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>.< first all the problems with channels like Nostalgia Critic and now LGBT+ related are being restricted?! COME ON YOUTUBE, a coming out video is not sexual. Same with videos on gender dysphoria and general gender topics.


And it's not a few videos, ITS A LOT!

Why do they never tell people anything!? Seriously, what's considered Restrict Worthy and what isn't? I am so lost...

its because youtube and its entire system is **** and we need a better alternative

The worst thing is that YouTube is restricting the wrong content while legitimately offensive content from terrible people like Keemstar and Alex Jones are left untouched.

I'm looking forward to The Great YouTube Migration.

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The worst thing is that YouTube is restricting the wrong content while legitimately offensive content from terrible people like Keemstar and Alex Jones are left untouched.

I'm looking forward to The Great YouTube Migration.

not to mention how horribly they treat content creators, especially regarding video monetization

and soon net neutrality will go bye-bye. small sites like this one will load like they're on dial-up while big guns like Netflix will go on as normal b/c they've got the moneyz.

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and soon net neutrality will go bye-bye. small sites like this one will load like they're on dial-up while big guns like Netflix will go on as normal b/c they've got the moneyz.

we dont know that for sure tho

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I love how youtube only responed when the lgbt community started making a scene about it. So much for an open platform to all.

t b c h.

though its to be expected, with how big their women's day celebration thing was, and how little they care about international men's day.

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I love how youtube only responed when the lgbt community started making a scene about it. So much for an open platform to all.

t b c h.

though its to be expected, with how big their women's day celebration thing was, and how little they care about international mens day.

Isn't everyday Mens' Day for men or is Mens' Day the name of a gay porn?

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I love how youtube only responed when the lgbt community started making a scene about it. So much for an open platform to all.

t b c h.

though its to be expected, with how big their women's day celebration thing was, and how little they care about international mens day.

Isn't everyday Mens' Day for men or is Mens' Day the name of a gay porn?

i think youre thinking of Mens Day, icelandic gay pornstar/rapper

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this is pretty bad, considering they did a big thing for LGBT support last year.

Internet freedoms being stomped down on (Net Neutrality) has been the internet since big corporations got a stake in the ownership of it. More so when America gave up something to do with it thanks to Obama. I don't quite know the exact details, but what he did with the internet really hurt the state of the internet for the everyday user.

YouTube doing this shouldn't be surprising after their announcement of YouTube 'Heroes'.

Isn't their entire system automated? Thats why this is such a problem right, because people get angry and then flag a video so their system decides that video must be bad so it reacts depending on how many flags the video gets?

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Isn't their entire system automated? Thats why this is such a problem right, because people get angry and then flag a video so their system decides that video must be bad so it reacts depending on how many flags the video gets?

the youtube system is really ****ed up
yes, a lot of it is automated, but theres also some portions of the system that are manned by people

the first of these people are "youtube heroes" who get actual money and rewards for flagging videos (think of like a moderator but with less power and does one thing and doesnt even do it right)

then theres the actual youtube employees, that answer to the stockholers
you see, the stockholders have this big vision that everything on youtube needs to be 100% kid friendly because little tommy heard the f-word in a markiplier video once, so now if you have anything that isnt kid friendly, you lose your ad revenue and/or get your videos and channel taken down
the actual employees dont give a single **** if the "heroes" flag your video falsely
they dont give a single **** if your channel or videos get taken down and youtube is your main source of income
they just ignore it until you scream it out on every social media platform, then because their reputation is damaged, they might help you

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The worst thing is that YouTube is restricting the wrong content while legitimately offensive content from terrible people like Keemstar and Alex Jones are left untouched.

I'm looking forward to The Great YouTube Migration.

I'll give you Keemstar but Alex Jones? I can't think of anyone who ever got offended at him and don't most people not take him seriously anyway.
Personal I don't think kids should be watching LGBTQ+ stuff anyway. I personal think it'll cause more harm then good on a child when there really young and may lead to bigger problems for the child in the future.
If teenagers have troubles with indenty and being transgender then how is a someone younger then 10 gonna handle it.

I think right around puberty is the best time to learn some basic LGBTQ+ stuff. HOWEVER restricted is for everyone under 18, which causes a problem.

Also it won't mess up a child's development, especially if we start with the main 4 (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) early on instead of later (like around puberty, btw when I was in 6th grade we actually did have a basic class on how babies are born. The school essentially gave us the talk)
So around 12 should be early enough to teach these kinds of things, just in time to nip puberty in the butt for transgender children. However if my hypothetical child says that she feels like a girl, or that he feels like a boy before then I am going to let them socially transition. I hate how I didn't start my transition earlier, as a child I had no clue why I felt that way.

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The worst thing is that YouTube is restricting the wrong content while legitimately offensive content from terrible people like Keemstar and Alex Jones are left untouched.

I'm looking forward to The Great YouTube Migration.

I'll give you Keemstar but Alex Jones? I can't think of anyone who ever got offended at him and don't most people not take him seriously anyway.
Personal I don't think kids should be watching LGBTQ+ stuff anyway. I personal think it'll cause more harm then good on a child when there really young and may lead to bigger problems for the child in the future.
If teenagers have troubles with indenty and being transgender then how is a someone younger then 10 gonna handle it.

I think right around puberty is the best time to learn some basic LGBTQ+ stuff. HOWEVER restricted is for everyone under 18, which causes a problem.

Also it won't mess up a child's development, especially if we start with the main 4 (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) early on instead of later (like around puberty, btw when I was in 6th grade we actually did have a basic class on how babies are born. The school essentially gave us the talk)
So around 12 should be early enough to teach these kinds of things, just in time to nip puberty in the butt for transgender children. However if my hypothetical child says that she feels like a girl, or that he feels like a boy before then I am going to let them socially transition. I hate how I didn't start my transition earlier, as a child I had no clue why I felt that way.

Don't get me wrong... I understand the sentiment, but I don't think we should be planting these seeds in young, impressionable children because it feels like forcing the gay or trans thing down their throats and they might get the wrong idea. Especially with all the unrecoverable damage done to people who transition.

Yeah, I remember someone talking(here?) about some crazy lady forcing nonstandard gender norms on their children and she pretty much got the opposite problem. It's better if you don't punish them if they feel like they don't fit as a boy/girl, but also give it time before actually telling them about this yourself if that's not a problem at the time. Let that for teenager years when the hormones go crazy and they start thinking about identity for real rather than "Jimmy at school said girls have cooties I want to be a guy".

Kids are really impressionable, seriously.I get scared seeing my nephews just take in whatever I say(no I don't try to make them believe in weird stuff) because I look so cool doing X.

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Kids are really impressionable, seriously.I get scared seeing my nephews just take in whatever I say(no I don't try to make them believe in weird stuff) because I look so cool doing X.

I would say I'm evil enough to use this to play with the kid's minds. I just say stuff that confuses them and they don't know what to think anymore. I don't know, it's funny how they get confused and try to find ways to get out of the conversation.

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wait what does the Q stand for in LGBTQ

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wait what does the Q stand for in LGBTQ

questioning or queer.

idk i assume its either one of those two

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wait what does the Q stand for in LGBTQ

questioning or queer.

idk i assume its either one of those two

doesnt queer just mean you're weird

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wait what does the Q stand for in LGBTQ

It means queer
Like gender queer for example

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I personally really don't like the Q being added to LGBT at all. It's no better than trying to reclaim the 'n' or 'f' words.

Well it could also stand for questioning *shrugs*, then there is also gender queer people.

it all stands for

Lets
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To defeat the huns

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it all stands for

Lets
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q?
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it all stands for

Lets
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Business
To defeat the huns

q?
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qdid they send me daughters when i asked for sons?

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it all stands for

Lets
Get down to
Business
To defeat the huns

q?
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Lets
Get down to
Business
To defeat the huns
QQ

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it all stands for

Lets
Get down to
Business
To defeat the huns

i cant believe im business

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The worst thing is that YouTube is restricting the wrong content while legitimately offensive content from terrible people like Keemstar and Alex Jones are left untouched.

I'm looking forward to The Great YouTube Migration.

I'll give you Keemstar but Alex Jones? I can't think of anyone who ever got offended at him and don't most people not take him seriously anyway.
Personal I don't think kids should be watching LGBTQ+ stuff anyway. I personal think it'll cause more harm then good on a child when there really young and may lead to bigger problems for the child in the future.
If teenagers have troubles with indenty and being transgender then how is a someone younger then 10 gonna handle it.

And yet it's okay to plant homophobia into children before puberty? Children may not necessary want to be like other boys and girls. Personally, I've always hated sports as a child even it's something boys are suppose to be into.

For that matter, LGBT content can be made kid-friendly as oppose violence 'cus children are exposed to a lot of violent content yet parents don't give a damn. That's messed up. Either let them watch kid-friendly LGBT stuff along with the violent stuff or don't let them watch ANYTHING violent.

Trying to protect children from LGBT content the definition of safe space.

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I'll give you Keemstar but Alex Jones? I can't think of anyone who ever got offended at him and don't most people not take him seriously anyway.
Personal I don't think kids should be watching LGBTQ+ stuff anyway. I personal think it'll cause more harm then good on a child when there really young and may lead to bigger problems for the child in the future.
If teenagers have troubles with indenty and being transgender then how is a someone younger then 10 gonna handle it.

And yet it's okay to plant homophobia into children before puberty? Children may not necessary want to be like other boys and girls. Personally, I've always hated sports as a child even it's something boys are suppose to be into.

For that matter, LGBT content can be made kid-friendly as oppose violence 'cus children are exposed to a lot of violent content yet parents don't give a damn. That's messed up. Either let them watch kid-friendly LGBT stuff along with the violent stuff or don't let them watch ANYTHING violent.

Trying to protect children from LGBT content the definition of safe space.

I'm really curious as to what you would consider "kid-friendly" LGBT content? Discussions about sexuality aren't something that you should impose on children any more than violence or political innuendos are.

Teaching tolerance of people who are different


One example for kids, teach them that some people have 2 mommies or even 2 daddies and that it is OK!
Or another, some children are born with a brain that doesn't match their body. For example, a hypothetical little girl named Samantha was born with a girl brain and a boys body.
(And you can show them Jazz's picture book she wrote to teach younger children about her being transgender)

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And yet it's okay to plant homophobia into children before puberty? Children may not necessary want to be like other boys and girls. Personally, I've always hated sports as a child even it's something boys are suppose to be into.

For that matter, LGBT content can be made kid-friendly as oppose violence 'cus children are exposed to a lot of violent content yet parents don't give a damn. That's messed up. Either let them watch kid-friendly LGBT stuff along with the violent stuff or don't let them watch ANYTHING violent.

Trying to protect children from LGBT content the definition of safe space.

I'm really curious as to what you would consider "kid-friendly" LGBT content? Discussions about sexuality aren't something that you should impose on children any more than violence or political innuendos are.

Teaching tolerance of people who are different


One example for kids, teach them that some people have 2 mommies or even 2 daddies and that it is OK!
Or another, some children are born with a brain that doesn't match their body. For example, a hypothetical little girl named Samantha was born with a girl brain and a boys body.
(And you can show them Jazz's picture book she wrote to teach younger children about her being transgender)

This reminds me of a story I heard, it was about this woman who was at a resturaunt and the waiter was telling her that the workers felt weird that someone who was truly a man, going to the woman's restroom. She was actually a human

Also note restricted mode is for anyone under 18, this includes high schoolers. At my high school they did have restricted mode set to automatic for the school wifi and it couldn't be changed.
I would not be surprised if other school wifi networks did the same

I honestly don't understand why everyone is still surprised. Youtube, realistically, has no competition. Youtube can do whatever it wants without limit or fear of losing profit. There is no one setting rules or limits for youtube to follow. If youtube suddenly decided that any and all swearing is banned and any video with it in there will be taken down, what would you do? Would you go to Daily Motion or somewhere else? No, most will still stay on youtube and if the content creators still want to make money, they will edit their content or create their own site like YMS. And youtube knows this.And it's hard to make youtube have competition as their platform is just so much better and wider than others that are currently active.

Vimeo has some issues with submissions I believe. Certain content just gets removed and they don't do a good job explaining why.
Maybe when Twitch's on demand videos actually get a decent player we'll have competition. As of now, at least youtube works 9 times out of 10.

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I'm really curious as to what you would consider "kid-friendly" LGBT content? Discussions about sexuality aren't something that you should impose on children any more than violence or political innuendos are.

Teaching tolerance of people who are different


One example for kids, teach them that some people have 2 mommies or even 2 daddies and that it is OK!
Or another, some children are born with a brain that doesn't match their body. For example, a hypothetical little girl named Samantha was born with a girl brain and a boys body.
(And you can show them Jazz's picture book she wrote to teach younger children about her being transgender)

Then teach them to think and be understanding, not that there are things which they must accept regardless of how they feel about them. I find it highly unnecessary to impose any kinds of views (religious, political, etc.) on children when they're still at an age where they will accept things without question.

You see, I understand wanting kids to grow up to think what you think, but the thing here is that they're kids. They are young, inexperienced and unable to come to their own conclusions. While I understand that they shouldn't be taught to be prejudiced, the same exact logic applies with teaching them to accept others without question. These things need to be off-limits to guarantee healthy development for children. It's not as if they will automatically grow to hate LGBT-people if no "correcting" steps are taken.

id kiss you for this, but thatd be gay and there are children here

hey you

Hi.
I had to come back, someone must think of the children as obviously no one has ever anywhere for any reason.