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Lila-the-dragon Blue Sparx Gems: 752
#1 Posted: 00:12:38 04/05/2011 | Topic Creator
I'm just now playing Tos ANB, and i restarted. Im in the dojo. I just realized i still dont know who the dragon on the statue...thing...is. At first i thought "Malefor"...but hes ebil and the dragon is around eggs. Clue to the past...or a mother to the eggs? (Lol prob not)
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#2 Posted: 01:36:52 04/05/2011
It's Malefor.
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#3 Posted: 03:20:29 04/05/2011
Quote: AngelicBeast
It's [most likely] Malefor.


Fixed.
(And please don't bring up this debate again. smilie Optimist.)
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#4 Posted: 03:53:21 04/05/2011
It IS Malefor, as are all the statues. However, they're in ANB/TEN style, not DotD.

http://forum.darkspyro.net/spy...php?topic=38204


We don't know why he has two eggs at his feet. Perhaps to symbolize Spyro and Cynder's eggs.
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#5 Posted: 04:44:37 04/05/2011
Just sayin', the possibility it isn't him is still open... It could just be somebody who looks ironically similar. smilie
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#6 Posted: 00:50:34 06/05/2011 | Topic Creator
Thankies smilie
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#7 Posted: 05:46:25 06/05/2011
Quote: GamingMaster_76
Just sayin', the possibility it isn't him is still open... It could just be somebody who looks ironically similar. :P



Yeah, 'cause a random dragon that looks so much like the guy who wants to destroy the world makes complete and utter sense.
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#8 Posted: 23:50:31 06/05/2011
Yeah, It is definatley Malefor smilie
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#9 Posted: 02:12:55 07/05/2011
Why would they have a statue of Malefor in the temple?
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#10 Posted: 17:07:41 07/05/2011 | Topic Creator
Cause he was good at one time, and was a very important purple dragon, i think.
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spyroGalNicoleX Yellow Sparx Gems: 1582
#11 Posted: 13:15:40 08/05/2011
Quote: Fireball
Why would they have a statue of Malefor in the temple?


I guess he was idolised.

He was the first to harness such a vast amount of power and was therefore looked up to. He only turned evil when he relalised what such power could do.
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#12 Posted: 19:12:31 09/05/2011
It most likely is Malefor. But it could also be one of the ancestors or a purple dragon that lived after Malefor.
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#13 Posted: 21:20:46 12/05/2011
I can see the resemblance.
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#14 Posted: 22:49:50 13/05/2011
Honestly, I can't really see how the dragon statue in the Temple could be Malefor, it just looks different from him to me (looking at the statue of Malefor in the Mountain of Malefor here). He just looks different from that one to me...
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#15 Posted: 13:04:45 15/05/2011
It's a statue, it doesnt have to look exactly like him and I'm sure his design changed over the 3 games
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#16 Posted: 02:49:26 22/05/2011
Quote: Bolt
Honestly, I can't really see how the dragon statue in the Temple could be Malefor, it just looks different from him to me (looking at the statue of Malefor in the Mountain of Malefor here). He just looks different from that one to me...



Yeah I know how come the one in the statue at Malefors mountain have a scar on his eye and the one in the temple have a tooth sticking out? I never noticed Malefor having a scar over his eye or having a tooth sticking out (At first I thought that the dragon statue in the temple was Terrador smilie)
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#17 Posted: 02:53:48 22/05/2011
Actually, Bolt, it was confirmed that the statue in the Dragon Temple AND the Well of Souls was Malefor.

The one in the Dragon Temple showed him before his corruption, and at the one at the Well of Souls shows a more evil look to him after he turned evil.
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#18 Posted: 22:35:00 28/02/2012
It's Malefor.
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#19 Posted: 02:34:23 10/07/2012
I always assumed it was the chronicler, actually. I know he wasn't a charatcter in a new beginning, but I thought it was foreshadowing or something for the eternal night.
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#20 Posted: 02:42:34 10/07/2012
Makes sense it could have been a first Chronicler, even before the one we know. It does look very old, with the moss and whatnot. It annoys me all you people say "ITZ MALLFUR" and "KINDOM WAZ TEST TITLE" and shoot down any debate.
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#21 Posted: 02:17:48 22/07/2012
OK, I was just playing The Eternal Night a few minutes ago and I was in one of the dream levels where the Chronicler teaches Spyro the elements. When I was right outside the last room, where Spyro looks into the pool and talks to the chronicler, I saw two dragon statues, the same as the one in the dragon temple. There are the two eggs beside it and everything. This makes me think that it is actually a statue of the chronicler. Also, the company who made DOTD was different than the one that made ANB and TEN, and since neither Malefor or the Chronicler showed up in ANB or TEN, the statue wouldn't necessarily be Malefor just because it looks like him.
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#22 Posted: 08:36:16 22/07/2012
^ That leads me to think that this was either a young version of the Chronicler or the one before him, if have to go with the latter, because the current just doesn't share many similarities. There is also one in The Well of Souls, which if you follow this new theory, infers that it used to be a much more peaceful place as a simple mountain. If only the franchise had gotten more time.
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#23 Posted: 02:56:36 25/07/2012
it's malefor. the chronicler's horns/entire body are different and we see a similar (possibly the same) statue in the fortress later in eternal night. in dawn of the dragon, we know he was worshiped at some point, so the eggs may just be a symbol of him as a guardian (and a possible clue about what terrible thing he could have ultimately done that got him banished).
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#24 Posted: 15:08:05 25/07/2012
Oh, I don't even doubt it's Malefor, but why not theorise? What is it you people have against different thoughts? Spyro's Kingdom was never confirmed as the Skylanders test title yet you all solidly state it like fact. And again I said an OLDER Chronicler, there must have been one by TEN unless The Eternal Night Of Darkness counts as a new generation and I doubt the Chronicler from DoTD was a new one. I'm fine with you guys saying it's pretty much certain, but when you just try to shut down all other theorising repeatadley, that's outright rude, especially when the original questoner got answered.
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#25 Posted: 21:52:57 25/07/2012
if you want to start a topic for theories or fanon ideas, nothing says you can't, but this isn't a topic about either of those things.

the implications from dawn and eternal night suggest that the chronicler we see was malefor's teacher in life (and possibly an architect of warfang). in dawn it is stated that there are only two purple dragons: malefor was the first and spyro is the last. given what malefor says near the end, the implication is that the old world was destroyed long before his birth but had reached a state of corruption by his appearance that necessitated destruction again (this destruction was put off for a thousand years by malefor's imprisonment/death). an older chronicler would have been instated at the birth of the new world (the way ignitus was at the end of dawn) and it seems unlikely that anyone would worship such a figure so distant to memory.
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#26 Posted: 22:21:00 25/07/2012
The statue in the Dragon Temple is Malefor: http://soulfulsavage.blogspot....-once-more.html

"The image of the great Guardian statue above was an homage to Dragon culture in general, but more specificly a stately and regal representation of an actual ancient Dragon hero... the last Purple Dragon before Spyro's time. Indeed it was my intention to have this statue foreshadow Spyro's future, and set down a clue as to what he may even look like in the coming decades. From the very outset I wanted to portray what a fully grown adult Purple Dragon would look like, how it might stand and carry itself, and I pitched the idea that the statue itself was actually a representation of The Dark Master.... before he renounced the path of good. So you could say that right from the beginning, from 'the new beginning' we had already caught a glimpse of the Dark Master... I thought it a very fitting and 'full circle' type thing to do."
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#27 Posted: 23:58:25 25/07/2012
There's the proof... But I wonder why there was a statue of Malefor was in spyros dream.
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#28 Posted: 03:56:25 26/07/2012
jarred s. pollen is a very talented fellow.

from a cost-saving standpoint: krome probably wasn't able to build anything new for that.

from a story standpoint: faun always thought it was a hint that the chronicler was evil (faun still doesn't fully believe he isn't) and in league with the dark master. it could also be a warning, or spyro's subconscious filling his dream space with semi-familiar things.
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#29 Posted: 04:09:26 26/07/2012
Yes, but the original questioner has already moved on, so why not use this dead husk of a topic to theorise? And also, it is not the only time my thoughts have been "Nope"'d.

Quote: Aura24
The statue in the Dragon Temple is Malefor: http://soulfulsavage.blogspot....-once-more.html

"The image of the great Guardian statue above was an homage to Dragon culture in general, but more specificly a stately and regal representation of an actual ancient Dragon hero... the last Purple Dragon before Spyro's time. Indeed it was my intention to have this statue foreshadow Spyro's future, and set down a clue as to what he may even look like in the coming decades. From the very outset I wanted to portray what a fully grown adult Purple Dragon would look like, how it might stand and carry itself, and I pitched the idea that the statue itself was actually a representation of The Dark Master.... before he renounced the path of good. So you could say that right from the beginning, from 'the new beginning' we had already caught a glimpse of the Dark Master... I thought it a very fitting and 'full circle' type thing to do."


Well there you go. All you had to do was post that sooner. smilie

And even if it is confirmed, there is no reason you can't have fun and change it and see if in your own way to make things a bit more interesting. Why, this topic... It's inspired me to get back to writing fanfics! smilie
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#30 Posted: 04:55:51 26/07/2012
Quote: faunatic
it could also be a warning, or spyro's subconscious filling his dream space with semi-familiar things.

That's true. The statue was probably only in the dream because it was inside of the temple, and it would have been a very familiar thing to spyro since he lived there and might see it everyday. Also, the player would probably feel the same way, because they would remember the statue from the previous game.
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#31 Posted: 16:11:30 26/07/2012
Since Malefor was the first purple dragon, they were so amazed by him they made a statue of him before he became evil, obviously.

And don't fight me there, because it's obvious. I see it, and I don't care if you don't. It's so obvious. I bet even if you asked the creators, they'd say yes about it being Malefor before he became evil.
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#32 Posted: 19:25:06 26/07/2012
Quote: SpyraArtisan
Since Malefor was the first purple dragon, they were so amazed by him they made a statue of him before he became evil, obviously.

And don't fight me there, because it's obvious. I see it, and I don't care if you don't. It's so obvious. I bet even if you asked the creators, they'd say yes about it being Malefor before he became evil.


Agree, He was like a Hero before his corruption
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#33 Posted: 02:43:17 27/07/2012
Quote: SpyraArtisan
Since Malefor was the first purple dragon, they were so amazed by him they made a statue of him before he became evil, obviously.

And don't fight me there, because it's obvious. I see it, and I don't care if you don't. It's so obvious. I bet even if you asked the creators, they'd say yes about it being Malefor before he became evil.


Well, since it is Malefor, of course it would be before he turned evil, otherwise why would there be a statue of him? And in dotd it was said that Malefor was respected and looked up to at one time. In the ruins of warfang, you see where Malefor was trained, and Spyro said they had such high hopes for him.
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