darkSpyro

Please, this topic is designed to be serious and therefore should be. This event happened yesterday and my school has a very close connection with it.



News Stories:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/n...teenage-3615485
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-sco...w-west-27603034
There are other ones as well as these two.

EDIT: The death was not suicide, I have just learnt from some of her friends/other news stories.

Omg........ wow. It's horrifying that this kind of thing happens.

The reporting on this incident has been exceptionally poor (not you, I just mean the official news reports). It doesn't give much information on what actually happened, and focuses too much on random tweets. I think everyone who knew the girl would like some clarity on what actually happened to her, especially if that information could be used to help prevent things like this happening in the future. And looking at that photo of the station, it doesn't look very safe, the platform looks very narrow.

However, I do know what it's like to lose a classmate. One of my classmates was shot dead in my final year of school, which was just last year. He was born in Libya, and had gone back over to visit, and I think he may have been involved in some voluntary work while he was over there. Unfortunately, some kind of gunfight broke out and he was one of the innocents caught in the middle of it. Although I didn't really know the guy, it was still quite a shock.

So my sincerest condolences go out to you and all those effected.

This is why I always avoid suicide.

It's selfish and it causes pain to others.

i really hope no one will make an " i like trains joke" on this forum.
anyways, my condolences to her.

Thank you guys for commenting, its nice to see that people care about this incident and the people effected.

Best wishes go out to you and yours. So sorry to hear this.

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I have no words.

where i live right now, (at my apartment) its only been a year, but theres already been some shootings and a double suicide ( at my apartment) . I hate Florida

same here my condolences goes out to all who were affected

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Please, this topic is designed to be serious and therefore should be. This event happened yesterday and my school has a very close connection with it.

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Today, in high school, I learned that a classmate in my point class had committed suicide or been killed by a train in Whitecraigs Station, UK. I will not reveal her name in this topic, but if you really must, I will post a link to the news story. Everyone was shocked by it and several people ended up having to go to the Pastoral Support department to recover. We were called to an assembly in 1st period where we were told she had died. The headteacher explained the situation to the whole of the school and let us know that the local church would be opened at lunchtime to let pupils express their condolences for the girl. Everyone in NY year walked back in silence, almost nothing being said. Barely anything else was said afterwards and more pupils left to recover at Pastoral Support once the assembly was over. Work was kept to a minimum and friends of the girl and other pupils calmed each other down in the wake of the accident. It was certainly the last thing I expected to hear today, and possibly the most shattering news given to me in the whole school year. I have expressed my condolences on Facebook for the girl and hope her family and friends make it through these tough times.

News Stories:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/n...teenage-3615485
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-sco...w-west-27603034
There are other ones as well as these two.

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The reporting on this incident has been exceptionally poor (not you, I just mean the official news reports). It doesn't give much information on what actually happened, and focuses too much on random tweets. I think everyone who knew the girl would like some clarity on what actually happened to her, especially if that information could be used to help prevent things like this happening in the future. And looking at that photo of the station, it doesn't look very safe, the platform looks very narrow.

However, I do know what it's like to lose a classmate. One of my classmates was shot dead in my final year of school, which was just last year. He was born in Libya, and had gone back over to visit, and I think he may have been involved in some voluntary work while he was over there. Unfortunately, some kind of gunfight broke out and he was one of the innocents caught in the middle of it. Although I didn't really know the guy, it was still quite a shock.

So my sincerest condolences go out to you and all those effected.

That's awful.

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where i live right now, (at my apartment) its only been a year, but theres already been some shootings and a double suicide ( at my apartment) . I hate Florida

welcome to my world.

That's awful to hear My condolences. We also recently had two deaths in my school, both on the same weekend a couple of weeks ago, so we've been pretty shaken too.

I'm so sorry to hear that. My condolences.

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This is why I always avoid suicide.

It's selfish and it causes pain to others.

was that really necessary?
anyway, my condolences to those affected, it must be a horrible thing to go through

Police are treating the death as non-suspicious and are currently investigating Tumblr posts made by the girl minutes before the death. Just learnt it a few minutes ago and I failed to find the posts in question. Hopefully the British Transport Police investigation will shine some light on this incident.

My nephew passed away in the same way. My other nephew was on the firefighting squad that responded to the distress call. Things like this are never easy. Don't bottle it up inside. Talk about it, cry about it, let it out. It will get better. My condolences.

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This is why I always avoid suicide.

It's selfish and it causes pain to others.

Ok, I have a large problem with people saying suicide is selfish. What's selfish is making someone so depressed or angry to the point of making them want to end their lives. It does causes pain to others, but if they really wanted to then the people around the person shouldn't have caused her so much pain. It's not selfish in any way, it's an escape, a way out, and no it is not cowardly, it's not running away from your problems, it's getting rid of them the only way you know how - suicide. So don't ever say it is selfish, because it isn't. I'm willing to fight about this for as long as you want, it's not selfish. It does cause pain to others, but as I've previously stated: the people around the person shouldn't cause that much pain in the first place.

my condolences to those close to the victim

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This is why I always avoid suicide.

It's selfish and it causes pain to others.

that's nice that you can avoid it but people who do commit suicide are not doing it in a normal state of mind

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Quote: MoonHorizons

This is why I always avoid suicide.

It's selfish and it causes pain to others.

Ok, I have a large problem with people saying suicide is selfish. What's selfish is making someone so depressed or angry to the point of making them want to end their lives. It does causes pain to others, but if they really wanted to then the people around the person shouldn't have caused her so much pain. It's not selfish in any way, it's an escape, a way out, and no it is not cowardly, it's not running away from your problems, it's getting rid of them the only way you know how - suicide. So don't ever say it is selfish, because it isn't. I'm willing to fight about this for as long as you want, it's not selfish. It does cause pain to others, but as I've previously stated: the people around the person shouldn't cause that much pain in the first place.

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my condolences to those close to the victim

Quote: MoonHorizons

This is why I always avoid suicide.

It's selfish and it causes pain to others.

that's nice that you can avoid it but people who do commit suicide are not doing it in a normal state of mind

That's one thing I forgot when I made that post.

My bad there.

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This is why I always avoid suicide.

It's selfish and it causes pain to others.

Ok, I have a large problem with people saying suicide is selfish. What's selfish is making someone so depressed or angry to the point of making them want to end their lives. It does causes pain to others, but if they really wanted to then the people around the person shouldn't have caused her so much pain. It's not selfish in any way, it's an escape, a way out, and no it is not cowardly, it's not running away from your problems, it's getting rid of them the only way you know how - suicide. So don't ever say it is selfish, because it isn't. I'm willing to fight about this for as long as you want, it's not selfish. It does cause pain to others, but as I've previously stated: the people around the person shouldn't cause that much pain in the first place.

I've decided to change my thoughts now.

Even though suicide doesn't have to come from another person.

That is awful to hear, condolences to friends of the girl. ;n;

OMG I'm so sorry to hear that, even if I didn't know her. These things are always so sad.....

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Quote: MoonHorizons

This is why I always avoid suicide.

It's selfish and it causes pain to others.

Ok, I have a large problem with people saying suicide is selfish. What's selfish is making someone so depressed or angry to the point of making them want to end their lives. It does causes pain to others, but if they really wanted to then the people around the person shouldn't have caused her so much pain. It's not selfish in any way, it's an escape, a way out, and no it is not cowardly, it's not running away from your problems, it's getting rid of them the only way you know how - suicide. So don't ever say it is selfish, because it isn't. I'm willing to fight about this for as long as you want, it's not selfish. It does cause pain to others, but as I've previously stated: the people around the person shouldn't cause that much pain in the first place.

Exactly. Get severe clinical depression first then you can voice your opinion on suicide.

why would you post a serious discussion in stuff and nonsense?

........this is so sad.

I'm just lucky I haven't ever been around or near a death/suicide, but seriously, this is just terrible.

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Exactly. Get severe clinical depression first then you can voice your opinion on suicide.

Even though you think that, people are still going to have opinions about it, whether they have depression or not. Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts.

All opinions should be educated. Do you say a movie is terrible before you see it?

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All opinions should be educated. Do you say a movie is terrible before you see it?

Yes, but not all opinions are. And you can't really educate someone about suicide all that much, anyway. Unless they've actually considered suicide themselves, they aren't going to completely understand it, and when I say understand it, I mean knowing what is going through someone's mind when they are considering it. Not to mention every suicide situation is different. Like when joerox said "the people around the person shouldn't cause that much pain in the first place." Not every suicide was caused by other people.

And to answer your question: I usually base a movie on the trailer, if I see the trailer. That's why they're made, to show a little preview to those who may be interested. If you don't find it interesting, just don't watch it.

My question was rhetorical. Unless you are adamant in your ways, anyone can be educated.

Perhaps~

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why would you post a serious discussion in stuff and nonsense?

Because, when it matters most, people can shut up and be serious about something on S&N.

My condolences to friends and family of the girl.

I'm sorry for their lose. I hope the best. We had a kid commit suicide in my school once, although I didn't know him, his sister was in my grade. I believe that one teacher broke out in tears when they said it on the announcements so the principal stood in front of the door so no one could go in as the teacher cried.

On the note of the suicide discussion, I agree with joerox and Avatari. Although, to a point, It can be taken as selfish. When i say selfish, i mean that sometimes they can only feel their pain, their sorrow, and their worries. Thus, sometimes when they commit suicide, they aren't thinking of the people they will hurt with their death, heck, some will probably think no one will miss them or even celebrate their death...When people say suicide is the easy way out, I want to just rip them a new one right then and there. It is NOT, in ANY way, the easy way out. Do they actually think that killing yourself is easy? It isn't. They would love to have all their problems go away, not even commit suicide and live a happy life, but no, they are so overcome with pain and whatever they are feeling that the most logical way in their mind is to end their life. People often say to tell an adult and so forth, but not everyone thinks an adult will understand. It's not easy to admit how you are feeling, especially if you are at the point of killing yourself.