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Here's a wack idea [Discussion]
BroGuy Blue Sparx Gems: 659
#1 Posted: 21:58:22 17/01/2019 | Topic Creator
What if the original PS2 Ratchet & Clank was given the Reignited treatment? I'm not counting the 2016 Reimagining, I'm talking all of the original levels, all the original weapons, and the original story. It would be awesome to see the originial R&C given the same love and care Spryo Reignited was.
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Sesshomaru75 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6008
#2 Posted: 22:49:22 17/01/2019
I'd rather them continue what they did with the 2016 remake, albeit a bit more inline with the original compared to the previous remake when it comes to story and levels. Gameplay should otherwise be like the 2016 remake and Future series, however.

We also have a Ratchet & Clank topic, btw, for future reference.
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BroGuy Blue Sparx Gems: 659
#3 Posted: 23:07:55 17/01/2019 | Topic Creator
Let's remove this thread then, my apologies.
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Sesshomaru75 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6008
#4 Posted: 00:14:08 18/01/2019
No, no, you're fine. ;; The topic's been kind of dead due to lack of meaningful conversation and thus buried as a result, so it's not an issue at all!
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#YangGang
Gharlant Green Sparx Gems: 479
#5 Posted: 05:35:46 18/01/2019
Yes please
Johnbonne Yellow Sparx Gems: 1093
#6 Posted: 07:20:39 18/01/2019
Is the remake so radically different that it'd be worth doing a more "traditional" remaster, in the sense of the Reignited Trilogy? Personally I'd find it a bit confusing.

I lean toward what Sesshomaru75 sort of says, but not as a pop at you, rather the idea of the conversation in general. It's hard not to say "there should be a remaster for [thing I like]", because there'll be a market for it and it probably doesn't cost a lot to make. I always point to the Legacy of Kai of all games getting a remaster. Who'd've thunk it?
BroGuy Blue Sparx Gems: 659
#7 Posted: 23:05:55 18/01/2019 | Topic Creator
Quote: Johnbonne
Is the remake so radically different that it'd be worth doing a more "traditional" remaster, in the sense of the Reignited Trilogy? Personally I'd find it a bit confusing.


Very much so. A whole bunch of levels did not make it in, the weapons from the first game were rarely if ever even used, the writing of the plot and character development are weaker in every sense and the soundtrack can be summarised as generic movie orchestra which entirely replaces the unique, jamming sci-fi funk of the original.
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Sesshomaru75 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6008
#8 Posted: 23:08:13 18/01/2019
I think the soundtrack of the remake is still good for what it is, just different. Makes sense given some of the songs in the Future series as well. (That said, I still prefer the original OST)

Some of the old weapons not getting used makes sense, given that the arsenal was meant to consist of popular weapons from the entire series and not just the first game.
A good few of said old weapons and gear wouldn't really work with Ratchet's modern gameplay style either, and to go back to that I feel would be counterproductive even for a remake.

People need to realize that it wasn't meant to be a remake in the same vein that N. Sane and Reignited were, but rather a remake more akin to what the Final Fantasy VII remake is trying to be. (Albeit not as drastically different)
Which is a good thing I feel, personally, as it allows it to feel more simultaneously familiar and newer than a typical remake would feel.

Personally glad that Ratchet isn't an unlikable asshole either, though I admit that Clank's own development suffers a bit for it. Drek is 50/50 for me, however. Everyone else I don't mind.
Nefarious' inclusion does feel a bit forced, but I feel like it makes sense given that the Blarg even in the original were presented as utterly incompetent. (Plus, I'll tale any excuse to have more Nefarious that I can get lol)

At the very least, I appreciate that the game is still rather lengthy, as some of the Future games felt a bit short. (Especially Into The Nexus, which I liked, but was disappointingly short all the same :/)
Overall I feel that the remake is better from a gameplay perspective, but weaker in other aspects. Still fantastic for what it is, however.
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#YangGang
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BroGuy Blue Sparx Gems: 659
#9 Posted: 23:41:48 18/01/2019 | Topic Creator
Quote: Sesshomaru75
People need to realize that it wasn't meant to be a remake in the same vein that N. Sane and Reignited were, but rather a remake more akin to the what the FF7 remake is trying to be.


I'm well aware is not a Remake, but instead a Reimagining that takes the original in a different direction. Hence why I'm saying what I am in this post. Ratchet and Clank 2016 is already out and has done it's own thing, and I feel after Spyro Reignited it's time for a proper Remake.


Quote: Sesshomaru75
Personally glad that Ratchet isn't an unlikable asshole either, though I admit that Clank's own development suffers a bit for it. Drek is 50/50 for me, however.


Ratchet being an asshole is the whole point of his character arc throughout the whole of the original game, where he developes into a more likeable individual. It's a lot better than him being a bland, uninteresting clean slate of a character the entire game.
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Sesshomaru75 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6008
#10 Posted: 00:22:30 19/01/2019
Quote: BroGuy
Quote: Sesshomaru75
People need to realize that it wasn't meant to be a remake in the same vein that N. Sane and Reignited were, but rather a remake more akin to the what the FF7 remake is trying to be.


I'm well aware is not a Remake, but instead a Reimagining that takes the original in a different direction. Hence why I'm saying what I am in this post. Ratchet and Clank 2016 is already out and has done it's own thing, and I feel after Spyro Reignited it's time for a proper Remake.


I mean, it's still a remake, just not the same kind as N. Sane or Reignited.

Regardless, a "proper remake" after 2016 would be jarring and counterproductive, imo, so I'm personally against it. More inline with the original? Sure. But completely different from how 2016 was? No.
(And if you're meaning to make a "proper remake" of the first game, to remake it again would be absolutely idiotic when the previous remake hasn't even been out that long :/)

Quote: BroGuy
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Personally glad that Ratchet isn't an unlikable asshole either, though I admit that Clank's own development suffers a bit for it. Drek is 50/50 for me, however.


Ratchet being an asshole is the whole point of his character arc throughout the whole of the original game, where he developes into a more likeable individual. It's a lot better than him being a bland, uninteresting clean slate of a character the entire game.


Personally I don't care if it was the "whole point of his character" or not, as he's still unlikable as hell. :/
Spyro in his first game was somewhat similar, but still likable. OG Ratchet is just an unbearable asshole, and is selfish to the point where I personally cannot tolerate him whatsoever.

He already felt very different in Going Commando, so I feel like making him more inline with how he is in the rest of the series makes sense.
Only downside is, as I said, Clank's own development suffers as a result, but I couldn't care less that Ratchet himself is different in of itself. :/
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#YangGang
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BroGuy Blue Sparx Gems: 659
#11 Posted: 01:00:31 19/01/2019 | Topic Creator
Quote: Sesshomaru75
Quote: BroGuy
Quote: Sesshomaru75
People need to realize that it wasn't meant to be a remake in the same vein that N. Sane and Reignited were, but rather a remake more akin to the what the FF7 remake is trying to be.


I'm well aware is not a Remake, but instead a Reimagining that takes the original in a different direction. Hence why I'm saying what I am in this post. Ratchet and Clank 2016 is already out and has done it's own thing, and I feel after Spyro Reignited it's time for a proper Remake.


I mean, it's still a remake, just not the same kind as N. Sane or Reignited.

Regardless, a "proper remake" after 2016 would be jarring and counterproductive, imo, so I'm personally against it. More inline with the original? Sure. But completely different from how 2016 was? No.
(And if you're meaning to make a "proper remake" of the first game, to remake it again would be absolutely idiotic when the previous remake hasn't even been out that long :/)


Not even gonna argue with that cause that's pretty fair lmao
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Sesshomaru75 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6008
#12 Posted: 01:07:05 19/01/2019
In all honesty, I think that I'd like to see a new game more than anything.
I'm not opposed to them remaking Going Commando and Up Your Arsenal as well (Albeit more inline with the originals than 2016 was, just not entirely different from it either), but a new game with a full budget would be nice.

Some of the more recent Ratchet & Clank games, 2016 included, haven't had full budgets for one reason or another.
In addition to that, the remake was the first game in a while where both teams at Insomniac worked together, but it still suffered from a smaller budget due to the movie.

So getting a completely new Ratchet & Clank game that has a full budget and both teams working on it would get me really excited, personally.
And, given how well both Ratchet & Clank 2016 and Spider-Man 2018 did, I feel that Sony would be stupid not to have Insomniac do so.
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#YangGang
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HIR Diamond Sparx Gems: 8725
#13 Posted: 03:22:26 19/01/2019
The whole thing about Ratchet & Clank 2016 was that it was, technically speaking, a movie tie-in game. In some respects, it was always going to be handicapped by virtue of being tied to the movie, which itself went through some radical changes from what I heard. If Going Commando got a remake, I imagine Insomniac would have much more creative leeway, as it wouldn't be shackled to a kids movie. <.<
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Sesshomaru75 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6008
#14 Posted: 03:29:04 19/01/2019
That is true, yeah.
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#YangGang
StevemacQ Platinum Sparx Gems: 6041
#15 Posted: 12:39:39 19/01/2019
I honestly prefer R&C3 to 2 but it has been a long time since we last heard of Megacorp but since Qwark's character is a bit different now compared to back then, I don't expect him to be a villain ever again so maybe Dr. Nefarious can still fit in somewhere. I hope Sony doesn't try to make another Ratchet & Clank movie and just skip straight to the game sequel, which mighn't even happen for a while because of how hot Insomniac's Spider-Man is right now and no other developer could do R&C justice right now.
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