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u all need to be straight or elsge GAWD is groing to wrek u!!!

Quote: Metallo

u all need to be straight or elsge GAWD is groing to wrek u!!!

No, you need to put your trust in Jesus, turn from your sins, or else God will wreck you.

Straight, just like God intended.

Yes.


What? How?

metallo you better back off torok, for she is a True Christian™. she has a place reserved for her in heaven, unlike your unsaved soul. repent today

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metallo you better back off torok, for she is a True Christian™. she has a place reserved for her in heaven, unlike your unsaved soul. repent today

I lol'd at the Trademark. xD

Quote: torok

Yes.


What? How?

You said straight is "the way God intended", and you just disagreed with me saying it, telling me that I need to "trust in Jesus." So if I'm gay and I trust Jesus, I'll be okay? Or do I have to be straight? Which one, torok?

i'd rather live for myself, thanks.

Quote: Metallo

Quote: torok

Yes.


What? How?

You said straight is "the way God intended", and you just disagreed with me saying it, telling me that I need to "trust in Jesus." So if I'm gay and I trust Jesus, I'll be okay? Or do I have to be straight? Which one, torok?

You can't be gay and still call yourself Christian, just like you can't murder and still call yourself Christian. Jesus doesn't accept sinners into His kingdom. You must trust in Jesus, ask Him to take your sins away, turn from sin and live for Him.

@Torok: I'm not trying to say religion is bad or that it's bad that you have faith but really? If the Bible told you to kill someone would you do it? From what I've seen, you probably would. You have to think with you're head sometimes.
In addition, please don't go around saying who is and who isn't a 'true Christian'. I don't think that's your choice. You don't choose who goes to Heaven or Hell and you don't know who is going where. Don't act like you do. That's God's job, not your's.
Pretty sure this is more relevant here than on the sexuality topic, with should get back on topic. X3

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@Torok: I'm not trying to say religion is bad or that it's bad that you have faith but really? If the Bible told you to kill someone would you do it? From what I've seen, you probably would. You have to think with you're head sometimes.
In addition, please don't go around saying who is and who isn't a 'true Christian'. I don't think that's your choice. You don't choose who goes to Heaven or Hell and you don't know who is going where. Don't act like you do. That's God's job, not your's.
Pretty sure this is more relevant here than on the sexuality topic, with should get back on topic. X3

No, I wouldn't kill someone. I'm even forbidden to hate.

The Bible makes it very clear who is and who isn't going to Heaven. Am I wrong for reiterating what the Bible clearly says?

I don't think someone loving a person of their own gender is a good reason to say someone isn't a 'true Christian' and is going to Hell when they die. People should be able to love who they want to love.

I don't think someone loving a person of their own gender is a good reason to say someone isn't a 'true Christian' and is going to Hell when they die. People should be able to love who they want to love.

Quote: shorty

I don't think someone loving a person of their own gender is a good reason to say someone isn't a 'true Christian' and is going to Hell when they die. People should be able to love who they want to love.

But their sin is abomination unto God.

Quote: torok

Quote: shorty

I don't think someone loving a person of their own gender is a good reason to say someone isn't a 'true Christian' and is going to Hell when they die. People should be able to love who they want to love.

But their sin is abomination unto God.

But god made gay people, lesbians, the whole "Antichrist" bunch. Why can't they go to "heaven"?

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Quote: torok

But their sin is abomination unto God.

But god made gay people, lesbians, the whole "Antichrist" bunch. Why can't they go to "heaven"?

He also made the devil, don't forget that!

if hate is a sin

why does god hate people

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if hate is a sin

why does god hate people

He hates sin, He died for people.

Quote: torok

Quote: ReshiramForever

if hate is a sin

why does god hate people

He hates sin, He died for people.

God didn't die for people. Jesus did.

But this is the last time I'm going to say this. Sexuality is NOT a choice. It has even been proven by science. Don't believe me, do a few Google searches.

Quote: Metallo

Quote: torok

He hates sin, He died for people.

God didn't die for people. Jesus did.

But this is the last time I'm going to say this. Sexuality is NOT a choice. It has even been proven by science. Don't believe me, do a few Google searches.

Jesus is God.

It's in our nature. But we must ask for our nature to be striped away and for us to have the nature and the mind and the heart of Christ.

Quote: torok

Quote: Metallo

God didn't die for people. Jesus did.

But this is the last time I'm going to say this. Sexuality is NOT a choice. It has even been proven by science. Don't believe me, do a few Google searches.

Jesus is God.

It's in our nature. But we must ask for our nature to be striped away and for us to have the nature and the mind and the heart of Christ.

If God truly made us in his image, wouldn't we already have his nature?

Quote: Metallo

Quote: torok

He hates sin, He died for people.

God didn't die for people. Jesus did.

But this is the last time I'm going to say this. Sexuality is NOT a choice. It has even been proven by science. Don't believe me, do a few Google searches.

Jesus is God.

It's in our nature. But we must ask for our nature to be striped away and for us to have the nature and the mind and the heart of Christ.

Quote: torok

Quote: Metallo

God didn't die for people. Jesus did.

But this is the last time I'm going to say this. Sexuality is NOT a choice. It has even been proven by science. Don't believe me, do a few Google searches.

Jesus is God.

It's in our nature. But we must ask for our nature to be striped away and for us to have the nature and the mind and the heart of Christ.

and you think homosexual Christians haven't gotten the nature of Christ? don't you think they still love God with all their soul, with all their mind, with all their strength, and with all their heart, even though they are homosexual? and don't you think God still loves them back, even through the things they have to endure? It's like I said before; God wouldn't hurt someone over something they can't control. homosexuality isn't a choice, like Metallo said.

But let's say homosexuality, by some chance, IS a sin. Gay Christians would more than likely ask for forgiveness constantly, like most Christians do when they commit future sins. they would at least TRY to keep to God's path, and not Satan's, even though they can't control this.

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Quote: torok

Jesus is God.

It's in our nature. But we must ask for our nature to be striped away and for us to have the nature and the mind and the heart of Christ.

and you think homosexual Christians haven't gotten the nature of Christ? don't you think they still love God with all their soul, with all their mind, with all their strength, and with all their heart, even though they are homosexual? and don't you think God still loves them back, even through the things they have to endure? It's like I said before; God wouldn't hurt someone over something they can't control. homosexuality isn't a choice, like Metallo said.

But let's say homosexuality, by some chance, IS a sin. Gay Christians would more than likely ask for forgiveness constantly, like most Christians do when they commit future sins. they would at least TRY to keep to God's path, and not Satan's, even though they can't control this.

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If you've got Christ's nature you would HATE the things that God hates and love the things that God loves. God loves people, but hates what they do. You don't know what God wouldn't do, He was punishing His own son, who knew no sin, at the cross because He chose to become sin.

If they turn away completely then God's gonna help them and forgive them if they sin and ask for it. We can't control our temptations but we can choose to say no to them.

Quote: pankakesparx456

Quote: torok

Jesus is God.

It's in our nature. But we must ask for our nature to be striped away and for us to have the nature and the mind and the heart of Christ.

and you think homosexual Christians haven't gotten the nature of Christ? don't you think they still love God with all their soul, with all their mind, with all their strength, and with all their heart, even though they are homosexual? and don't you think God still loves them back, even through the things they have to endure? It's like I said before; God wouldn't hurt someone over something they can't control. homosexuality isn't a choice, like Metallo said.

But let's say homosexuality, by some chance, IS a sin. Gay Christians would more than likely ask for forgiveness constantly, like most Christians do when they commit future sins. they would at least TRY to keep to God's path, and not Satan's, even though they can't control this.

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If you've got Christ's nature you would HATE the things that God hates and love the things that God loves. God loves people, but hates what they do. You don't know what God wouldn't do, He was punishing His own son, who knew no sin, at the cross because He chose to become sin.

If they turn away completely then God's gonna help them and forgive them if they sin and ask for it. We can't control our temptations but we can choose to say no to them.

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Quote: pankakesparx456

and you think homosexual Christians haven't gotten the nature of Christ? don't you think they still love God with all their soul, with all their mind, with all their strength, and with all their heart, even though they are homosexual? and don't you think God still loves them back, even through the things they have to endure? It's like I said before; God wouldn't hurt someone over something they can't control. homosexuality isn't a choice, like Metallo said.

But let's say homosexuality, by some chance, IS a sin. Gay Christians would more than likely ask for forgiveness constantly, like most Christians do when they commit future sins. they would at least TRY to keep to God's path, and not Satan's, even though they can't control this.

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If you've got Christ's nature you would HATE the things that God hates and love the things that God loves. God loves people, but hates what they do. You don't know what God wouldn't do, He was punishing His own son, who knew no sin, at the cross because He chose to become sin.

If they turn away completely then God's gonna help them and forgive them if they sin and ask for it. We can't control our temptations but we can choose to say no to them.

1. It's a sin to hate, but God hates?

2. So someone is supposed to suppress their natural emotions and be miserable?

Quote: Metallo

Quote: torok

If you've got Christ's nature you would HATE the things that God hates and love the things that God loves. God loves people, but hates what they do. You don't know what God wouldn't do, He was punishing His own son, who knew no sin, at the cross because He chose to become sin.

If they turn away completely then God's gonna help them and forgive them if they sin and ask for it. We can't control our temptations but we can choose to say no to them.

1. It's a sin to hate, but God hates?

2. So someone is supposed to suppress their natural emotions and be miserable?

God hates sin, yes! It's ONLY a sin to hate people! Pick up a Bible and read it for yourself.

You don't have to be miserable. There is great joy in living for Christ, truly living. Yes you don't get to have fun with drinking, having sex all you want, but who needs that!? You can't do what the world does, but that doesn't mean you'll be miserable.

Oh no you didn't, you idiots.

Metallo, I dunno what the hell drove you into making a topic about this, but you sure didn't do a favor for this forum.
Sometimes I find myself wondering if you really have the objectivity and sensibility required for a long military career, the dream you so cherish and treasure. Pointless hating and insulting isn't going to get you anywhere, wherever you choose to go with your life.

Torok may be a christian, yes. A very devoted christian for that matter. It's her choice. She won't change no matter what you're going to say to her, and she's not going to be able to change you. Why do you feel the need to fight about it?
And are you really so butthurt because of other people's beliefs that you just had to make a topic to rouse more people into insulting her beliefs? Outside of the already existing arguments? Real classy.

I'm not saying I'm fine with the way she shoves her beliefs in our faces either, but this is like a gang of people pointing and shouting at this person who doesn't really hate or even dislike you. She just has a really different way of looking at things. If you don't like that, ignore her. It's that simple.

And If she crosses any boundaries or you think her posts are offensive, report her. There is an option to report people for hateful speech. Use it.
Then, if she happens to get suspended, good. She deserved it and maybe she will learn. If she doesn't, she wasn't breaking any rules to begin with and you need to deal with it.

All this homo-rage is pretty ridiculous too. Sue me if that breaks your heart.
She's not even trying to offend you, but you still find yourself unable to get past her words? It's just one person and her beliefs (which most of you claim to find utterly ridiculous and illogical), but still you're taking it like someone wanted to kill you for being homosexual. You are who you are and no torok will change that. Give it a rest.

tl:dr- Read the post you lazy ****.