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#1 Posted: 17:34:11 23/11/2011 | Topic Creator
i noticed in one cut-scene ignitus said after cyners egg hatched she was currupt, but her egg was already black, what the heck, what element is that
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#2 Posted: 18:31:25 23/11/2011
Her egg was gray with black spots. Most people think she was a wind dragon because it's the only element she actually uses in the series (everything else is a dark power).
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#3 Posted: 12:48:33 24/11/2011 | Topic Creator
so was she made to be a special dragon(before malefor), like spyro but with wind
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#4 Posted: 19:14:37 24/11/2011
All the dragons in the temple were special (they were Guardians of the elements), so it's possible that all the eggs they were watching over were going to hatch into future Guardians. Cynder might have been destined to be a wind Guardian if Malefor hadn't gotten her instead.
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#5 Posted: 15:04:04 25/11/2011 | Topic Creator
oh.....cool
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#6 Posted: 03:04:30 27/11/2011
Quote: huge dotd freak
so was she made to be a special dragon(before malefor), like spyro but with wind



Quote: Razz
All the dragons in the temple were special (they were Guardians of the elements), so it's possible that all the eggs they were watching over were going to hatch into future Guardians. Cynder might have been destined to be a wind Guardian if Malefor hadn't gotten her instead.


I agree with both that Cynder had been intended to be a guardian dragon of the wind element, but only one question:
if she had been like the Purple Dragon Spyro or that of being a very special creature and then the wind would not only its unique element.
For you as smilie and operates four elements, fire is the principal, then to the smilie, the wind is the principal, but the other 3 spaces, which elements would you add? but Not taking intoaccount the elements of dark power.
My main thesis is that what would be the other elements of smilie without darkness?, Or just was meant to be guardian of the wind element? as well as smilie,smilie,smilie and smilie
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#7 Posted: 06:53:27 27/11/2011
^ since purple dragons are supposed to be the only ones who can master all the elements, cynder probably would have only had wind as a single element, just like how ignitus is only fire, volteer only electricity, cyril only ice, and terrador only earth
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#8 Posted: 20:03:10 27/11/2011
Yep, lemmingluv's got it right. Without the darkness (and it says this in the game itself), Cynder wouldn't have any extra powers besides wind.
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#9 Posted: 01:41:27 28/11/2011
Her egg was black because she is a dragon of black color... color does not equal evil/corrupt except to those of simple minds.
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#10 Posted: 02:07:07 28/11/2011
is it just me, or does anyone else think that cynder would make a better fire dragon? i mean her name corresponds, she does use fire when she's under the dark influence, but i dunno

Quote: Shrazer320
Her egg was black because she is a dragon of black color... color does not equal evil/corrupt except to those of simple minds.



^ that's kind of rude...
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#11 Posted: 07:16:06 29/11/2011
Quote: ArbiDragon292

I agree with both that Cynder had been intended to be a guardian dragon of the wind element, but only one question:
if she had been like the Purple Dragon Spyro or that of being a very special creature and then the wind would not only its unique element.
For you as smilie and operates four elements, fire is the principal, then to the smilie, the wind is the principal, but the other 3 spaces, which elements would you add? but Not taking intoaccount the elements of dark power.
My main thesis is that what would be the other elements of smilie without darkness?, Or just was meant to be guardian of the wind element? as well as smilie,smilie,smilie and smilie


My opinion and I agree with: lemmingluv and Razz.
Cynder have been an excellent guardian of the wind element, because if you look at DOTD, the 4 elements of it, 3 is only darkness: poison, shadow and fear, from which he had when he was in his power in ANB, and the Wind is the only one who is not.
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#12 Posted: 06:44:05 16/12/2011
Look, we understand now, better shut your mouth
quiet I just hidding, do not take it so personally. And thanks about smilie The Dragoness
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#13 Posted: 08:36:11 16/12/2011
There is no, you here again, though I also appreciate your opinion.
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#14 Posted: 01:21:14 20/01/2012
I think Cynder was meant to be a wind dragon, like many others, but when Malefor corrupted her, she got those dark powers. Since you can't see very well in the cutscenes, I think Cynder's egg was blue, because in DoTD she decomes blue-black, possible her original scale color taking some dominence over the darkness that dyed her scales.
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#15 Posted: 15:21:39 01/02/2012
if cynder really was supposed to be a great dragon / guardian, then ignitus would have hid her egg too, not only spyro's.
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#16 Posted: 18:44:20 03/02/2012 | Topic Creator
^ thats a good piont.
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#17 Posted: 23:06:52 03/02/2012
Not really. Ignitus could only carry one egg (or he panicked and only thought of the purple egg). I seem to be the only one who noticed that there were a lot more than just two eggs in there and that Ignitus especially feels bad about the loss of so many babies. Given that there were no female dragons anywhere in or near the temple at the time (or, as it happens, on the entire planet), the most logical assumption I could make is that the eggs in the temple were going to be raised as guardians. But LoS does have that asinine tendency to think that you're only special if you're born that way and you could never hope to earn or work your way toward being great at anything.
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#18 Posted: 06:56:46 04/02/2012
Well, in the very beginning, Ignitus does say it was the Year Of The Dragon.

So maybe those were the eggs delivered by the fairies as said in "Year Of The Dragon."
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#19 Posted: 18:13:21 05/02/2012 | Topic Creator
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Not really. Ignitus could only carry one egg (or he panicked and only thought of the purple egg). I seem to be the only one who noticed that there were a lot more than just two eggs in there and that Ignitus especially feels bad about the loss of so many babies. Given that there were no female dragons anywhere in or near the temple at the time (or, as it happens, on the entire planet), the most logical assumption I could make is that the eggs in the temple were going to be raised as guardians. But LoS does have that asinine tendency to think that you're only special if you're born that way and you could never hope to earn or work your way toward being great at anything.



no offense, but i think your wrong.
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#20 Posted: 18:42:05 05/02/2012
Cynder is a fire dragon.
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#21 Posted: 19:14:20 05/02/2012 | Topic Creator
how do you now that?^
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#22 Posted: 19:30:55 05/02/2012
She is using fire in the first game.
Her name means the burning ashes that's left after something is burned.
She came out of the lava just fine, and fire dragons are basically immune to lava... And DotD screwed her up making people think she is another purple dragon who can use wind.
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#23 Posted: 00:32:45 06/02/2012
Cynder was corrupted by Malefor, remember, Angelic? He gave her dark abilities, such as Fear, Shadow, Wind and Poison, and became powerful enough to capture the Guardians.

Still Cynder's real element is unknown and we will never find out about it since the LoS is over.
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#24 Posted: 00:44:18 06/02/2012
If the makers of the first two TLoS games made DotD, she would have fire I'm sure. That's what she uses in the boss fight against her. And again, only fire dragons can survive in lava... DotD has so many flaws, just being honest. I like the game it's desently fun to randomly fly around, but Ignitus... C'mon, really? If it were Terrador that would have made so much more sence, or Cyril. There are just so many things that don't make sense..
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#25 Posted: 00:46:51 06/02/2012
Shadow Fire was just one of her dark abilities, Angelic. Cynder's not a Fire dragon.
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#26 Posted: 00:49:56 06/02/2012
I don't believe it was "Shadow Fire" I remember her breathing normal fire at me when I fought her. And how could she survive coming out of the lava in ANB? Even Malefor wouldn't survive, and he was the Darkest of them in this series. There are multiple theories that people can think, I can still think and say my opinion. Sure, I don't have proof from the creators but this is what I've learned. And in TLoS series, dragons only had one element which were Fire, Ice, Electricity, and Earth. When DotD came, they wanted to give her new elements that went out of the story abit. Those were suppose to be the only elements for this series.
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#27 Posted: 00:54:21 06/02/2012
Just because she only breathed fire in ANB, it doesn't mean she's a fire dragon since she has other dark abilities besides just that one element. And she was enhanced by Malefor's corruption as well, which apparently made her hide invulnerable to lava.

But that's your opinion. We don't know what Cynder's real element is, unless you try talking to the ones who made the story of the LoS.
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#28 Posted: 01:04:22 06/02/2012
In TLoS series, each dragon had only one element. Being corupted by evil doesn't mean that she gained new abilites, since it was only shown in DotD which was made by different people who didn't follow the story. I still say she is a fire dragon because my own personal knowledge of dragons says that fire dragons are either black and red or are red and yellow.
DotD is what confuses so many people, because now she's a purple and pink dragon instead of her black and red colors from the first two. In DotD, just about everyone is weaker other than Spyro. Cynder can't go in lava without being burned in this game. She never had any of these abilites, the wind and poison or any of those in the first game when we fought her. She used fire, just fire.
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#29 Posted: 01:08:08 06/02/2012
The only known Fire dragon we know in the series was Ignitus, and he was red.

If other dragons survived lava, then I guess that would make them fire dragons automatically, right? Oh Terrador survived lava, he must be a Fire dragon instead of Earth. Wait, Volteer survived the lava, he must be a fire dragon too.

But that's your opinion, we don't really know Cynder's real element anyways.
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#30 Posted: 01:10:14 06/02/2012
Heh, I love how you're getting all mad and sarcastic over a simple conversation. Silly person.
But anyways, Volteer and Terrador did not encounter lava, and if they did they would have died. Cynder survived the lava, and she is a fire dragon. It's fine though, you can believe as you wish silly person :3
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#31 Posted: 01:15:43 06/02/2012
Please, if I was mad, there would be exclamation marks, silly Angel.

Besides, do you have any proof that Cynder was originally a 'fire dragon', besides the coming out of lava and the only Fire spewing from ANB?
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#32 Posted: 01:19:54 06/02/2012
Other than my knowledge of dragons from several books, nope. However, am I not entitled to my opinion and am I not allowed to share it with others?

Anyways, I still say she is a fire dragon. In this universe, wind isn't an actual element. And the Guardians stand for the four elements of the world.

DotD has screwed up a bunch of people's heads, my own friend in RL thought that Spyro and Cynder were both purple dragons because of the game cover and because she had multiple elements.
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#33 Posted: 01:21:24 06/02/2012
The story of Malefor's past in TEN mentioned him learning the element of Wind, Angelic, remember?
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#34 Posted: 01:23:00 06/02/2012
Did it? Can you show me a video? I remember it saying he learned Fire, but he wasn't a fire dragon, then he learned ice but he wasn't an ice dragon either.
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#35 Posted: 01:24:36 06/02/2012
Gladly. It's at 3:29.

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#36 Posted: 01:29:38 06/02/2012
Ah I heard it, muffledly because of the Chronicler's voice. I see your point, however I do still think she was/is a fire dragon. DotD changed her so much, she was a black and red dragon but then got changed to purple and pink, and they messed up her wing blades and her back spikes or "crest" as it's called I think. Originally, I think Cynder was meant to be a fire dragon. But when DotD came, then they made her into a wind dragon. That's what it sounds like.
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#37 Posted: 01:33:12 06/02/2012
They didn't say she was a wind dragon actually, it's just fan speculation there due to that element being all evil like Shadow, Poison, and Fear.
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#38 Posted: 01:35:24 06/02/2012
Honestly, she could've also been fear. Because I remember her looking down and roaring at Spyro in one cutscene which gave him a look on his face like he was about to wet himself.
In LoZ, there are enemies who scream at you and you stay there frozen in fear, it isn't a red aura like it is in DotD, but they still scare you.
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#39 Posted: 01:45:04 06/02/2012
That was because Spyro knew that Cynder was going to come after him, Angelic. That's not the Fear element.
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#40 Posted: 01:46:52 06/02/2012
It still could've been, because some of the elements changed alot when DotD came. Like Earth, he use to have this cool Earth Flail energy that comes out of his mouth, now he pukes up boulders. Fear isn't suppose to be a physical element that can be seen.
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#41 Posted: 01:51:46 06/02/2012
Who knows? DotD messed things up, since it was the producer's idea to change developers.
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#42 Posted: 01:53:51 06/02/2012
I seriously wish they never did change, it would've been interesting to play as cute young Krome Cynder, and they both probably wouldn't look so large, and Ignitus wouldn't look like Barney's brother. But oh well, right?
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#43 Posted: 02:00:03 06/02/2012
lol Yeah, Krome Studios were already familiar with the story of the LoS unlike Estranges Libellules, who were just handed the DotD project and were rushed.
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#44 Posted: 02:02:07 06/02/2012
Yeah, if they weren't so rushed.. Man, it honestly could've turned out better. It's cool that Ignitus became the new Chronicler, but how it happened.. Not so much. Although I can see Ignitus sacrificing himself for Spyro and Cynder to be able to save the world, but alot of people aren't liking how they had to ditch Sparx.. Spyro had always been an adventure of Spyro and Sparx, but then in the end of DotD it was Spyro and Cynder.. smilie
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#45 Posted: 02:19:15 06/02/2012
And it was all on Spyro's 10th anniversary.
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#46 Posted: 02:36:25 06/02/2012
Poor Spyro, he deserved much more than that 3:
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#47 Posted: 00:02:01 10/02/2012
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Poor Spyro, he deserved much more than that 3:



I'm with you on that one, They could have made Skylanders on the 10th anniversary but no. The had to only put the comment at the end of the last los game and leave it as a thank you note. Oh well looks like Spyro is doing better now.
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#48 Posted: 17:27:06 13/02/2012
On another saying.
When we first met Ignitus he talked to us about Cynder and the war. Alot of other dragons were shown in the tan/pastel storytelling images.
The thing is, We dont know if there were other guardians with other elements BESIDES the fire, electricity, ice, and earth generics.
Ignitus, Volteer, Cyril, and Terrador may have been the last Guardians that survived.

So, the statement that she is a fire dragon would be almost invalid.
Cynder is not letting a new color take over her scales in DoTD. The designers of the levels noticed that pure black would be a bit much since we couldn't see her in the Shadow Element action.

Since Cynder DID use fire in ANB, we could easily say that Gaul had no creativity. Cynder could also have been simply generic and the designers had no time to clarify anything.

Cynder may be wind after all. She may be Fire. But really now, Darkness skrewed her backwards and there's no real way to know besides trumping our way to Sierra and asking.

Another thing. Angelic, you said yourself that you read from BOOKS what fire dragons looked like. We are in SPYRO universe, not a NOVEL universe.
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#49 Posted: 05:57:53 14/02/2012
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Poor Spyro, he deserved much more than that 3:



I'm with you on that one, They could have made Skylanders on the 10th anniversary but no. The had to only put the comment at the end of the last los game and leave it as a thank you note. Oh well looks like Spyro is doing better now.


They could've made Skylanders, yeah.. But then the TLoS trilogy wouldn't be finished. I do wish that Krome had made it at least, I really loved that style it was cute to me. DotD Spyro and all of them look abit more realistic with the scales and the more realistic graphics, but it looks like they spent too much time on the level texture instead of trying to make the game better. I'd MUCH rather play a game that's fun but challenging that takes awhile than play a game which is a few levels and has the most amazing graphics ever.
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#50 Posted: 20:14:33 14/02/2012
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