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Spyro: A Fate Worse than Death [CLOSED]
CountMoneyBone Emerald Sparx Gems: 3170
#1 Posted: 13:55:27 15/03/2016 | Topic Creator



your thoughts on the matter?...
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#2 Posted: 15:25:04 15/03/2016
I don't even need to see the video to know the contents. Flamewar incoming if someone takes the bait.
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AdamGregory03 Gold Sparx Gems: 2156
#3 Posted: 15:31:07 15/03/2016
Quote: Bifrost
I don't even need to see the video to know the contents. Flamewar incoming if someone takes the bait.


I watched it, and it's really more about the Spyro series as a whole than it is about Skylanders.
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#4 Posted: 15:34:49 15/03/2016
I know that, I mean 'wah wah Spyro is dead why won't Acti listen to us' because surely we haven't heard this enough since 2009, even more from Classic genwunners.
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Aura24 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6561
#5 Posted: 15:54:54 15/03/2016
"Spyro isn't reposed! That means he's dead! Even though he's going to appear in the Skylanders tv series and has appeared a lot in the comics! Screw logic and common sense!"

"That pug of a "dragon" is NOT Spyro! Kill it with fire!"

"Let's keep harassing Insomniac to bring back Spyro, guys! Even if they didn't own Spyro to begin with! Our innocent baby Spyro must be brought back the way we want him to be!"

"Spyro died since 2000!" "No, he died since 2005!" "2008! Legend of Spyro was Spyro!" "No it wasn't! That Spyro was ugly!"
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#6 Posted: 21:10:40 15/03/2016
I just can't wait until the Ratchet & Clank PS4 game comes out and...

...Pisses off hardcore classic Spyro fans with an in-cutscene easter egg so blatant you'd have to be blind and deaf to miss it. XD
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#7 Posted: 21:31:44 15/03/2016
Wait,they had that before? Sounds oddly specific.
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#8 Posted: 23:08:40 15/03/2016
Ayyy Haedox is my favorite youtuber <3
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#9 Posted: 00:09:21 16/03/2016
Really?
CountMoneyBone Emerald Sparx Gems: 3170
#10 Posted: 01:03:52 16/03/2016 | Topic Creator
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Ayyy Haedox is my favorite youtuber <3



yes he is very good, thats one of the reason i posted this here. good to see others like his videos too smilie
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6367
#11 Posted: 01:31:41 16/03/2016
I would prefer Spyro continuing as his own thing (either Classic or LoS) but he's honestly got it much better than a lot of other "dead" mascots.

I mean at least Skylanders is a solid enough game. Not nearly worth the usual asking price but still solid games. And Spyro is fun enough to play as in the games.
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#12 Posted: 01:33:08 16/03/2016
Oh, I wouldn't say that, he'll get mad at the fact you put solid and skylanders on the same sentence, that includes SC.

Better than some forgotten long before them , at least. NiGHTs keeps living off of cameos for over a decade, and let's not get started with Conker.
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#13 Posted: 01:55:09 16/03/2016
Quote: Bifrost
Wait,they had that before? Sounds oddly specific.


Nah, it's new.

The same cutscene references Resistance and Girl With a Stick, so it's basically Insomniac poking fun at their history.
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AdamGregory03 Gold Sparx Gems: 2156
#14 Posted: 02:18:23 16/03/2016
Skylanders is honestly a better reboot than most reboot titles though, even if Spyro mainly was just used for advertisement purposes.

Remember when they tried to make Bomberman "next-gen and edgy?"
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#15 Posted: 02:38:41 16/03/2016
Quote: AdamGregory03
Skylanders is honestly a better reboot than most reboot titles though, even if Spyro mainly was just used for advertisement purposes.

Remember when they tried to make Bomberman "next-gen and edgy?"


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#16 Posted: 03:07:26 16/03/2016
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Skylanders is honestly a better reboot than most reboot titles though, even if Spyro mainly was just used for advertisement purposes.

Remember when they tried to make Bomberman "next-gen and edgy?"


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THERE WAS NO GAME CALLED BOMBERMAN ZERO



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#17 Posted: 08:11:15 16/03/2016
what i've learnt- spyro fans are never happy
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#18 Posted: 08:35:35 16/03/2016
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what i've learnt- fandoms are never happy


FTFY. If it grows big enough, it has a section where no one is ever pleased.
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#19 Posted: 08:41:50 16/03/2016
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what i've learnt- spyro fans are never happy


Like most Sonic fans.
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6367
#20 Posted: 15:12:50 16/03/2016
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what i've learnt- spyro fans are never happy


Like most Sonic fans.



Sonic fans have legitimate reasons to be unhappy right now given the last two major releases were a buggy mess that didn't even feel like a Sonic game, and a cheating F2P endless runner that was ORIGINALLY really good but got butchered with post-release updates that make the game literal Pay2Win.
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Aura24 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6561
#21 Posted: 17:25:07 16/03/2016
I mean, about Sonic's design, the game direction fans want the franchise to take. Literally if one side gets what they wanted, the other side of the fanbase will become displeased. And vice versa.
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#22 Posted: 18:26:12 16/03/2016
Quote: Aura24
I mean, about Sonic's design, the game direction fans want the franchise to take. Literally if one side gets what they wanted, the other side of the fanbase will become displeased. And vice versa.



Not really.

The design arguments are long gone, Modern Sonic is the core design and that's well settled into the fandom. People can still prefer one design over the other but nobody is arguing for it to be changed.

As for franchise direction, there is legitimate concerns about that across the board. People just want a consistently good game, at least, like Generations was.
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#23 Posted: 18:35:07 16/03/2016
You're looking at the best part of the fandom though. We don't mean just these people, we mean some kid who genuinely thinks S06 was the best game, green eyes and blue arms are the devil, and everything in between. Genuine concerns and mature opinions exist but unfortunately aren't alone there.
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#24 Posted: 19:31:54 16/03/2016
When everyone reacted to "Boom Sonic," they really did overreact. There's good reasons to not be very happy with the performance of the current games, but with the designs there isn't. A whole bunch of franchises has had it happen to them at least once or twice, yet there are always complaints. As we know, Spyro fans still complain about Spyro's appearance now, just like Sonic fans. Nobody seems to be able to agree on liking the same things. That to people saying that a game is horrible, just because of how a character looks. Which is one of the worst things to judge by, in many cases.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6367
#25 Posted: 22:29:24 16/03/2016
The problem is you guys are literally taking a tiny, not even that vocal minority (I've hardly seen any complaints about Boom designs beyond the initial reveal, which was justified BTW, because the initial promotional renders were horrible), and calling them "the Sonic fanbase", as if they represent the Sonic fan base as a whole. When that shouldn't be the case. People who are simply fans of the series shouldn't be lumped in with those who occasionally complain about something silly.

People need to stop acting as if the majority of the Sonic fan base is bad when we are way past that point, if we were ever even at it.
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#26 Posted: 22:34:14 16/03/2016
Well, it's a minority,but it's very vocal. That's the impression people get when they run into them since they might also bring it up where it has no place.
Same for Spyro fans. Probably most of them wouldn't bat an eye and just camly hope the games come back and care less about Skylanders,but we hear those that lash out like angry dogs at Spyro x Ember shippers, anyone who draws Cynder in the way of harm, and Skyro.
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6367
#27 Posted: 22:57:42 16/03/2016
For now everything you say is anecdotal though and doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme. I barely see any of the stuff you talk about and I know plenty of others don't see it either.

It's a minority that isn't even that vocal. Maybe you just hang around poor communities.
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#28 Posted: 23:51:46 16/03/2016
Probably. But on the Spyro fandom's case, aside from DS I've yet to see that good community. If it's not nearly dead it's full of genwunners.
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#29 Posted: 07:03:22 20/03/2016
Personally, I was sorely disappointed at the entire concept of Skylanders. Original Spyro was the best and Legend of Spyro was a nice change. But that's just my opinion. I wouldn't call Spyro "dead."


Quote: sonicbrawler182
Quote: Aura24
Quote: arceustheprime
what i've learnt- spyro fans are never happy


Like most Sonic fans.



Sonic fans have legitimate reasons to be unhappy right now given the last two major releases were a buggy mess that didn't even feel like a Sonic game, and a cheating F2P endless runner that was ORIGINALLY really good but got butchered with post-release updates that make the game literal Pay2Win.



aaaaaaaaaaand there's the unhappy sonic fan
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KnightArtorias Emerald Sparx Gems: 3331
#30 Posted: 19:45:27 24/03/2016
Fandoms are never satisfied. Doesn't matter how big the fandom is or how popular/unpopular the series is, you will never be able to fully please a fandom when it comes to...well any series. Tis why I despise most fandoms.
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#31 Posted: 23:04:31 31/03/2016
^ yes.

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Quote: Bifrost
Wait,they had that before? Sounds oddly specific.


Nah, it's new.

The same cutscene references Resistance and Girl With a Stick, so it's basically Insomniac poking fun at their history.



link to this? sounds entertaining.
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#32 Posted: 02:25:27 01/04/2016
Quote: faunatic
^ yes.

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Quote: Bifrost
Wait,they had that before? Sounds oddly specific.


Nah, it's new.

The same cutscene references Resistance and Girl With a Stick, so it's basically Insomniac poking fun at their history.



link to this? sounds entertaining.


Nope. Spoilers and stuff. You could, y'know, buy the game and see it for yourself. ~_^
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faunatic Yellow Sparx Gems: 1811
#33 Posted: 02:35:16 01/04/2016
no ps4. not curious enough to spend 500$+. link please?
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#34 Posted: 15:27:17 01/04/2016
https://youtu.be/3N47T5ohi_g?t=3677

I think that'll work? If not, it's 1 hour and 1 minute into the video.
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#35 Posted: 11:16:50 03/04/2016
I don't know if this can be considered "taking the bait" and I sincerely don't care that much, I simply want to express my personal opinion.

I am convinced that bringing back and trying to make it appeal to more/new customers is a much, much, much better fate for any character or series than simply forgetting it entirely.
I will never accept the idea that if I don't like a new version or game of a series I liked in the past then it's better if it was never made in the first place because it wouldn't be fair for the many fans who may appreciate it (and there are fans for every game, I'm pretty sure of that).

Would I like Classic-like Spyro games?
Of course.
Do I hate the new games simply because they arent't what I wanted?
Of course no.

In my opinion the only remotely wrong game in the entire Spyro franchise (oh, yes, Skylanders is a series with Spyro, not a Spyro's series so it doesn't count) is Enter the Dragonfly and only because it was rushed, buggy and could have been incredibly better then it is.

I think Crash truly suffered a sad fate, not because of the Titans' series but because there was nothing after that.
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AdamGregory03 Gold Sparx Gems: 2156
#36 Posted: 13:05:58 03/04/2016
^Yeah, it's funny how everyone's all like "OH MY GOD SPYRO IS DEAD" and yet still have hope for Crash, who really IS dead at this point, or might as well be.
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#37 Posted: 13:15:05 03/04/2016
When changes piss them off, people go "just let it die!" (refer to sonic fandom). When something has been dead for a while, people go "I wouldn't mind a reboot as long as it isn't forgotten...".

And this is why you don't try to please fandoms unless it's a good addition.
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#38 Posted: 13:23:26 03/04/2016
In my case I would love some compromize,kids can keep Skylanders but Spyro fan who are older,could get their own series but with plotline adapted to the teen mature audience,I m still confused why we don't have that and all dragons games are made for kids except if you re Divinity or Skyrim.In that way Spyro and Skylanders will finally be separated and no one younger will think that characters like Malefor,Cynder,Spyro and Sparx came from Skylanders,it came from Spyro the dragon,ps1 in 1998!Also,mature teen audience does not mean gory,I know some m rated games that are not.

Another fact,the cartoon will more than likely made for toddlers so like tlk fan for The Lion Guard you will get disappointed,they re will be repetitive plotline,lots of catchphrase,no fight,no one can die even villains,evil always lose,toyline who will ONLY focus on new characters so nothing for the Spyro characters or Giants dragons,they will get forgotten completely.In fact,actually I never saw any merchandizing for any characters from the Spyro franchise only for the humanoid Skylanders and the show won't change it.Remake the classic or Legend already!
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#39 Posted: 13:44:35 03/04/2016
The cartoon didn't even get a preview yet, let's not assume. Futurama's writer and MLP's writer combining ideas could be anything from comic level to weirder to Sonic Boom.
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#40 Posted: 13:54:07 03/04/2016
I think the cartoon could be fun and I really don't care if Spyro just stays with Skylanders. Activision clearly has a plan with this franchise and they're not going to be stopped.

And anyone who thinks Insomniac Games is stupid enough to work with ActiBlizz after the whole FUSE/Overstrike debacle with Electronic Arts needs to quit dreaming. There's a better chance Naughty Dog makes a Jak 4 in our lifetimes.
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#41 Posted: 18:59:07 03/04/2016
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https://youtu.be/3N47T5ohi_g?t=3677

I think that'll work? If not, it's 1 hour and 1 minute into the video.



haha that was great! thanks muchly for the link! almost makes this one want a ps4 now.
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#42 Posted: 20:06:58 03/04/2016
But A Hero's Tail was so good ;~;

I actually bought two of the three Spyro Reboot games and I just....It was just bash B the game and hope you don't die an unfair death. It was just really boring and way too weirdly hard especially early on

I think if they got the ORIGINAL Spyro team back they could do great things, just like the original Banjo Kazooie team is doing Yooka Laylee
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#43 Posted: 02:02:34 04/04/2016
I'm pretty sure the most important members of the original team are still at Insomniac Games. ^.^;
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#44 Posted: 02:49:00 04/04/2016
original spyro team was 12 people. not even close to enough to make a game today. most of them arn't in the industry anymore even. think ted price might be the only original spyro team member left by now and he runs a company, doesn't make games.
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