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#101 Posted: 01:52:36 09/02/2018
Quote: ZapNorris
time changes people



Wow, so edgy. That makes you seem much more reliable and respectable.

Face it. No one knows what's going on.
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#102 Posted: 02:27:33 09/02/2018
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time changes people


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#103 Posted: 08:04:11 09/02/2018
Mobile game + skylanders academy season 3 is not bad for this year, let's see the good sidesmilie

I still think Skylanders console will return in some years, somehow.
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#104 Posted: 09:09:50 09/02/2018
okey so activision will revive another ip and the moblie game will come but other then that

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well atleast not big news.
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#105 Posted: 10:02:23 09/02/2018
Quote: Luminous35
it'd be nice if they'd actually give us info on the mobile game instead of constantly saying "its coming this year"...

anyway the franchise is dead, don't care if Academy and the Mobile Game is still coming. There's really not a lot of fans anymore.



mobile games is all about the microtransactions and loot boxes so acti can empty your wallets. because mobile games aint really games. they are more apps with paywalls.. so there you go, now you got your info.
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#106 Posted: 11:50:41 09/02/2018
CMB's usual foolish assumptions aside, Acti made bank with microtransactions alone. It makes no sense that they care so little about Com2us' title when they have nothing to lose by promoting it like any other game. How can you expect guilible kids to buy your thing when they don't know the thing exists, just like Battlecast?!
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#107 Posted: 12:37:30 09/02/2018
Quote: ZapNorris
oh hey guys guess who was right THIS ENTIRE TIME



Wait what

It literally says that the skylanders mobile game is still being made
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#108 Posted: 13:57:19 09/02/2018
Am I right in recalling that the mobile game is to be a turn based game? So one of those lame pieces of crap where you attack once and then stand there while the enemy attacks you and you keep going until one is defeated?
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#109 Posted: 14:40:31 09/02/2018
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Quote: ZapNorris
oh hey guys guess who was right THIS ENTIRE TIME



Wait what

It literally says that the skylanders mobile game is still being made



What mobile game?
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#110 Posted: 15:48:01 09/02/2018
Quote: Bifrost
CMB's usual foolish assumptions aside, Acti made bank with microtransactions alone. It makes no sense that they care so little about Com2us' title when they have nothing to lose by promoting it like any other game. How can you expect guilible kids to buy your thing when they don't know the thing exists, just like Battlecast?!


The fact that Battlecast bombed so hard is what has me less than optimistic for the future of any attempt at a Skylanders mobile game.

And it wasn't just lack of promotion that killed Battlecast. Remember, it was promoted inside every Superchargers starter pack and even had a major cereal tie-in.

What killed Battlecast is Activision not realizing what made Skylanders popular, combined with being released on the downslope of Skylanders popularity. I'm not sure Activision *still* understands the magic of Skylanders and we're so far beyond the downlslope that it's a speck in the distance.

I could wind up being proved wrong - and I'd like to see the franchise be revived... I just don't see it in the cards with this one. The fact that Activision is farming the title out to some minor South Korean mobile studio with no real track record to speak of says a lot to me.
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#111 Posted: 16:01:22 09/02/2018
It was promoted MONTHS before actually coming out (Superchargers came out Sep 2015, Battlecast on May 2017). That's what killed it. They stopped every attempt at marketing after the open beta on Australia, and then got surprised no one remembered the game by release - and most likely deleted the Cards to Life demo after their bonuses were up and no game showed up.

On the Com2us game, if it's anything like Summoners War, it'll be turn based. It's not as excruciatingly slow though, you can speed up battles so it looks like everyone is slapping enemies super quick until they die.
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#112 Posted: 17:34:16 09/02/2018
Quote: Bifrost

On the Com2us game, if it's anything like Summoners War, it'll be turn based.


I am bit positive they did a online action RPG "Soul Seeker" perhaps a reskin into a Skylander game could do a much better job.
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#113 Posted: 18:17:44 09/02/2018
a skylanders FEH reskin would be appreciated too

i can't wait to blow my life savings for a 5 star easter stealth elf with vantage 3 and perfect ivs
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#114 Posted: 18:36:33 09/02/2018
Quote: BOOMCAKE
Quote: Bifrost

On the Com2us game, if it's anything like Summoners War, it'll be turn based.


I am bit positive they did a online action RPG "Soul Seeker" perhaps a reskin into a Skylander game could do a much better job.


Never heard of Soul Seeker, what's the differences from Summoners War?
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#115 Posted: 20:51:21 09/02/2018
Quote: Bifrost
Quote: BOOMCAKE
Quote: Bifrost

On the Com2us game, if it's anything like Summoners War, it'll be turn based.


I am bit positive they did a online action RPG "Soul Seeker" perhaps a reskin into a Skylander game could do a much better job.


Never heard of Soul Seeker, what's the differences from Summoners War?


Honestly, I didn't play them. But just by watching gameplay videos.
Soul Seekers is a online action RPG similar like Diablo and Skylanders 1 with the option to play semi-automated PVP rounds, your hero team vs other hero team online. Is not turn based gameplay and has no city building from Summoner Wars that is the major difference between both.
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#116 Posted: 04:51:45 10/02/2018
Quote: Bifrost
It was promoted MONTHS before actually coming out (Superchargers came out Sep 2015, Battlecast on May 2017). That's what killed it. They stopped every attempt at marketing after the open beta on Australia, and then got surprised no one remembered the game by release - and most likely deleted the Cards to Life demo after their bonuses were up and no game show.



When was the cereal box promo? And the in-store displays? The comic fun packs that came with free cards?

I never played Battlecast - the idea of a game throwing out the thousands of dollars worth of toys I bought and asking me to buy trading cards instead (trading cards with very questionable trading ability at that) just didn't appeal to me - but, I get the impression there was a lot of issues in the development of the game and, mostly, it just wasn't very well received.

Again, I welcome them to prove me wrong and come up with a way to continue the franchise... but, frankly, let's be honest... the actual *gameplay* in the Skylanders series was never groundbreaking or anything. It was generally competent, occasionally awesome (the original 3DS launch title is still my favorite), occasionally not so awesome basic platformer gameplay with a dungeon crawler feel and some collect-a-thoning included. If the series hadn't (re-)invented the toys to life category and implemented it in such an awesome fashion, there's little chance the game would have really sold to the point where we got SWAP Force and beyond.

I just don't see a path for the series to really continue. Like I said, implementing the existing toys in a major fashion just isn't worth the development costs - and I think a lot of folks would see a new game that doesn't use all the existing toys as a no-go (remember how folks were upset that the accessory pieces and level unlocks did next to nothing as the series progressed? And how the vehicles were essentially only used for Superchargers? Imagine that, but for all 300+ toys).

This probably goes more in the 'What went wrong' topic, but, honestly, they messed up from the beginning. The number of toys didn't just kill our wallets, but it backed them into a corner where supporting them became such a double-edged sword.

Imaginators seemed like a swan song for the series from the outset, as supporting all the custom possibilities in future games would be a big investment. I sincerely wonder if they had started work on an Imaginators 2, but shuffled all that work into the expansions we got as DLC.
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#117 Posted: 05:17:52 10/02/2018
Quote: UncleBob
Quote: Bifrost
It was promoted MONTHS before actually coming out (Superchargers came out Sep 2015, Battlecast on May 2017). That's what killed it. They stopped every attempt at marketing after the open beta on Australia, and then got surprised no one remembered the game by release - and most likely deleted the Cards to Life demo after their bonuses were up and no game show.


This probably goes more in the 'What went wrong' topic, but, honestly, they messed up from the beginning. The number of toys didn't just kill our wallets, but it backed them into a corner where supporting them became such a double-edged sword.

Imaginators seemed like a swan song for the series from the outset, as supporting all the custom possibilities in future games would be a big investment. I sincerely wonder if they had started work on an Imaginators 2, but shuffled all that work into the expansions we got as DLC.



What I don't get about this is, if you're gonna kill a franchise, why release DLC for it?

I'm not saying this is a valid argument for why the franchise isn't dead at this point, but this is just plain stupid. It's not like it made all that much money.
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#118 Posted: 05:47:28 10/02/2018
They probably had a bunch of the development already done and figured they could sell some toys in the process to recoup some of their costs. Just a guess.
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#119 Posted: 12:56:30 10/02/2018
The cereal promo was after they laid off the entire staff and called the game done - there were only enough people to put less than half of the game's planned update(which were the cards in the boxes), and there were at least 30 cards that were never fully implemented because it got cut short. Even MORE if you count the cut characters that still have illustrations floating around in portfolios. We don't have an exact date of the layoff but someone in the Skylanders subreddit posted sometime later to give the bad news.

Battlecast was 100% Activision's failure, unless Beachhead Studios did something so egregious we never heard about it. They promised social media things, competitions, more coverage at events - none of that happened after Cards of Life ended. Worse, none of that happened BEFORE the game came out and there wasn't even a post about 'hey the game came out' until a WEEK after, when apps live and die off of word of mouth. Months of open beta were a nice addition, but clearly something the devs did on their own to try and push the game foward one last time, which didn't work.

Skylanders as TTL could survive - in the hands of someone more competent. As of now, with Acti, it can only survive without the gimmick, if at all considering they'd find another way to milk it to death again instead of, idk, making it a franchise that can stand on its own legs like everyone else.
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#120 Posted: 13:53:09 10/02/2018
okay, but we can now finally all agree on that the skylanders are done, and move on with our lifes and play other games. i know i will..
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#121 Posted: 14:51:26 10/02/2018
I know you won't as long as people are discussing it here and take your bait, stop lying.

There's still a mobile game even if Acti axes it 5 months in. It's not like I play a lot of games on my phone, wouldn't hurt to give it a try, even more if it has Hex/my other favs on it.

Also if I don't archive stuff for the wiki nobody will, as I saw with far too much stuff...
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#122 Posted: 21:06:23 10/02/2018 | Topic Creator
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okay, but we can now finally all agree on that the skylanders are done, and move on with our lifes and play other games. i know i will..


The Skylanders franchise definitely isn't done in every way, there will be another mainline game. When? 1 year? 5 years? 10 years? We don't know. There is no way to tell. Skylanders was once one of the biggest games in the industry, the last few games were no as successful (especially SuperChargers and Imaginators). However, these characters are recognizable now to millions of people and the brand, tens of millions. It would be stupid of activision to ignore that, one day these characters will come back to consoles, I have no doubt that of that. Take Doctor Who, it was cancelled in 1989 due to lack of viewers, in 2005 it began again and became more popular than it ever was. The same will happen with Skylanders. As for playing other games, Skylanders wasn't ever the only game I played as I'm sure it wasn't for many, it was purely a franchise that I loved to keep up on in terms of news and loved being a part of the community and still do. Right now I'm playing Xenoblade Chronicles 2, I, and many enjoy many types of games. Playing Skylanders doesn't mean you need to stop playing other games.
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#123 Posted: 21:41:24 10/02/2018
In case anyone had forgotten, they even had them in TV dinners. Not sure when they released those, before or after the Battlecast release date. I bought the Stealth Elf and Rollerbrawl ones for my collection but the dinners themselves were so awful. Eating the card itself would have been better tasting.
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#124 Posted: 03:19:10 11/02/2018
http://www.theinvestor.co.kr/view.php?ud=20180205000549

Well guys, I've narrowed down when the release date for the Mobile Game could be.

Quote:
Its stock price will begin to rise significantly from the end of the second quarter as it plans to launch a mobile version of “Skylanders” and “Summoner’s War” MMORPG in the latter half, forecast the analyst adding that its current stock price is still undervalued at 11.5 times its price earnings ratio.


It's either saying that the mobile game will release at the latter half of the second quarter or the latter half of the year. That means that at the absolute earliest, the mobile game will be releasing in Mid/Late May, and will be releasing with enough time left in the year to make an impact on Com2Us' profits.

Quote: Bifrost
I know you won't as long as people are discussing it here and take your bait, stop lying.

There's still a mobile game even if Acti axes it 5 months in. It's not like I play a lot of games on my phone, wouldn't hurt to give it a try, even more if it has Hex/my other favs on it.

Also if I don't archive stuff for the wiki nobody will, as I saw with far too much stuff...



God bless Legends of Skylands man. If it wasn't for that man we wouldn't have any of the Battlecast stuff archived as far as in-game effects and stuff go.
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#125 Posted: 21:57:13 11/02/2018
Quote: UncleBob
The fact that Activision is farming the title out to some minor South Korean mobile studio with no real track record to speak of says a lot to me.

I wouldn't say Com2us are minor, they are pretty successful with Summoners War.

Summoners War clears $1 billion in lifetime revenues three years after launch
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#126 Posted: 22:39:17 11/02/2018
Com2us is pretty big, though yeah they focus on few titles unlike King and whatnot(iirc there are a few bigger ones from South Korea). Beachhead Studios is the one that literally just does Activision games and nothing else. Or did, their site is currently down so I don't know if they just laid off the Battlecast team or everyone.

Bless Legends of Skylands indeed. 10 years from now someone will get super interested in researching the series, and if his channel stays afloat, these people will be in for a pleasant surprise.
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#127 Posted: 21:55:14 13/02/2018
http://forum.darkspyro.net/spyro/profile.php?user=15752

Oh shoot! Did anyone see that Chris posted a comment to his GB?

TFB working on something confirmed again
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#128 Posted: 22:14:26 13/02/2018
At this point, if V.V. are truly working on the Spyro remakes, my money is on TfB developing the seventh game.

No idea which other project they could have in ther hands, if not that.
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#129 Posted: 22:34:35 13/02/2018
just because TFB is working on something doesn't mean skylanders, people.
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#130 Posted: 22:47:06 13/02/2018
Quote: ZapNorris
just because TFB is working on something doesn't mean skylanders, people.



I know, I just wonder what else they could be working on. I don’t think it’s Skylanders but I’d love to see what it is!
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#131 Posted: 22:49:31 13/02/2018
Out of curiosity, what has TFB worked on besides Skylanders? smilie
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#132 Posted: 22:51:28 13/02/2018
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Out of curiosity, what has TFB worked on besides Skylanders? smilie



Star Control (1990)

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#133 Posted: 22:58:04 13/02/2018
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Quote: yelvy
Out of curiosity, what has TFB worked on besides Skylanders? smilie

Star Control (1990)

blind optimism is getting cancelled by ya boi smilie

Sure. Just wondering what they had done previously, so we might work out what they're gonna do next! smilie
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#134 Posted: 23:01:13 13/02/2018
Quote: ZapNorris
Quote: yelvy
Out of curiosity, what has TFB worked on besides Skylanders? smilie



Star Control (1990)

blind optimism is getting cancelled by ya boi smilie


Oh, the same Star Control which we know is currently being handled by a small part of their team? smilie

Blind pessimism is just as annoying as blind optimism, especially when there is no actual blind optimism to complain about.
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#135 Posted: 23:02:03 13/02/2018
Star Control was before Activision, I don't believe they own the IP anymore, Paul Reiche just got permission to create another from the current owners. They also did movie tie-ins before Skylanders, but dunno if they were shovelware-level. As of now, TFB seems to be Acti's child-friendly dev team along with VV and Beenox.
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#136 Posted: 23:06:40 13/02/2018
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It could also very well be a new IP.
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#137 Posted: 23:10:55 13/02/2018
Quote: Bifrost
Star Control was before Activision, I don't believe they own the IP anymore, Paul Reiche just got permission to create another from the current owners. They also did movie tie-ins before Skylanders, but dunno if they were shovelware-level. As of now, TFB seems to be Acti's child-friendly dev team along with VV and Beenox.


Can only talk about the PS2 Madagascar game but it was really fun and solid, honestly pretty close to old-school adventure/platform games.

I agree, it’s either Skylanders or a new IP.
Donn’t see them touching any of their other previous property, unless it’s an even bigger Star Control entry.

And of course, assuming the rumors are true and they are not the ones behind the Spyro remakes, which would be sooooooo awesome it is probably not the case. smilie
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#138 Posted: 23:43:13 13/02/2018
Madagascar open-world game with all regions and all Pokémon please
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#139 Posted: 23:44:32 13/02/2018
TfB made the first two Madagasgar games and.....they were pretty good. Played them a ton as a kid.
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#140 Posted: 00:33:15 14/02/2018
Quote: ZapNorris
Quote: yelvy
Out of curiosity, what has TFB worked on besides Skylanders? smilie



Star Control (1990)

blind optimism is getting cancelled by ya boi smilie



Star Control wasn't very liked

Blindness in general being cancelled by ya boi
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#141 Posted: 03:02:46 14/02/2018
We don't know what it is. It's very possible that it's a Skylanders game, but you can't say for sure whether it is or not yet. All you can do is wait and see, so nobody should believe they already know the outcome yet.

...except Toys for Bob.
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#142 Posted: 04:23:19 14/02/2018
Quote: ZapNorris
Quote: yelvy
Out of curiosity, what has TFB worked on besides Skylanders? smilie



Star Control (1990)

blind optimism is getting cancelled by ya boi smilie



A new Star Control is essentially confirmed to be under production by a small team at TFB. Whatever they are hiring for is a AAA console game. Not saying it's Skylanders, but it ain't Star Control. I heard somewhere that one of the job listings said something about a "service related" game, whatever that means. I get the feeling that if it isn't Skylanders it's some other type of new genre of game that has never been seen before.
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#143 Posted: 14:58:38 14/02/2018
This much kind of confirms Skylanders to be "frozen" behind the courtains, with those "other ways to support it" being merch and a little more, as some of us have been stating since the beginning. With VV focused on remaking classic IPs and developing Destiny, adn TfB staff reduced and fragmented (most of the 'top staff' from Skylanders is currently "out of game", some of TfB staff is developing Star Control as a personal project, and the remaining is doing something in U4 we don't know about yet), it's pretty accurate to say that Skylanders is a franchise whose time is over, and now it's the time to welcome the new generation of stuff, these being mostly classic IP remakes (as a lot of people suggested also since the beginning).

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not being the kind of pessimistic jerk who's like "everything is over, I told you, you're dumb, buu, buu...", I'm just being realistic deducing a statement based on the facts we have. I'd really like another game, but let's be sensible, that seems highly unlikely.

Not bad at all, maybe they make another game in the future as a "filler strategy". In the meantime, we still have 7 console games, 4 handheld ones, and 300+ figures to collect and play. That's a pretty neat run.
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#144 Posted: 15:47:12 14/02/2018
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It could also very well be a new IP.


I doubt it will be a new IP. The days when they made new IP was back before Activision bought them, and only Star Control had any success (though The Unholy War and Pandemonium/Magical Hoppers were both a lot of fun, and The Horde looks like a pretty fun game despite its ridiculous live action cutscenes). Activision seems to mainly use smaller studios like TfB and VV to make games using pre-existing IP. Even Skylanders started off as part of the Spyro IP, remember. Less risky that way.
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#145 Posted: 15:52:37 14/02/2018
I hope it's a new Madagascar game. Makes sense too, once you think about it.
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#146 Posted: 16:11:48 14/02/2018
It can still be the remasters, too. Laura Kate Dale is trustworthy on her own, but the sources could always be mistaken on some facts. Though for a 2018 release, VV does make the most sense, TFB just doesn't have the size to rush a game out of the door anymore.
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#147 Posted: 16:21:50 14/02/2018
we're not getting a console game this year.
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#148 Posted: 16:31:19 14/02/2018
Quote: ZapNorris
we're not getting a console game this year.


Why don't you try your hand at a gaming rumors twitter if you're so sure. I'm sure Laura and Liam would appreciate some competition.
Acti could still **** out a game if they feel like one year's plenty to Guitar Hero Live this franchise. Should it happen if they didn't announce it at the fiscal year thingy, let alone still a TTL? Nooooo. Can it happen? Never say never, especially to AAA making poor decisions.
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#149 Posted: 16:32:16 14/02/2018
Guys, don't disregard my thought, please.
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#150 Posted: 17:03:16 14/02/2018
Dunno about a Madgascar game, man. The franchise isn't dead with Penguins around, but it doesn't feel like they'd get anything out of a new game.
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The original Peach form treatment.
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