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PARTY PARTY PARTY YES YES THIS IS SUCH GOOD NEWS
maybe next they'll stop doing their ****ty ass shows
i hope all the orcas die off soon. as horrible as it sounds, they cannot be released into the wild because of how dependent they are on their trainers and the fact they need to be constantly cared for to avoid infection.
http://laist.com/2015/10/09/se...ission_vote.php

Good.

Not bad.

Though I need to wonder what they will possibly do for entertainment and enjoyment for customers if they also end shows with it. I'm aware the treatment of the animals is awful and really needs work, but would it just mean no more shows period? I don't think people would be interested in going to such an expensive place if there's not much flashy things.

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Not bad.

Though I need to wonder what they will possibly do for entertainment and enjoyment for customers if they also end shows with it. I'm aware the treatment of the animals is awful and really needs work, but would it just mean no more shows period? I don't think people would be interested in going to such an expensive place if there's not much flashy things.

The rollercoasters there are pretty good.

A step in the right direction~

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Not bad.

Though I need to wonder what they will possibly do for entertainment and enjoyment for customers if they also end shows with it. I'm aware the treatment of the animals is awful and really needs work, but would it just mean no more shows period? I don't think people would be interested in going to such an expensive place if there's not much flashy things.

Idk why they'd want to give money to a place like that anyway. They can find somewhere else to go >.>

^Do realize though that there are other aquariums.

And on the whole I talk about all aquariums, since if Seaworld's shows are banned the shows for other aquariums will likely follow suit regardless of how the animals are treated. How many people (without small children) really care to go to a place to only watch fish swim around? Yeah I'm cool with it and others here probably are too but we're likely a minority.

I am not trying to defend Seaworld's piss poor treatment of show animals in the slightest but more asking an actual question about what these places will do to attract customers outside of the aquatic life they already have.

I'm not involving myself into the SeaWorld controversy because I've heard really good arguments from both sides.

But honestly SeaWorld isn't even that great of a park, at least the one in Orlando. The food sucks, only a couple shows are good, and it's strangley dirty for a place that has a lot of water.

the rides are awesome though that's honestly the only thing i look forward to.

It's just the one in San Diego. Although this means that we'll have to masturebate the whales to collect the sperm even more.

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It's just the one in San Diego. Although this means that we'll have to masturebate the whales to collect the sperm even more.

yeah sadly
im hoping the orlando one follows in san diego's footsteps (probably won't but this is a huge step forward)

Well that's one thing the orcas won't have to worry about but that does not solve all the issues but still the situation is been fixed a little.

only the san diego park though.

wonder how they'll handle this once all their orcas there die.

make sea world san diego better and by that i mean add better rides, the place feels like a kiddy park.

With all the controversy about the Orcas, they'd be better off going in the direction their new Orlando coaster Mako sets out in, which is being a theme park, not an aquarium. With the Orlando park, even a world class zoo can't compete in the Florida market against the titans like Disney and Universal next door. No idea about San Diego and the others.

Also, just in case someone doesn't know, I'd like to note that the Busch Gardens parks are also under the Seaworld company.

i live near the san diego one, i can give reports on the ****iness of it all

That's honestly great news that are banned to have anymore orcas, but they are currently allowed to keep the orcas they have right now (until they die). As far as I read the article. But I hope the Orcas there die peacefully, since they can't be transferred to another area or be taken care of all the time.

As for Sea World's future. I kind of doubt they would change into a theme park or anything. If sales are so low, they might as well hang up the coat and quit of plotting to be a striving entertainment park. Since the animal abuse records and the film Black fish, I'm certain a lot of people get the clue that they are cruel people regardless of what they do to a park.

inb4 all the orcas die due to crappy as **** conditions and the whole park shuts down

I am sorry for being an orca info noob

But what is Seaworld DOING to them?

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I am sorry for being an orca info noob

But what is Seaworld DOING to them?

General animal abuse. Cutting their teeth down like trees, barely giving them their space required, putting them in hazardous situations. You know those types of things.

I feel like there's some guy out there really upset about this cause he liked to watch porn about watching people help whales masturbate

This world is messed up. Why make an animal do things it doesn't want to do? Might as well put humans in a cage and have people stare at them...... it's the same thing.

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I feel like there's some guy out there really upset about this cause he liked to watch porn about watching people help whales masturbate

it's a whale of a good time

the experience is killer

it'll make you orca-gasm too

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This world is messed up. Why make an animal do things it doesn't want to do? Might as well put humans in a cage and have people stare at them...... it's the same thing.

Wait, that's wrong?

oopsie daisy

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This world is messed up. Why make an animal do things it doesn't want to do? Might as well put humans in a cage and have people stare at them...... it's the same thing.

Some people believe that animals don't have feelings since they aren't as "intelligent" as us (either that or they just don't care), so they take advantage of that to gain a profit.

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This world is messed up. Why make an animal do things it doesn't want to do? Might as well put humans in a cage and have people stare at them...... it's the same thing.

Some people believe that animals don't have feelings since they aren't as "intelligent" as us (either that or they just don't care), so they take advantage of that to gain a profit.

I know that.

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As for Sea World's future. I kind of doubt they would change into a theme park or anything. If sales are so low, they might as well hang up the coat and quit of plotting to be a striving entertainment park. Since the animal abuse records and the film Black fish, I'm certain a lot of people get the clue that they are cruel people regardless of what they do to a park.

It isn't too far from what they are already doing though. They could definitely try to rebrand themselves as less of animal park and more of a theme park with rides based on the ocean. It may be too late to make any difference, but they can try.

I'm sure they'll close soon. They even show videos of how not to abuse sea animals, yet they're doing it themselves.

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I'm sure they'll close soon. They even show videos of how not to abuse sea animals, yet they're doing it themselves.

Honestly, I think they do that to cover thier bad caring towards their own animals.

why do you hate orcas :(

This is both good news and bad news

Good news: They can't breed their Orca slaves anymore
Bad news: This means they will need to capture Orcas instead

I can guarantee the Blue World project is cancelled in Florida and other Seaworld parks after this. There's no way they'll be spending even more money on a bunch of bigger tanks that will be useless in a couple decades.

I don't think they'd dig themselves into a deeper pit of controversy by capturing killer whales again. They still have a small shot at redemption in the eye of the public if they can think fast and make the right choices, but capturing whales would sink the already badly damaged ship.

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This is both good news and bad news

Good news: They can't breed their Orca slaves anymore
Bad news: This means they will need to capture Orcas instead

If you read the article it's not only that they can't breed more Orcas, it's also that they can't get anymore through other sources too. They cannot trade/sell/buy Orcas as well as breeding them.

I'm glad that happened. No more orcas.

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This world is messed up. Why make an animal do things it doesn't want to do? Might as well put humans in a cage and have people stare at them...... it's the same thing.

Pretty funny you say that since Orcas toss seals into the air and disable them so they can't get away for fun, pretty sure the seal doesn't want to do that.
It can be argued orcas aren't much better than humans.

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This world is messed up. Why make an animal do things it doesn't want to do? Might as well put humans in a cage and have people stare at them...... it's the same thing.

Pretty funny you say that since Orcas toss seals into the air and disable them so they can't get away for fun, pretty sure the seal doesn't want to do that.
It can be argued orcas aren't much better than humans.

I mean orcas do it to survive though

Humans just do it because it's entertainment

Nope,some other animals disable and maim for fun as well. Cats are an example, and I won't even go into dolphins.

But two wrongs don't make a right, abusing animals is never right,and even if they're the ones doing it, it's not going to make it okay.

^Exactly. Cats are goddam terrible for the environment and should have their population controlled. 41% of kills for fun.
"in the journal Nature Communications, cats kill between 1.4 billion and 3.7 billion birds and between 6.9 billion and 20.7 billion small mammals"
They shouldn't be let outside for this reason.

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http://www.wildlifeextra.com/g...da-cats.html#cr
http://www.livescience.com/266...ns-animals.html

Pretty much, I love kitties, but if they don't even eat two thirds of what they hunt, no, keep them at home or actually supervise them while they're outside like you'd do to a dog.

let it be known

that on october 11th, 2015

the populous of forum=22 complained how actual real-life cats are ruining the ecosystem


JUST

This is good.

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This world is messed up. Why make an animal do things it doesn't want to do? Might as well put humans in a cage and have people stare at them...... it's the same thing.

I know you're young, but still.

Sooo.. you're never going to go to a zoo ever again in your life? And I don't think humans staring at them was the problem here, SeaWorld has done much much worse than "having animals in cages".

I know. I just used that as an example.

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let it be known

that on october 11th, 2015

the populous of forum=22 complained how actual real-life cats are ruining the ecosystem


JUST

Face the facts.
overly obsessed cat lovers can never take them and come up with rubbish arguments.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...source=facebook

one of my cats goes outside


he's killed like 3 mice so far


yup

Never been to Seaworld... You have permission to crucify me.