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#2151 Posted: 00:26:50 22/04/2018
Dang it will they get on and release the merch?!

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#2152 Posted: 02:18:08 22/04/2018
Quote: Drek95
Straight from Numskull’s site, definitely preparing for a future complete reveal:

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Judging by his paws this is the new Spyro model, which surprises me with how similar it is to its classic one in terms of silhouette.


Could be the new Spyro model that will be used on the remastered Spyro the Dragon box art as well. I remember last year Crash's was leaked about a month before E3.
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#2153 Posted: 03:28:56 22/04/2018
I'm playing Year of the Dragon again, and I noticed that it's Fluffy that leaves the portal into Sunrise Spring, but when I talk to her where the balloon is, her name is Cumulus.
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#2154 Posted: 08:06:16 22/04/2018
Quote: Hardback247
I'm playing Year of the Dragon again, and I noticed that it's Fluffy that leaves the portal into Sunrise Spring, but when I talk to her where the balloon is, her name is Cumulus.

Hmm how weird. I wonder if other characters get different names when arriving in the homeworlds.
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#2155 Posted: 08:59:39 22/04/2018
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Could be the new Spyro model that will be used on the remastered Spyro the Dragon box art as well. I remember last year Crash's was leaked about a month before E3.


Even earlier actually, as I’ve saved it in my iPad back in January.
It’s definitely possible, even if I’d expect Spyro to be in a more dynamic pose since this one is very similar to the current (placeholder?) one.

If I had to take a guess, seeing how this is a merchandise site I could see this being the silhouette of a smaller and cheaper statue, like the Crash one which got released with some copies of the N. Sane Trilogy if I remember correctly.
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#2156 Posted: 09:49:46 22/04/2018
Don't know if anyone has noticed, but on the old model of Spyro, on the tips of his wings he had claws, and on the new one he doesn't.
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#2157 Posted: 03:26:04 23/04/2018
Yeah I definitely think its the newer model. Spyro's wings look different and his spikes are also different. Original spyro had the first spike being the most pronounced and largest, while the new take on Spyro has the second spike being the largest. Also the horns are different and take after new spyro.
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#2158 Posted: 08:09:42 23/04/2018
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Yeah I definitely think its the newer model. Spyro's wings look different and his spikes are also different. Original spyro had the first spike being the most pronounced and largest, while the new take on Spyro has the second spike being the largest. Also the horns are different and take after new spyro.



Aww, he's a GOONRO isn't he?
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#2159 Posted: 09:16:11 23/04/2018
Quote: DarkCynder_543
Yeah I definitely think its the newer model. Spyro's wings look different and his spikes are also different. Original spyro had the first spike being the most pronounced and largest, while the new take on Spyro has the second spike being the largest. Also the horns are different and take after new spyro.


Still haven’t notices the difference in his crest despite all the time I looked at his two models, nice catch!
Yeah, between that, the wings’ spikes, the less pronounced and rounder claws and the longer and thicker horns I think it’s safe to say it’s the new model.

The question is, is it a promotional render or an actual figure...?
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#2160 Posted: 05:06:46 24/04/2018
Does Toys For Bob actually read this thread?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Spyro...dback_thread_3/
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#2161 Posted: 06:04:37 24/04/2018
Quote: Hardback247
Does Toys For Bob actually read this thread?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Spyro...dback_thread_3/


we don't know. we didn't know that Vicarious Visions read the r/Crash Reddit either but still made constructive criticism posts, which, as it turns out, they did read and confirmed. but the Crash community still posted, and their voices were heard. Toys for Bob could do the same, or they could not. and of course, they don't have to listen to every criticism, but its better for those to post than staying silent
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#2162 Posted: 08:02:44 24/04/2018
We do know they saw and liked cerain tweets regarding fans correction of colors, but this doesn’t necessarily mean they will listen to those critiques.
They even liked a post suggesting to call one of the NPCs Falcon McBob, or at least add the name in the credits.
They might have simply done that as a sign of appreciation of the fanbase’s passion.

I sure hope they’ll listen to some advice, especially because it would mean they may do the same for future games as well.
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#2163 Posted: 19:44:41 24/04/2018
I just realized something...

Buzz (Spyro: Year of the Dragon)
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Buzz (Skylanders: Trap Team)
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First Ember, now this? Coincidence? Maybe.
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#2164 Posted: 09:46:05 25/04/2018
New artwork via Numskull.

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#2165 Posted: 10:31:29 25/04/2018
Damn, he's a sweetie.
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#2166 Posted: 23:57:20 25/04/2018
ohhhh man that's precious
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#2167 Posted: 11:48:39 26/04/2018
Awwwwww! He looks really adorable! smilie
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#2168 Posted: 22:10:07 26/04/2018
I’m not a fan of that particular artwork, honestly.
Like his expression and how angular his wings look, but something about the lenght and width of his neck seems off.

No big deal, though.

Found an image depicting what looks like a Twilight Harbor’s lighthouse, posted on Twitter from TfB’s site:

https://mobile.twitter.com/kap...6492416/photo/2

Looks sweet.
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#2169 Posted: 22:21:26 26/04/2018
Is that Jacques on the other screen? It's a similar shape.
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#2170 Posted: 22:34:24 26/04/2018
I love how people are weirded out by the horns being rigged. Because squash and stretch is not a thing, nope
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#2171 Posted: 22:41:25 26/04/2018
Especially since Spyro running into walls will just look bad in the current graphical quality. He has to squash a little or it looks like he's bumping against rubber.

Assuming that's what it's for. Can you tell I'm really impatiently waiting for gameplay?
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#2172 Posted: 23:17:08 26/04/2018
Is there a proper screenshot of it? Id love to see how they rigged him. All i saw was two joints on the start of the horns and not the ends and if thats the case then the horns arent properly rigged.

A friend of mine praticed with free rigged dragons and they all had rigged horns and weren't even cartoony dragons. Since horns dont move its kind of a waste, but it does help with animation. Its conmon for dragons than they think. This is not ps1 era they need to deal with it.

Also as for that screenshot my only complaints are that I do feel that he looks awkard in that colour style there, but eh its only one image. I also want more of that 90s era grin than the cutesy look plz.
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#2173 Posted: 23:39:54 26/04/2018
Not sure if the model on the other screen belongs to Jaques or is a very simplified Spyro’s one.
Would somehow be inclibed to think it’s the latter.

I couldn’t be more grateful that we already got to see way more than what Crash and MediEvil fans saw when their remakes were announced, both in terms of trailers and promotional images, but I’m indeed eager to see the actual game in action.
Particularly curious to hear the sound effects and see the HUD, as I’m pretty sure we’ve yet to get a glimpse at both.
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#2174 Posted: 23:48:17 26/04/2018
Ok I saw the image. Its weird because the left image shows that only the start of the horns have joints but not the end of the horns. However the bottom image shows the joints. I understand having joints at the start and end, but having them in the middle like that image shows IS a bit strange actually. :/

But that is not really a concern of mine lol.
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#2175 Posted: 23:58:28 26/04/2018
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Honestly, I don't think those are joints/bones. Working with Maya, none of the bones ever looked like that mess of bright color... (Unless there's some wacky setting we were never introduced do). Looks a bit more like someone's making notes with the pen tool.

Bonus evidence to those not being bones: His crest doesn't have any, and it WOULD have, since we know it moves.
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#2176 Posted: 02:08:54 27/04/2018
They can be that colour actually. You can change the colours so they do look like that. Also there is a dot on the start of the crest but its hard to see very well.

Even if you were right, that doesn't change the fact they will eventually become bones. Its hard to tell but it does look more like controls for animation for me, and even if thats the case it doesn't change the fact that those placements are still where the joints are and the animation moves from them. :/
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#2177 Posted: 13:03:07 27/04/2018
Now that I think about it, it kinda seems like his horns are bent backward somewhat in this screenshot:

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I really hope they don't animate his horns like ears or something... That would be quite silly in my opinion. It almost seems like his horns are flattened in anger, like a horse's ears.
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#2178 Posted: 13:40:28 27/04/2018
I think it's just an expression shortcut like it's done in Academy, where his horns move ever so slightly to fit his pose or emotion but you can only tell by staring at their angle during the animation.
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#2179 Posted: 17:49:28 27/04/2018
I guess the horns will look much better during the actual animation than they do here in this screenshot.
Just think about certain Imaginators’ selfies with all the models stretching and getting deformed, even if it looks subtler here.

Changing topic entirly, do you think the majority of trees and bushes will be able to be burnt down just like the grass?
I guess it could work for the majority of bushes and small plants (especially considering their relative skill points).
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#2180 Posted: 18:49:16 27/04/2018
https://blog.activision.com/t5...r/ba-p/10719915

Nothing new specifically about the remake there, but they talk a bit about how the development is going.

Also, they're hiring QA testers. I know some people here did QA in the past so just a heads up.
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#2181 Posted: 21:42:28 27/04/2018
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“One of our creative goals going into this was to really honor and respect and stay true to that original experience,” Yan said. “So, what I think is going to happen is that if you played the original games, all of that muscle memory that was built into your hands and that controller is going to come back. You’re going to be able to feel the fluidity of Spyro running about, making his leaps, landing, and gliding in the exact same way you remember it.”


This.
This is what I wanted to hear.

Despite some artistic liberties the game looks fantastic, but the most important aspect is still the gameplay.
I’m still convinced muscle memory isn’t as important with Spyro as it was for Crash (same going for pixel-perfect level geometry, even if they are still aiming for it nonetheless) but the actual feeling of the various movements is fundamental.

Swimming has to feel fantastic! smilie
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#2182 Posted: 21:46:26 27/04/2018
I mean, even with 20+ years of 3D games, tons of games do fumble swimming to this day or avoid it with the excuse that it might not work out. If you want a game where you can swim, it better work.
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#2183 Posted: 21:53:14 27/04/2018
It seems like TFB are taking an opposite approach with Spyro than VV did for Crash. It seems like TFB want to make sure the gameplay is almost identical to the originals (with some updated controls, obviously), but VV took some liberties with things like hitboxes, Crash's jump arc, etc.
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#2184 Posted: 22:22:39 27/04/2018
Yeah, Spyro is probably the reason why I have such high expectations when it comes to swimming in videogames.
It being one of my first experiences with that mechanic was both a gift and a curse. smilie

Yup, they sure are aiming for the most faithful experience in terms of controls and gameplay, and they are also taking the reinterpretation route instead of trying to perfectly replicate the source material like V.V. did.
The outcome is going to be very interesting.
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#2185 Posted: 22:31:42 27/04/2018
Are we actually going to continue the TFB is gameplay>graphics and VV is graphics>gameplay thing from Skylanders? Wow, I just realized that.
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#2186 Posted: 00:33:19 28/04/2018
Oh my, I’m starting to do that involuntarily. smilie
To be honest I’ve always felt V.V. was generally superior when it came to every technical aspect, including gameplay, but I’m glad TfB is the one being creative with the remakes they are developing because I’ve always felt like their designs and ideas were the most inspired ones.

Anyway, I was watching the trailer for the umpteenth time and noticed a very nice detail: right after the montage with Spyro running through various levels, and just before he fights Toasty, you can notice the crystallized Nestor shaking in the background for a split second.
Glad they kept that animation and hope the sound will be just as spot on.
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#2187 Posted: 00:35:11 28/04/2018
I mean, we're not doing it, I mean the teams themselves. But we can't be sure until they actually show some darn gameplay.
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#2188 Posted: 17:14:21 28/04/2018
Yup, even though I think we already have a nice idea of how the actual game might look while playing thanks to the comparisons in the trailer with Toasty and Blowhard, at least camera-wise.

By the way, is this Sparx, Dragon Egg and Orbs statue common knowledge?

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All First 4 Figures’ products look fantastic so far, but I sure wish they’ll release smaller and cheaper figures in the future.
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#2189 Posted: 17:46:07 28/04/2018
I believe they were posted in another thread? Idk. That egg looks a bit rough, it's the same texture as the teaser egg.
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#2190 Posted: 23:27:49 28/04/2018
Gamestop Germany has a pre order bonus.
Spyro card set and a keychain.
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#2191 Posted: 23:30:36 28/04/2018
Here we go with the ****ing coins again

card set is a bit of a bummer, since it doesn't seem like the covers were remade.
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#2192 Posted: 23:57:40 28/04/2018
Not the kind of bonuses I’d like, and I’ll definitely be more cautious with them anyway after I misunderstood the N. Sane Trilogy’s ones.

I’m still unsure if TfB will remake the original covers like V.V. did, but the placeholder silhouette used by Numskull for their merchandise page is in the exact same pose of the Spyro the Dragon cover.
Would still have little nostalgic value as I’m used to the PAL ones.
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#2193 Posted: 08:49:53 29/04/2018
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Gamestop Germany has a pre order bonus.
Spyro card set and a keychain.
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Haha. And there they are. Just like last year with Crash Bandicoot. Nice

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card set is a bit of a bummer, since it doesn't seem like the covers were remade.


I wouldn't be too sure about that. Look closely. It's definitely not the same as the original cover.
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#2194 Posted: 09:22:41 29/04/2018
Nah, look at the eyes, the wings’ shape and the horns.
They might have been remastered (if possible) but those don’t look like they’ve been remade: unless they didn’t use Spyro’s new design for them which would frankly be quite odd.

Still, they might simply be placeholder images because not even GameStop received the remade covers yet.
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#2195 Posted: 09:55:49 29/04/2018
Maybe it’s the angle of the images, idk, but there’s definitely something off about them.

EDIT: I increased the resolution to try to get a better look and compare them to the ones posted on the Spyro the Dragon website. I’m about 98% sure those are the remastered covers.
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#2196 Posted: 11:14:27 29/04/2018
No those are definitely the original covers dude
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#2197 Posted: 11:19:54 29/04/2018
We've been over this before. The covers on the official website have been slightly altered. It's still the old covers, even including the rather aged backgrounds :c
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#2198 Posted: 11:29:28 29/04/2018
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Yeah, it's just the old cover with some color and resolution correction.
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#2199 Posted: 11:44:16 29/04/2018
They do have this to start from, in case they wanted to remake the covers:

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But I guess we’d see more of that around E3, possibly as the other two games get shown.
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#2200 Posted: 12:00:02 29/04/2018
You know what’s funny? Last year, when Crash’s remastered covers were leaked, I wasn’t convinced that’s what they were at first. I was proven wrong later on. If the total opposite happens this time with Spyro, I’ll never live it down lmao
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