, either ignoring them or choosing to deny these faults to their faces. However, the lack of the ability to keep these thoughts to oneself is yet another flaw; one that many seem to possess. This causes bullying and hurt feelings. Humans also tend to be stubborn and set in their ways. They lack the ability to grow, to change, to allow the capacity for new ideas into their minds causing this refusal to accept the flaws and differences in others.

Perfection is unatainable. If it were, we wouldn't be human. The day humanity as a whole learns this fact and comes to accept that no matter what will be one where we can grow as a species and take one step closer to this unreachable perfection.

This.


I swear, Seiki, you and I have the same mind sometimes.

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As long as humans live, their will always be people who do not accept others.

Humans are a flawed species. We make mistakes, and don't think alike. This results in people finding fault for those mistakes and growing to hate for those disagreements. This fault can even be found in ourselves over our own flaws. This leads to things such as prejudice and depression. It's a matter of keeping these prejudice thoughts to ourselves and judging people in silent, either ignoring them or choosing to deny these faults to their faces. However, the lack of the ability to keep these thoughts to oneself is yet another flaw; one that many seem to possess. This causes bullying and hurt feelings. Humans also tend to be stubborn and set in their ways. They lack the ability to grow, to change, to allow the capacity for new ideas into their minds causing this refusal to accept the flaws and differences in others.

Perfection is unatainable. If it were, we wouldn't be human. The day humanity as a whole learns this fact and comes to accept that no matter what will be one where we can grow as a species and take one step closer to this unreachable perfection.

This.


I swear, Seiki, you and I have the same mind sometimes.

If you continue to wander through the confinds of my mind, I do not guarantee you safety. If Rei finds you, she will kill you.

This is so sad.

So like the opposite to what most people do it in the real world?

I didn't really watch the whole video.

Just the start and End.

Didn't cry.

I thought that gays were the ones made fun of?

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I thought that gays were the ones made fun of?

This takes place in a world where gay is normal and straight is not. It's to give ignorant right wing extremists and religious bigots an idea of what it's like on the other side.

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well, torok, what do you mean by this:

And, I hope God shows you what is true. I know He had to show me. I'll be praying for you, my friend. smilie

Exactly what I said. I hope He shows you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

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well, torok, what do you mean by this:

And, I hope God shows you what is true. I know He had to show me. I'll be praying for you, my friend. smilie

Exactly what I said. I hope He shows you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

I don't want to start anything, i just wanna ask a question.
Lets say God does show people the truth, and that the truth is that homosexual is a sin and wrong, what are we supposed to do? Try to rid of our feelings, live without being entirely happy? We would have to deal with being with the opposite gender. And lets say if we're homosexual, and we do go to hell, how are we suppose to repent if we cant be christian if we're homosexuals?

Once you get born again you beg and plead for a new heart and mind. We become a new creation in Christ. If you push the plow (Become a Christian.) and you look back (Go back to your sins.) then you're not worthy of being His.
Once you GIVE everything to Jesus and you really mean it, He will start to clean up your life, even if He has to turn your whole world on its head, He will do that. It's for your own good. He had to do that with me, it took years. If you call yourself Christian and you still live the homosexual lifestyle then you're pushing the plow and you looked back. He doesn't want you to do that. Maybe He will work with you until He can get your eyes to just look straight ahead.
If you die and go to Hell, that's it. You're done.

Oh, why must gays have a label. Why must they be discriminated.

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Once you get born again you beg and plead for a new heart and mind. We become a new creation in Christ. If you push the plow (Become a Christian.) and you look back (Go back to your sins.) then you're not worthy of being His.
Once you GIVE everything to Jesus and you really mean it, He will start to clean up your life, even if He has to turn your whole world on its head, He will do that. It's for your own good. He had to do that with me, it took years. If you call yourself Christian and you still live the homosexual lifestyle then you're pushing the plow and you looked back. He doesn't want you to do that. Maybe He will work with you until He can get your eyes to just look straight ahead.
If you die and go to Hell, that's it. You're done.

Just stop, both of you. Torok, it's good you have faith, but you're not going to change us and we're not going to change us. And DragonCamo, stop trying to argue with her. It's pointless. Let's just agree to disagree.

Oh wow...That's just terrible.

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Once you get born again you beg and plead for a new heart and mind. We become a new creation in Christ. If you push the plow (Become a Christian.) and you look back (Go back to your sins.) then you're not worthy of being His.
Once you GIVE everything to Jesus and you really mean it, He will start to clean up your life, even if He has to turn your whole world on its head, He will do that. It's for your own good. He had to do that with me, it took years. If you call yourself Christian and you still live the homosexual lifestyle then you're pushing the plow and you looked back. He doesn't want you to do that. Maybe He will work with you until He can get your eyes to just look straight ahead.
If you die and go to Hell, that's it. You're done.

Just stop, both of you. Torok, it's good you have faith, but you're not going to change us and we're not going to change us. And DragonCamo, stop trying to argue with her. It's pointless. Let's just agree to disagree.

Hey, they were just talking. DragonCamo just calmly asked and Torok calmly answered.

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Once you get born again you beg and plead for a new heart and mind. We become a new creation in Christ. If you push the plow (Become a Christian.) and you look back (Go back to your sins.) then you're not worthy of being His.
Once you GIVE everything to Jesus and you really mean it, He will start to clean up your life, even if He has to turn your whole world on its head, He will do that. It's for your own good. He had to do that with me, it took years. If you call yourself Christian and you still live the homosexual lifestyle then you're pushing the plow and you looked back. He doesn't want you to do that. Maybe He will work with you until He can get your eyes to just look straight ahead.
If you die and go to Hell, that's it. You're done.

Just stop, both of you. Torok, it's good you have faith, but you're not going to change us and we're not going to change us. And DragonCamo, stop trying to argue with her. It's pointless. Let's just agree to disagree.

Hey, they were just talking. DragonCamo just calmly asked and Torok calmly answered.

The spark before the flame.

And that's alright. It would be nice if more people could be more understanding and/or reasonable. A couple of users here have change from hate to "Ok. I don't support your believes but I see you have the right to talk about them"
Which I find that has made those "flame wars" useful and not a waste of time.

If gays were norm wouldn't the population of humans be smaller?

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If gays were norm wouldn't the population of humans be smaller?

Yes, but that isnt the point of the video.

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@somePerson: That's what I wondered when I read the title. Didn't they say something about a "Breeding season" or something in the video?

Yurp.

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Just stop, both of you. Torok, it's good you have faith, but you're not going to change us and we're not going to change us. And DragonCamo, stop trying to argue with her. It's pointless. Let's just agree to disagree.

Hey, they were just talking. DragonCamo just calmly asked and Torok calmly answered.

The spark before the flame.

Ya, i just asked a question >__>

COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC: OMG Like Katniss during the Victory tour! Every rebellion begins with a spark.

that was very sad.......

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that was very sad.......

This honestly seems more like something you'd post....lol

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that was very sad.......

This honestly seems more like something you'd post....lol

lol so true, if only i found this video first :/

This video nearly made me cry.

Sad story, so much bullying.

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I could only watch up to 11 minutes. Christ, that was so depressing. But if you flip things back to the way they are in the real world, it's so true.

Yep )= and yet all of it is true except flipped.

That's just plain horrible. But the saddest part is, the bullying can be even more severe than what happened to the poor girl D:

I don't understand why people press things they see in their own mind onto others and not see how complex we are as humans and that's okay.

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I could only watch up to 11 minutes. Christ, that was so depressing. But if you flip things back to the way they are in the real world, it's so true.

She cuts herself, swallows pills, and dies.

I started crying it was just painful to see this happen. The acting was really good and caught my emotions. I have never seen anything like this. It really changes my views of gays and lesbians entirely I was comfortable with them but after watching this I feel for them. Just watching all this bullying and reflecting with my own personal bullying just really got to me. This was just horrible. I hate bullying now even more.

However calling out those two users was uncalled for and rude.

Now that I watch this i do suppose this is rather sad

This is very sad, yet also true.

I wish people would just get over it and learn to live in a world where gays are equal. They could do it when African-Americans got equal rights, so there's no reason they can do it now.

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This is very sad, yet also true.

I wish people would just get over it and learn to live in a world where gays are equal. They could do it when African-Americans got equal rights, so there's no reason they can do it now.

Yes, but how many years did it take before African-Americans got those equal rights?

I'm sure the same will come for gays, it just needs time.

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This is very sad, yet also true.

I wish people would just get over it and learn to live in a world where gays are equal. They could do it when African-Americans got equal rights, so there's no reason they can do it now.

Yes, but how many years did it take before African-Americans got those equal rights?

I'm sure the same will come for gays, it just needs time.

good point.

The LGBT community are getting equal rights, or are VERY close to it.

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The LGBT community are getting equal rights, or are VERY close to it.

Hopefully. I don't know if it's a lot, but all I wish for is for us to be able to get married everywhere, and to have the same rights as other married couples. That's honestly all I want.

In a lot of places they do have those rights.

hey if u want to make a serious topic u should really make it in idle chatter