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Reserved post.

Pokemonster topc begins anew
also reposting this. I'm curious on people's opinions


The more I think about, the less I think we're gonna get another Lycanroc.


Visually, Dawn and Dusk (The times of day) are every similar. For example, look at when the Lycanroc's use Shattered Storm Shards. How could you change Duskcanroc's sunset visually since a sun rise and sun set are very similar. Not saying that "Oh you can't make it different!" but more so Duskcanroc fills the void of that visual motif. Adding a Dawn form might be difficult to make it distinct.


Back before Duskanroc's reveal, SM's in-game data had files for 3 Lycanroc forms, not 4. I know they can add another, but why have the third and not the fourth?


Duskcanroc is likely this Gen's Lucario, with it being heavily promoted, even Ash having one in the anime. It's clear this is going to be the prime Lycanroc form. Introducing a 4th form would be too much and might not be able to find it's own identity.


Duskcanroc get's both Accelerock AND Counter. Yes, you could give G=Dawn it's own signature move, but it'd still be inferior since it likely wouldn't get Accerlerock and Counter.


I'd like another Lycanroc, but I feel like there's no need for another form.


Not to mention, as EZ said in the old topic, Duskcanroc is called Twilight Lycanroc in Japan. Twilight is a term for both sunrise and sunset.

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@HIHD and EmeraldZoroark

But Dusk Mane Solgaleo is called Twilight Mane in Japan, just as Dusk Lycanroc is Twilight in Japan

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@HIHD and EmeraldZoroark

But Dusk Mane Solgaleo is called Twilight Mane in Japan, just as Dusk Lycanroc is Twilight in Japan

Your point being?

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@HIHD and EmeraldZoroark

But Dusk Mane Solgaleo is called Twilight Mane in Japan, just as Dusk Lycanroc is Twilight in Japan

Your point being?

That you using this to disprove a Dawn Lycanroc makes no sense at all, it furthers the likelihood if anything

What is Dawn Lunalaa called in Japan?


I do see your point, but I don't think that alone furthers the idea with that alone, as I have other points as well.

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What is Dawn Lunalaa called in Japan?

Literally just Dawn Wings Necrozma. Japan seems to use twilight to refer to dusk specifically (Dusk Lycanroc and now Dusk Mane Necrozma), which makes sense given things such as Twilight Princess.

Makes sense, surprised Solgaleo got the name change though.

I can think of another reason why I don't think we'll get one.


I feel like we'd know it by now and since when we get the special Rockruff, it evolves into Duskcanroc no matter which game version. If we got another form, wouldn't it make sense to make it version exlusive? Like, make it the "Dawn" form for the event Rockruff in UM, while it evolves into the Dusk form in US? Hopefully I explained that one well enough. Introducing another form that won't be revealed until after the game's release, despite it's counter part being such a big part of USUM's promo stuff feels weird and doesn't seem very Game Freak-y.

Can't wait to not use Litten, Poplio, or Rowlette and instead use Rocke Doge (The event one) as my starter

debating whether or not to SR for a shiny litten in ultra moon

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debating whether or not to SR for a shiny litten in ultra moon

wait until we find out how long it takes from the last save to actually being able to find out if it's shiny or not

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debating whether or not to SR for a shiny litten in ultra moon

Don't. Shiny Litten is awful.

If you ever get bored of me constantly saying how almost nothing happens in the Sun and Moon anime, now you know how I feel.

Welp... that's it. Hatched a Smoochum tonight in Pokemon Go, and that was the absolute last thing I didn't have (apart from stuff not available in my country, unreleased stuff, you get it). Can't wait for Gen 3 to release, that's gonna be a blast.

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debating whether or not to SR for a shiny litten in ultra moon

wait until we find out how long it takes from the last save to actually being able to find out if it's shiny or not

Or do it now

*shrug*

Poster for Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon:

LILLIE HAS A POKÉBALL

SHES A TRAINER NOW

@HIHD about Lycanroc

tbfh I feel like Dusk has no identity of its own

I can only see it as Midday Form with Superior Form's mane

I'm not trying to bash it, I actually prefer Dusk to Midday Form, but it's an incredibly lazy cosmetic change and in an ideal world to me would have been the original Midday Form, it just isn't distinct enough (and changing its color is not a substitute to actually adjusting proportions, which Dusk does not do)

Also consider a potential Dawn form could just be secret for now and time-of-day dependent as IIRC they didn't mention Mega X or Y when we first saw Mega Mewtwo, they acted like it had one Mega, but I may be misremembering on that front

And on this subject can we get a Lucario equivalent that isn't another wolf/canine-type thing again thanks, I believe Gardevoir may fit the bill but that was four gens ago, and im struggling to remember one from gen 6 but to me it's Megacario (maybe it's actually Greninja? But that certainly wasn't the case until after he got popular already and I really feel Megacario was originally who they wanted to fit that bill given its significance in XY).

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@HIHD about Lycanroc

tbfh I feel like Dusk has no identity of its own

I can only see it as Midday Form with Superior Form's mane

I'm not trying to bash it, I actually prefer Dusk to Midday Form, but it's an incredibly lazy cosmetic change and in an ideal world to me would have been the original Midday Form, it just isn't distinct enough (and changing its color is not a substitute to actually adjusting proportions, which Dusk does not do)

Also consider a potential Dawn form could just be secret for now and time-of-day dependent as IIRC they didn't mention Mega X or Y when we first saw Mega Mewtwo, they acted like it had one Mega, but I may be misremembering on that front

And on this subject can we get a Lucario equivalent that isn't another wolf/canine-type thing again thanks, I believe Gardevoir may fit the bill but that was four gens ago, and im struggling to remember one from gen 6 but to me it's Megacario (maybe it's actually Greninja? But that certainly wasn't the case until after he got popular already and I really feel Megacario was originally who they wanted to fit that bill given its significance in XY).

It's generally considered that Greninja ins Gen 6's Lucario.

And true, Mewtwo X wasn't revealed til after from my memory, but Mega Mewtwo Y wasn't event elusive like Duskanroc is.


Also, as for the poster, it also has two new characters.

That poster just makes me laugh because of the American Kirby is Hardcore! vibes it gives off. Like seriously... even ****ing nice guy Hau is pissed in it. I guess USUM is going to be a darker and edgier SM? Which none of the trailers have implied in the slightest so far, aside from Necrozma (who frankly only loses to Giratina as a living embodiment of "obviously evil").

That said, I'm still super sad it doesn't look like Colress will factor into the story. You have merging Pokémon, he should be involved in some way, damn it! <.<

I have a theory that Lillie might be the new champion. It has like, no evidence behind it.

EDIT: Ash literally cheated in school and everyone is OK with it.

can we get a necrozma and kyurem cage fight

I see 4 new characters and they look familiar, like I've seen them somewhere before


Also
everyone's team so far? I might be using Rockruff (dusk), Pikachu (Original Hat), and idk for the rest yet.

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I see 4 new characters and they look familiar, like I've seen them somewhere before


Also
everyone's team so far? I might be using Rockruff (dusk), Pikachu (Original Hat), and idk for the rest yet.

Litten, Duskroc, the Celebi from the VC promo, and idk who else

The Ash's Pikachu event is starting today with the code PIKACHU20.

· September 19–25: Ash's Pikachu (Original Cap)
· September 26 – October 2: Ash's Pikachu (Hoenn Cap)
· October 3–9: Ash's Pikachu (Sinnoh Cap)
· October 10–16: Ash's Pikachu (Unova Cap)
· October 17–23: Ash's Pikachu (Kalos Cap)
· October 24–30: Ash's Pikachu (Alola Cap)

Check Serebii for movesets. Moves change to reflect what Pikachu knew in the anime during adventures in the respective region.

Please note, you can only get 1 Ash's Pikachu. You cannot obtain all 6 hat variations. So choose wisely!

The original series cap has always been my favourite, so I picked that one.

I found out the other day that the I Choose You movie will be showing at my local cinemas, so hopefully I'll be going to see it in November.

WELL LOOK WHOSE MAKING HIS ANIME DEBUT!!




COMPLETE WITH A TRAILER!

If someone actually screams "GET IN THE BAG NEBBY" pls link it, I don't have the effort to watch the s/m anime but I want to hear them acknowledge the meme.

THE BAG HAS BEEN ＲＥＯＰＥＮＥＤ

LUSAMINE SEEMS LIKE A NOT TERRIBLE MOM

Edit: My Ultra Moon team has been decided:
Rowlet: The shiny one, because sparkles. Also I really want to like Decidueye more.
Zorua: I'm gonna make this a tradtion: have a Zorua on my team whenever possible (even if I have to use Bank (unless Bank isn't available yet))
Rockruff: The event one. Duh.
Dewpider: I like this thing. Gen 7 has the best bugs overall
Stufful: I plan on catching a Jangmo-o later
Alolan Raichu: Surfboard Pikachu.

Plans change, so this might not be my final team.

well here's mine-

Litten (shiny if SRing wont be hell)
Rockruff (aka cheeto dog)
Stufful (wanna have a good bewear on my team)
Alolan Raichu (i didn't get mine until after i beat the game in moon so he'll be on my team in UM)
Cutiefly (gen 7 does indeed have best bugs)
Munchlax (this time, the thicc boi is done RIGHT)

@EmeraldZoroark: You shouldn't need bank this time, because you should be able to trade between USUM and SM.

@ anime stuff: D'aww, Nebby's adorable. It better have some super-adorable fluff with Snowy or I'm-a be a sad HIR.

Bank is faster though, and I don't need an extra Pokémon to trade.

So I did some thinking/planning and I think this is what my team is gonna be for Ultra Sun.

My planned team is Decidueye, Popplio, Duskcanroc, and a Shiny Male Salandit, so far.

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So I did some thinking/planning and I think this is what my team is gonna be for Ultra Sun.

Reveal Spoiler

what site did you use the make that?

^ Didn't use a site, just put it together myself on Keynote

If you wanted one of your team I could easily put it together for you, it only takes a minute

New video on Mantine, a new Ride Pokemon! It also discusses more new features!





Japanese version confirms a few more other new Pokemon

Ok, Mantine surf looks rad and OMG IS THAT ZORUA YEEEEEE

I spent like an hour trying to find out where Zorua in USUM. It's in the trainer school.

YOOOOOOOO HERACROSS AND DEDENNE

POKKEN DX IS AMAZIIIIING

looks like most of those new ones in USUM (dedenne, mareep, larvitar) appear on poni island, but from the backgrounds i think Tropius and Heracross appear early on in Mele-Mele, and Zorua in the trainer school.

Definitely gonna have a Heracross on my team.

I think Mareep appears in the ranch area. Would make a lot of sense.

Aww HELL NAW the new ones better not be confined to Poni unless they're switching island orders up on us. By that logic, if Riolu gets locked to the post-game again, I'm just trading one over from Sun because that was just a dick move, GB. <.<

Well...
Tropius is in a grassy area, no idea where.
Larvesta is in a cave, so could be anywhere
Mareep is probably at the ranch
Larvitar is in a cave too
Zorua is at the Trainer School. No I don't regret the research.
Houndoom and Manectric look like they're at the ranch too, but it doesn't make much sense since we have to consider the level they evolve at.

Edit: Just occured to me that the TCG might hint at what new Pokémon will appear. For example, there's a Zoroark GX card despite it not appearing in Sun and Moon.

Some of the challenges look different. Hope Mina's isn't a post-game one and is actually a real trial part of the story. Really hope Kiawe's is fixed because god that one sucked. Seems they might be trying to fix up the game and make it actually good this time. I'll still wait until it's out and I can see what all's changed before I think about getting it. Considering it's only been a year since SM came out, I somewhat question if they held back to have stuff to add in USUM which could be part of why SM feels so lackluster.

Surfing between islands sounds nice, and wave tricks is fine, but the point stuff with it makes it feel really gimmicky and why.

Surf board minigame?
Count me in!

HQ image of the USUM poster is here!