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What would DotD be like if Krome had made it? [CLOSED]
Spyroo Blue Sparx Gems: 867
#51 Posted: 00:46:59 30/12/2010
I think for a finale, yes, it needed to be more darker. Honestly, DotD seemed way more of a kids game than ANB or TEN did.
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#52 Posted: 00:53:55 30/12/2010
^yeah, I agree! I mean how do you go from The Night of Eternal Darkness into somthing like that? I would imagin that the world would've been shrouded in darknss and such if the Dark Master had been out o his prison and free to do whatever he wants to.

I bet if Krome had done it we would have that story we are talking about!
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#53 Posted: 00:53:55 30/12/2010
If it was going to be called "The Darkest Hour" while Krome worked on it, I'm sure they were planning on making it really dark. I don't think that DotD seemed like more of a kids game though. ANB and TEN had way more humor in them, and character designs that appealed more to younger children, IMO. DotD was way more down to business, and it was more realistic style wise.
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#54 Posted: 01:22:50 30/12/2010
I bet if Krome made it, it would have been funny...
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#55 Posted: 10:03:37 30/12/2010 | Topic Creator
ANB and TEN were dark enough in terms of gameplay- sometimes I had to use my breath to see ahead of me!- so imagine what The Darkest Hour would've been like! But seriously, DotD was the most colourful in the series... Throughout the game, I just didn't see the 'destruction' and 'darkness' I expected to see. Why did activision hire EL over Krome in the first place?
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#56 Posted: 10:22:24 30/12/2010
I think I'm the only person who doesn't agree with any of these comments, lol.
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#57 Posted: 10:43:32 30/12/2010
That's understandable. smilie

Quote: TheWereCat
ANB and TEN were dark enough in terms of gameplay- sometimes I had to use my breath to see ahead of me!- so imagine what The Darkest Hour would've been like! But seriously, DotD was the most colourful in the series... Throughout the game, I just didn't see the 'destruction' and 'darkness' I expected to see. Why did activision hire EL over Krome in the first place?



Personally, I think they are stupid.
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SuperSpyroFan Diamond Sparx Gems: 9224
#58 Posted: 10:51:07 30/12/2010
I actually prefer EL.
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#59 Posted: 10:53:16 30/12/2010
I won't deny your opinion. I don't like them because they change Spyro, Cynder and Sparx from kids to teens.
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SuperSpyroFan Diamond Sparx Gems: 9224
#60 Posted: 10:55:57 30/12/2010
Quote: Bolt
I won't deny your opinion. I don't like them because they change Spyro, Cynder and Sparx from kids to teens.



I don't like the way EL did the story, but I think that the gameplay improved. Especially in the first three levels.
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#61 Posted: 10:57:46 30/12/2010
Yeah, the story was a big mistake. But yeah, the first three level's gameplay was great.
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SuperSpyroFan Diamond Sparx Gems: 9224
#62 Posted: 11:01:35 30/12/2010
Quote: Bolt
Yeah, the story was a big mistake. But yeah, the first three level's gameplay was great.



The first mistake would definitley be that they were trapped inside a mountain that completly caved in, and the next minute they are at some temple, how did the enemies manage to move that? And why would they move it anyway? I thought that Hunter would save them by opening the crystal himself. I think it would make more sense if that happened.
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Paplok Yellow Sparx Gems: 1754
#63 Posted: 11:35:02 30/12/2010
Quote: Spyroo
I think for a finale, yes, it needed to be more darker. Honestly, DotD seemed way more of a kids game than ANB or TEN did.


Maybe the environment was sweet, light, happy and childish, but Spyro was a real emo. Sad, weary, non enthusiastic at all.
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#64 Posted: 11:41:55 30/12/2010
Quote: SuperSpyroFan
Quote: Bolt
Yeah, the story was a big mistake. But yeah, the first three level's gameplay was great.



The first mistake would definitley be that they were trapped inside a mountain that completly caved in, and the next minute they are at some temple, how did the enemies manage to move that? And why would they move it anyway? I thought that Hunter would save them by opening the crystal himself. I think it would make more sense if that happened.



That's what I always though. ELB has made it so strange and full of plotholes...
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GamingMaster_76 Yellow Sparx Gems: 1271
#65 Posted: 12:05:03 30/12/2010
But see, Krome's sadly denied idea didn't nescicarily have to be the finale. Krome could have made it a quadrology and made Dawn of The Dragon take place AFTER The Darkest Hour(not in storyline, I think that would just be the name).
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#66 Posted: 12:22:19 30/12/2010
Yes, that could have happened, though I doubt they will come up with the name Dawn of the Dragon.
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Malefor0001 Gold Sparx Gems: 2365
#67 Posted: 13:00:40 30/12/2010
Quote: Paplok
Quote: Spyroo
I think for a finale, yes, it needed to be more darker. Honestly, DotD seemed way more of a kids game than ANB or TEN did.


Maybe the environment was sweet, light, happy and childish, but Spyro was a real emo. Sad, weary, non enthusiastic at all.


He just talked about how sad he was, how he'd failed, how everything was wrong. Just a downright Depressing character.
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#68 Posted: 13:01:37 30/12/2010
He seems like an emo to me (as others said before).
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TheWereCat Yellow Sparx Gems: 1000
#69 Posted: 15:25:01 30/12/2010 | Topic Creator
Actually he did seem like an emo in it... I never noticed that before! But it wasn't just him; all of the characters seemed to, I don't know, lose their spark. I blame the writers! But what did Krome mean when they say a 'darker' game?More death? Less Valley of Avalar?
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#70 Posted: 15:26:22 30/12/2010
LoS isn't even close to emo.....
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Cynder28 Gold Sparx Gems: 2731
#71 Posted: 16:13:02 30/12/2010
Well, it would have been better.Spyro wouldn't be pink.Cynder wouldn't be dark purple/deep blue.Ignitus wouldn't have his mouth too gecko-ish or too much realism.I don't know who wrote the script so...
Basically, the game could have been better and would have caused less drama.
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#72 Posted: 18:49:10 30/12/2010
Far from emo.. seriously.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#73 Posted: 19:58:03 30/12/2010
This is emo!smilie:
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#74 Posted: 20:43:42 30/12/2010
I'm not saying he is, I'm saying it seems. There are differences...
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#75 Posted: 20:44:22 30/12/2010
But he doesn't even SEEM emo....
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#76 Posted: 20:47:29 30/12/2010
Well, to me he does. That is my point of view...
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#77 Posted: 20:57:46 30/12/2010
No, it's a FACT that he's not emo. Emo is a term that has a definitive meaning and Spyro doesn't fit the meaning.
Here is the meaning, quoted from Urban Dictionary:
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Genre of softcore punk music that integrates unenthusiastic melodramatic 17 year olds who dont smile, high pitched overwrought lyrics and inaudible guitar rifts with tight wool sweaters, tighter jeans, itchy scarfs (even in the summer), ripped chucks with favorite bands signature, black square rimmed glasses, and ebony greasy unwashed hair that is required to cover at least 3/5 ths of the face at an angle
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#78 Posted: 21:00:12 30/12/2010
Okay, you can think whatever and I can think whatever. How 'bout we drop it?
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#79 Posted: 21:02:27 30/12/2010
I'm just saying that it's a fact he's not emo, as he doesn't fit the definition of emo, he hardly even resembles the definition, if at all.
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#80 Posted: 21:07:03 30/12/2010
Don't worry about it. I'm just saying he seems like an emo because he gets emotional sometimes...

Krome would have done a way better job at making DotD, or TDH.
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#81 Posted: 21:13:32 30/12/2010
But doesn't everyone get emotional? If you think Spyro is emo just because he gets emotional sometimes(he does it rarely, actually), you may aswell be calling yourself emo!smilie

As for Krome......I don't think they would DEFINITELY do a better job than EL, but they could. Although, I do prefer DotD to TEN.
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#82 Posted: 21:16:19 30/12/2010
I might be, my moods change so quickly but I don't cut myself and hardly ever cry.

I'd say they would. ANB/TEN are way better than DotD so I'm guessing it would be better if Krome made it. There wouldn't be as much plotholes...
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#83 Posted: 21:19:49 30/12/2010
You have mood swings because you are going through "the phase"!smilie

There is a chance there could still be plotholes. There were a TON of plotholes in Sonic 06....
Also, if Krome made it, we risk getting "more of the same but slightly better".
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#84 Posted: 21:27:14 30/12/2010
Maybe, but it happened all the time, even when I was five.

You love talking 'bout Sonic, don't you? But Krome making it has a lesser chance of having plotholes because they made the two previous games.
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#85 Posted: 21:30:12 30/12/2010
Yes, I do, but whenever anyone goes on about "terrible" plotholes in DotD, I feel obliged to bring up Sonic 06, for obvious reasons....
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#86 Posted: 21:32:48 30/12/2010
I'd probably be like that if I played a game like that.
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#87 Posted: 21:35:36 30/12/2010
I mean, the DotD plotholes aren't even that bad, and usually concern minor, pointless details. Sonic 06, however, has one plothole that erases the possibility of any Sonic game before it even happening!smilie
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#88 Posted: 22:32:56 30/12/2010
That must be bad. DotD's plotholes are bad, but Sonic 06's one makes it seem like a dot then!
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#89 Posted: 22:36:26 30/12/2010
Even without thinking of Soic 06, I don't think DotD's plotholes are that bad.
And Sonic 06 has a ton of plotholes....I can show you a video, if you like!smilie
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#90 Posted: 22:38:17 30/12/2010
I don't really care. But I myself think DotD's plotholes are bad.
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#91 Posted: 22:39:58 30/12/2010
I only think a plothole is bad if it makes no sense at all. I am able to make sense of the DotD ones, but the Sonic 06 ones? My head hurts when I think about them!smilie
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#92 Posted: 22:41:15 30/12/2010
By the sounds of 'em, they are bad! D:
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#93 Posted: 22:43:04 30/12/2010
But they are SOOOO funny!smilie
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#94 Posted: 22:43:34 30/12/2010
What kind of funny then?
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#95 Posted: 22:45:34 30/12/2010
Just stupid funny. Have a look(Commentators use explicit language):
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Spyroo Blue Sparx Gems: 867
#96 Posted: 23:04:49 30/12/2010
Although I do agree 06 was a shamble, again, I don't like comparing Sonic and Spyro.

Really, DotD is still full of plotholes, it's just many fans like to try and 'make up' the rest.
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7098
#97 Posted: 23:07:19 30/12/2010
I just use common sense. I find it an easily understandable story, albeit a gripping one!smilie
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Spyroo Blue Sparx Gems: 867
#98 Posted: 23:10:03 30/12/2010
Some of DotD can apply to that.... But things like them aging - It can't, unless you twist it a little.

The designers themselves stated they're still meant to be kids, so there's no real way of saying it was a cocoon, unless you alter it yourself. See what I mean? Much of DotD is like that, compared to the previous games where everything tied in.
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#99 Posted: 23:12:07 30/12/2010
Yeah, but if I'm honest, them being older allowed more gameplay possibilities, as well as them plain looking better(IMO!), so I am glad that plothole happened!smilie
(In my case, at least)
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Spyroo Blue Sparx Gems: 867
#100 Posted: 23:19:10 30/12/2010
Oh yeah, I see where you're coming from (you actually make sense with your reasons for starters). I prefer Krome's models and personalities for me, so it doesn't do me any favours smilie
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