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The All Purpose Super Smash Bros Wii U/3DS Topic V4!
Mesuxelf Ripto Gems: 3666
#651 Posted: 22:55:45 10/02/2016
Quote: MugoUrth
Quote: HeyitsHotDog
Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?


Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.



Lol stop with your non-human fetish.
sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6276
#652 Posted: 22:57:43 10/02/2016
It's been discovered that Bayonetta has a weird bug where it's impossible to dash grab her from behind if she shields.

It's not game breaking by any means, just a bit stupid. But considering both her and Corrin have a few weird bugs like this, I'm inclined to think they were incredibly rushed compared to other characters. It would explain them being released as fast as they have.

Also on the topic of the current discussion, I don't have much to say, but I was on the side of Corrin being a bad choice for the final DLC before he came out, and the reasoning I had still hasn't really changed...but I ended up enjoying him to the point of wanting to make him my potential third best character (Cloud competes for that too). He's got a fun personality (can't say if he's legit interesting in his game, I've heard he isn't, but I won't be playing it for a while anyway), and he has some really interesting tools that feel distinct.

I mean yeah, I still would have preferred a character I have the ABILITY to really care about, let alone whom I already care about, to a character that won't be making his proper debut until a few months ahead, where I live. But I still feel like I got my money's worth with Corrin.

Bayonetta is perfectly fine and she got in fair and square through popular demand.
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#653 Posted: 23:01:14 10/02/2016
Quote: sonicbrawler182
It's been discovered that Bayonetta has a weird bug where it's impossible to dash grab her from behind if she shields.

It's not game breaking by any means, just a bit stupid. But considering both her and Corrin have a few weird bugs like this, I'm inclined to think they were incredibly rushed compared to other characters. It would explain them being released as fast as they have.



Not a bug, just some lower-to-ground characters have a problem dash grabbing from behind (when close) due to Z-axis legs. Same stuff happens with Mewtwo but one or two characters that have this issue with Bayonetta don't with Mewtwo. So.....not a bug
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sonicbrawler182 Platinum Sparx Gems: 6276
#654 Posted: 23:09:26 10/02/2016
Quote: I-Brawler
Quote: sonicbrawler182
It's been discovered that Bayonetta has a weird bug where it's impossible to dash grab her from behind if she shields.

It's not game breaking by any means, just a bit stupid. But considering both her and Corrin have a few weird bugs like this, I'm inclined to think they were incredibly rushed compared to other characters. It would explain them being released as fast as they have.



Not a bug, just some lower-to-ground characters have a problem dash grabbing from behind (when close) due to Z-axis legs. Same stuff happens with Mewtwo but one or two characters that have this issue with Bayonetta don't with Mewtwo. So.....not a bug



I've been told that literally every character in the game has this problem with her, though.

If not a bug, we'll just call it a "huge, unpolished oversight".

Though to be honest a lot of grabs don't work like they should in this game.
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pankakesparx456 Platinum Sparx Gems: 7014
#655 Posted: 23:15:05 10/02/2016
So has anyone noticed that wall-clinging is a lot easier to do now, or is it just me? I've been clinging a lot when playing as Bayonetta lately so maybe it's just easy to do it as her, but I also don't typically wall-cling when I play this game.
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#656 Posted: 00:40:33 11/02/2016
Quote: pankakesparx456
So has anyone noticed that wall-clinging is a lot easier to do now, or is it just me? I've been clinging a lot when playing as Bayonetta lately so maybe it's just easy to do it as her, but I also don't typically wall-cling when I play this game.



It's just flicking your analog stick left and right?
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#657 Posted: 03:04:37 11/02/2016
Quote: MugoUrth
If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.


They didn't take away Bowser or any of the non-human characters by adding these two optional DLC characters. There's not that much need to sell the game if you still enjoy it for the characters that already exist.

And if anything you can go online to the thousands that are currently bandwagoning the two and beat the **** out of them and let out that anger.
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#658 Posted: 03:48:35 11/02/2016
Quote: MugoUrth
If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.


Fite me on wii u.

i'm good with both.
MugoUrth Ripto Gems: 3234
#659 Posted: 15:53:20 11/02/2016
Quote: Mesuxelf
Quote: MugoUrth
Quote: HeyitsHotDog
Mugo, here's a question, who is your most wanted character for Smash?


Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.



Lol stop with your non-human fetish.



It's not a "fetish," dumb***, I'm misanthropic.

Quote: CAV
Quote: MugoUrth
If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.


They didn't take away Bowser or any of the non-human characters by adding these two optional DLC characters. There's not that much need to sell the game if you still enjoy it for the characters that already exist.

And if anything you can go online to the thousands that are currently bandwagoning the two and beat the **** out of them and let out that anger.



Like I told HeyIt'sHotdog, these type of characters PLAGUE videogames, and I play games like Smash Brothers to get away from these creatures. I don't care that they're optional, the fact that they're in the game at all, instead of putting even one more non-human in the game, is insulting enough.

Also, ZapNorris, I don't have a WiiU. And even if I did, I am not touching this game ever again.
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#660 Posted: 16:10:19 11/02/2016
Quote: MugoUrth
Quote: Mesuxelf
Quote: MugoUrth


Basically someone who's NOT human, for once. That's all I wanted was one more non-human. Wolf, K. Rool, Banjo, didn't matter. They just had to not be human, or at least a cheerful, whimsical human. I wouldn't even have been as offended if it was Rayman or Shovel Knight or the kid from Undertale or whatever. But no, we get THREE MORE edgy, overly serious with no personality humans to add to the 2 we already got in DLC, and the 10 to 15 we had in-game. And before anyone says (there's more non-humans), there isn't in videogames in general. Videogames are PLAGUED with characters like Corrin, Bayonetta, Solid Snake, Kratos, etc. THAT is why it offends me so much is because Cloud, Corrin and Bayonetta were ALL added only to satisfy the lowest common denominator.

And I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm mostly just ranting. I hardly even care anymore if people get angry, because it's their choice to get angry at me.

Also to I-Brawler, Corrin is a human who can turn into a dragon. A human who can turn into a dragon is STILL a human.



Lol stop with your non-human fetish.



It's not a "fetish," dumb***, I'm misanthropic.

Quote: CAV
Quote: MugoUrth
If ****rin and *****onetta are truly the last characters, then I'm considering selling this game. I was hoping maaybe they'd surprise us with a character that isn't ****y-*** overly serious, edgy, personalityless, human vanity porn, but that didn't happen. They basically ruined this game by adding a 6th ***-Emblem character and that overrated piece of **** from an equally ****ty and overrated franchise.


They didn't take away Bowser or any of the non-human characters by adding these two optional DLC characters. There's not that much need to sell the game if you still enjoy it for the characters that already exist.

And if anything you can go online to the thousands that are currently bandwagoning the two and beat the **** out of them and let out that anger.



Like I told HeyIt'sHotdog, these type of characters PLAGUE videogames, and I play games like Smash Brothers to get away from these creatures. I don't care that they're optional, the fact that they're in the game at all, instead of putting even one more non-human in the game, is insulting enough.

Also, ZapNorris, I don't have a WiiU. And even if I did, I am not touching this game ever again.



There is online on 3DS. This is just insane
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#661 Posted: 16:59:06 11/02/2016
Mugo... Don't you think you're being just a teensey bit unreasonable here...?
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#662 Posted: 20:57:35 11/02/2016
Quote: MugoUrth
I am not touching this game ever again.



lol ur loss, dude.
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#663 Posted: 21:42:01 11/02/2016
If you aren't touching this game again, then please leave this topic and don't come back. We're done dealing with your furry bs.
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#664 Posted: 23:29:13 11/02/2016
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I wasn't gonna reply to anything today on the site so I could take a break and focus on my studies, but you pissed me off to the Nth degree, so here we go.

Your ****ty definition of "personality" isn't what personality is. For the last goddamn time, your superficial opinions are just opinions. They aren't some holy truth and you aren't some preacher here to show us the word of the Anthro. If you would have actually PLAYED a single one of the games the characters you're complaining about, you'd see that they do have a personality, and the ones that have the best personalities are those with personal growth like Bayonetta, Snake, and Cloud. I'm not convinced you've played any of the games these characters are from, because, while I try to be open minded to other's ideas and opinions, your idea of what personalities are is just plain wrong.

Let's start with Corrin, my Smash main and a pretty good character. While they (using they because there's male and female options btw) don't grow a lot throughout Fates, but they're still an extremely loving and caring person. Corrin, depending on which version of Fates you play, either stays loyal to the core to the family that raised them, opens up their heart to a new family who loves them just as much, or runs away from the conflict, not wanting to hurt their loved ones. They're absolutely caring, especially with that last option. Now I will say that FE has too many reps in Smash, and as much as I love Lucina, we should take her out since she's a clone. I'd say take out Marth because he isn't interesting at all to me, but he kind of has to stay because he's granddaddy of FE.

Now while I love Street Fighter, I main Ibuki, so I haven't gone through any Ryu storylines personally, but I think I have the gist of his character. Ryu is kind of a strong-but-silent type, but because of his devotion to martial arts and fighting the world's greatest fighters, he maintains a respectful personality. While he trained, he was (and still is) very detached from modern culture, leading to some culture shock. He also is shown to hold the superheroes like Captain America and Spider-Man (two other very good personalities), in high regard. All the characters in Street Fighter are essentially cultural sterotypes, so it makes sense that the main Japanese protagonist would be the ideal martial artist in their eyes. Another level of Ryu though is his darker side, and he has a drive to win that can sometimes put him in a dangerous mindset, one that only his longtime friends like Ken, Gouken, and Rose can pull him out of.

Now those were character personalities that weren't too heavily embedded in their respective games, but now's the time when we get into the games that you obviously haven't played, because these characters have undeniable personality.

Snake has so much personality, but you blow him off for being overly serious. I'm entirely convinced you haven't played any Metal Gear game that has 3D graphics, because the Metal Gear Solid games are mostly about the emotional fallout of these events on the characters around Snake. The best example of him being emotional is in Metal Gear Solid III: Snake Eater, since the main antagonist used to be his trusted mentor, ally, and friend. When The Boss confronts Snake, he's wearing a bandanna that she gave to him, and she makes a comment about how he has an inability to get over the past. This all comes to a tipping point when he has to kill her, something he wanted to avoid, leading to him becoming her successor in a very bittersweet moment. On one hand, he triumphed, and became a leader, but on the other, he just killed the woman who taught him everything. Snake cared for her so much, that he arranged her funeral at Arlington National Cemetary in Virgina, a prestigious cemetery for elite and honorable soldiers, even though she betrayed him. He even puts a lily on her grave and pays his respects by saluting her grave. While the world of war hardened Snake, he's still vulnerable, he's still emotional, and that's something people with personalities have.

I'm still absolutely stunned that you think Bayonetta has no personality. of all the people on this list, she has by far the MOST personality, and the most character growth. Bayonetta is sexual and cocky, that's her thing, but it usually leads her into trouble. Over the course of her two games, she began as an Umbra Witch that didn't really care about anything other than finding out her past, but eventually evolved into someone who would sacrifice everything to protect her loved ones and the world that they live in. While she's still sexual and arrogant, she cares much more about helping people than she initially did. While it's still mostly for her personal gain, she's willing to help those she loves no matter the cost.

Now I agree that a character like Banjo should have gotten in (I would have liked an Inkling, but I'm certain since they're a kid AND a squid, they don't count to you), you are stuck in this ****ty and generally toxic mindset that every character that isn't a cartoon or an animal is a plague to gaming, movies, and basically entertainment in general. It's getting really old. People relate to people because people play video games about people, made by people and for people. I can't help but relate to the struggles of a human character like Cloud more than I do with Donkey Kong. That's just how it is.


First off, you're pretty stubborn (changed on request) if you think I've never played those games, despite saying over and over and over and OVER that I have played them WAY more than I want to just to shut people like you up. Also, my definition of strong personality is one that's unique, likable, and not overly edgy. The characters you mentioned, their personallities are NONE of those things, and they never will be no matter how many times you tell me to replay those ****ing terrible games.

So basically, Corrin is a generic Marry-sue/Garry-Stu. Because being "kind and caring" is nothing new, and it's not in the least interesting.

So basically he's about as wise as a stereotypical owl and as calm and collected as a cardboard box. Once again, his personality is neither interesting or anything new.

Once again, I have played ALL of the games, and what you mentioned, yet again, is INCREDIBLY generic, bland, unlikable, and cliched. Everyone gets sad at things. Everyone does things they don't want to. How is Snake any different from ANY OTHER ****ING CREATURE ON THE ****ING PLANET!?

Once again, Bayonetta is a generic Marry-Sue. Yes, she's the closest thing to having any sort of personality, but even SHE is incredibly cliched and unlikeable. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard the damn ****ing "dark character trying to discover their past" story, I'd be rich.

A big problem is that even when their actual personality is weak, more whimsical characters have visual personality you can NOT find in a realistic character. Like compare Banjo or Donkey Kong to an Argonian or Kajiit from Elder Scrolls. So yeah, don't think I'm only dissing humans: it's edgy/serious characters in general. Also, humans only want to play as humans because they are narcissistic and vain, and think humans should be the only creatures portrayed in any sort of good light, and those that think otherwise are scum. I relate much more to Donkey Kong than I do to a creature associated with the world's biggest problems.
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#665 Posted: 23:46:16 11/02/2016
MugoUrth, you know what... I agree with you in some ways. It gave me a sick stomach knowing that Bayonetta especially was in this game, but do you wanna know what I did? I waited until they came out, never bough them, because there worth less than whats to offer, and I beat the living daylights out of them on For Glory. I have my reasons to dislike the characters, but hey, its called Smash for a reason. I'm living up to that by smashing there teeth in, and I'm enjoying every moment.
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#666 Posted: 00:06:09 12/02/2016
Quote: MugoUrth
Also, humans only want to play as humans because they are narcissistic and vain, and think humans should be the only creatures portrayed in any sort of good light, and those that think otherwise are scum. I relate much more to Donkey Kong than I do to a creature associated with the world's biggest problems.


No, humans want to play as humans because humans are humans and humans identify with humans best because humans ARE humans. Simple as that.

You're human too, and you're just as "vain" as the rest of us whether you like it or not.
You're not special, you're not perfect, and thinking as such makes you narcissistic as well.

No one here is saying that only humans should be portrayed in a positive light, nor that someone liking non-human characters is "scum".
I have no actually idea where you're getting that from, and the fact that you think that is laughable.

I love characters like Banjo, Crash, Donkey Kong, and Spyro, and I'm certainly not the only one here that does.
That said, however, I like human characters too because they are easier to identify with because they're human just like me.

I don't care if you're misanthropic, I honestly don't, but you're acting like everyone here is against non-human characters when that simply isn't the case at all.
It's just that most of us don't mind, and some of us that do - such as myself - are still not going to make that big of a deal out of it because it's a video game.

Now, if you don't mind, please kindly leave this topic because we're all fed up with this BS of yours.
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#667 Posted: 00:07:14 12/02/2016
Fitting how Sess made the 666th post on here, lol.
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#668 Posted: 00:14:50 12/02/2016
Nobody could have put it any better, sess


also does anyone else have trouble fighting just certain characters? (for me its generally little mac and rosalina)
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#669 Posted: 00:47:33 12/02/2016
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First off, you're mentally challenged if you think I've never played those games, despite saying over and over and over and OVER that I have played them WAY more than I want to just to shut people like you up. Also, my definition of strong personality is one that's unique, likable, and not overly edgy.


For the last damn time, that is not what a personality is.

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The characters you mentioned, their personallities are NONE of those things, and they never will be no matter how many times you tell me to replay those ****ing terrible games.


Except they are.

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So basically he's about as wise as a stereotypical owl and as calm and collected as a cardboard box. Once again, his personality is neither interesting or anything new.

Once again, I have played ALL of the games, and what you mentioned, yet again, is INCREDIBLY generic, bland, unlikable, and cliched. Everyone gets sad at things. Everyone does things they don't want to. How is Snake any different from ANY OTHER ****ING CREATURE ON THE ****ING PLANET!?

Once again, Bayonetta is a generic Marry-Sue. Yes, she's the closest thing to having any sort of personality, but even SHE is incredibly cliched and unlikeable. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard the damn ****ing "dark character trying to discover their past" story, I'd be rich.


You're not even listening to a single thing any of us are saying about any of these characters.

Yet again you're just spouting "NO THEY'RE GENERIC AND BORING I'M RIGHT!!!" again. You haven't posted a SINGLE THING that proves ANYTHING you've said about ANY of these characters and completely ignoring the fact that we are giving you FACTS AND EVIDENCE about said characters.

Bayonetta is not a mary sue. A mary sue character is a character that is completely perfect and has absolutely no flaws whatsoever, and is generally just a wish-fufillment character. Bayonetta doesn't have these traits because she does have flaws and she does have huge obstacles she has to overcome in her games.

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A big problem is that even when their actual personality is weak, more whimsical characters have visual personality you can NOT find in a realistic character. Like compare Banjo or Donkey Kong to an Argonian or Kajiit from Elder Scrolls.


Just because they don't have a visual personality doesn't mean they have no personality.

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So yeah, don't think I'm only dissing humans: it's edgy/serious characters in general. Also, humans only want to play as humans because they are narcissistic and vain, and think humans should be the only creatures portrayed in any sort of good light, and those that think otherwise are scum.


No one has said ANYTHING negative about non-human characters themselves and you're the ONLY one who keeps trashing human characters over and over again, AND constantly swearing at people and calling people freaking MENTAL when they don't agree with you.

I want to know where you even got this idea in the first place because it's just insane. You're arguing this on a forum full of people that joined because they all love the same purple dragon.

I'm sorry, i really am, I tried as hard as possible to be civil about this but I just can't take it anymore. You're being so immature about this whole thing by not listening to anything when the facts are practically being shoved at your face because you just want to be right and prove that we're wrong even though you have not made a SINGLE fact other than your opinions that don't even make sense to prove your points.
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#670 Posted: 01:48:47 12/02/2016
Quote: MugoUrth
First off, you're pretty stubborn (changed on request) if you think I've never played those games, despite saying over and over and over and OVER that I have played them WAY more than I want to just to shut people like you up. Also, my definition of strong personality is one that's unique, likable, and not overly edgy. The characters you mentioned, their personallities are NONE of those things, and they never will be no matter how many times you tell me to replay those ****ing terrible games.



And, fantastic start, insulting someone right in the beginning of your post. You know, with entertainment being around since the dawn of civilization there is literally not one "unique" personality, because they have ALL been done before. Likable is also completely an opinion. Overly edge DOES STILL COUNT AS PERSONALITY. Having no personality literally mean they have NEVER ONCE shown ANY SORT OF emotion, in ANY FORM.

Quote: MugoUrth
So basically, Corrin is a generic Marry-sue/Garry-Stu. Because being "kind and caring" is nothing new, and it's not in the least interesting.

So basically he's about as wise as a stereotypical owl and as calm and collected as a cardboard box. Once again, his personality is neither interesting or anything new.

Once again, I have played ALL of the games, and what you mentioned, yet again, is INCREDIBLY generic, bland, unlikable, and cliched. Everyone gets sad at things. Everyone does things they don't want to. How is Snake any different from ANY OTHER ****ING CREATURE ON THE ****ING PLANET!?



YET IT IS STILL PERSONALITY, EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

Quote: MugoUrth
Once again, Bayonetta is a generic Marry-Sue. Yes, she's the closest thing to having any sort of personality, but even SHE is incredibly cliched and unlikeable. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard the damn ****ing "dark character trying to discover their past" story, I'd be rich.



Regardless of if you want to strip everything else away and just call her a "dark character trying to discover their past" that's been done already, IT. IS. STILL. A. PERSONALITY.

Quote: MugoUrth
A big problem is that even when their actual personality is weak, more whimsical characters have visual personality you can NOT find in a realistic character. Like compare Banjo or Donkey Kong to an Argonian or Kajiit from Elder Scrolls. So yeah, don't think I'm only dissing humans: it's edgy/serious characters in general. Also, humans only want to play as humans because they are narcissistic and vain, and think humans should be the only creatures portrayed in any sort of good light, and those that think otherwise are scum. I relate much more to Donkey Kong than I do to a creature associated with the world's biggest problems.



What are you? Some kind of alien? You just mentioned Donkey Kong, and now you claim that humans are the only characters ever shown in a good light? Oh, and nice victim card of "those who think otherwise are scum". And again with the "humans are a problem" are you an alien? Are you a dolphin with amazingly good internet reception and fingers?
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#671 Posted: 02:07:37 12/02/2016
Take it from me, can't anyone have a point of view and let people respect it? I mean, I could state here and now that this game is complete garbage and should be burned, but instead of people saying "I don't care, it will never effect me in the slightest" or "Do what you want..." People will dig there heel in and try to prove that they are wrong and they need to respect there opinion.

I mean, lets say I hate Smash bros and I say that here, I bet there will be lots of people who will try and prove me wrong by saying there is heaps of content and its extremely fun. Then they will say that I suck and that I have problems, thus starting an argument and making huge wastes of time.

So, let me ask you this: Why do you care what MugoUrth thinks? Just because its negative towards this topic, does not mean you need to jump the gun and run them over because you disagree. I'm not saying anyone here is bad, but just take a moment to say... is it really necessary to start a fight over personalities and other rubbish topics?

Mum told me to 'pick and choose your battles', so why don't we leave MugoUrth to think what he wants and call it a day.
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#672 Posted: 02:15:13 12/02/2016
Things wrong with Mugo:
  • ALWAYS brings this BS up.
  • Isn't respectful of other people or their opinions.
  • Treats his opinions as fact and has a "I'm right, you're wrong" mentality.
  • Very condescending, rude, immature, childish, etc.
  • Extremely overreacts to opinions that are different from his.
  • Calls people names and resorts heavily to using insults, even when completely unnecessary. (i.e calling Strider "mental")
  • Constantly trashes various games, characters, and the people that like them.
  • Tries to pull the victim card by saying that everyone thinks he's "scum" for liking non-human characters. (Which isn't true at all)
  • Always complains about only human-characters being put in a positive light. (Which also isn't true whatsoever)
  • Always trying to pick a fight, ignores facts, doesn't learn when to stop.
  • Etc., etc., I could go on.

  • There's a difference between having a point of view/a differing opinion and being a complete asshat about one. Mugo's being the latter to an extreme extent.

    You're correct, we could just leave it be, but that wouldn't solve the problem. We're all tired of his BS, and the only way to get that across is to make that perfectly clear.

    And the problem is that he doesn't just do this in the Smash topic either; he's done it and continues to do it elsewhere as well.

    At this point he's doing nothing but purposely starting arguments to derail topics and flaming others, something that he can get banned for.
    (And he was suspended recently for this, yet he tried to start it back up again even though the argument had been dead for two days because he was suspended)
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    #673 Posted: 02:26:04 12/02/2016
    Quote: Camo22
    Take it from me, can't anyone have a point of view and let people respect it? I mean, I could state here and now that this game is complete garbage and should be burned, but instead of people saying "I don't care, it will never effect me in the slightest" or "Do what you want..." People will dig there heel in and try to prove that they are wrong and they need to respect there opinion.

    I mean, lets say I hate Smash bros and I say that here, I bet there will be lots of people who will try and prove me wrong by saying there is heaps of content and its extremely fun. Then they will say that I suck and that I have problems, thus starting an argument and making huge wastes of time.

    So, let me ask you this: Why do you care what MugoUrth thinks? Just because its negative towards this topic, does not mean you need to jump the gun and run them over because you disagree. I'm not saying anyone here is bad, but just take a moment to say... is it really necessary to start a fight over personalities and other rubbish topics?

    Mum told me to 'pick and choose your battles', so why don't we leave MugoUrth to think what he wants and call it a day.


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    #674 Posted: 02:32:52 12/02/2016
    Quote: MugoUrth
    A big problem is that even when their actual personality is weak, more whimsical characters have visual personality you can NOT find in a realistic character. Like compare Banjo or Donkey Kong to an Argonian or Kajiit from Elder Scrolls. So yeah, don't think I'm only dissing humans: it's edgy/serious characters in general. Also, humans only want to play as humans because they are narcissistic and vain, and think humans should be the only creatures portrayed in any sort of good light, and those that think otherwise are scum. I relate much more to Donkey Kong than I do to a creature associated with the world's biggest problems.


    Wow, thanks for calling me vain. I personally prefer playing as humans or humanoids. I have mentioned this to you before and you've called me insane for it. It has nothing to do with only wanting to see them in a good light or any form of narcissism. Hell, I hate myself and have wished I was dead more than a few times.

    However, I still find human characters more visually appealing. I have more fun playing as them. I do like some animals like foxes and ferrets, but I still prefer playing as a human. Pokemon is one of my favorite games, and my favorite Pokemon is actually a flying chandelier, far from human. In the end, I still like and enjoy playing as characters like Sora, Neku Sakuraba, Cloud, Guy Cecil, Miss Fortune, and Stealth Elf. I have more fun as them and bond with them to laugh and cry with them as I watch them go through their story. I have tried playing as non-humans in League of Legends and Skylanders, I don't enjoy them visually or how they control usually. I find Donkey Kong kinda bleh in appearance and don't care for his games when I tried them in store demos. Wasn't at all interested or emotionally invested in his character. If I ever participate in a RP, then I don't enjoy it as much if I'm playing a non-human. I feel less of a sense of being able to emulate myself and get into the role to play it. It gets boring far faster for me.

    It's just my personal preference in characters. However, despite that preference, I can still sometimes enjoy non-humans and voted for Tails to be in Smash as well as support the idea of Bajo & AiAi (from Super Monkey Ball) joining.


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    I want to know where you even got this idea in the first place because it's just insane. You're arguing this on a forum full of people that joined because they all love the same purple dragon.


    Actually, I joined for information on Ninjini's release. Have never touched a Spyro game that wasn't Skylanders. Like he's cool there, but not really my fav character.
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    #675 Posted: 02:34:31 12/02/2016
    Quote: Sesshomaru75
    Because Mugo ALWAYS brings this BS up, he isn't respectful of other people or their opinions, he treats his opinions as fact and has a "I'm right, you're wrong mentality".

    He's very condescending, immature, childish, he extremely overreacts to opinions that are different from his, he calls people names, etc., etc., I could go on.

    You're correct, we could just leave it be, but that wouldn't solve the problem. We're all tired of his BS, and the only way to get that across is to make that perfectly clear.

    Hmm, ok. That makes sense. When there is an itch that you ignore, there is only so much you can take before you need to scratch. I can agree with that pretty well.

    Well, I don't know... do what you want, I have my opinions and this does not affect me in the slightest. All I'll say though, is MugoUrth, just leave it be. You have stated your argument and you look very upset that these characters are in this game. Don't worry, I wished for better characters too. Thing is though, you can't change it. You can't remove these characters from the game as optional characters for you to download. I got over it, and now I think you should.

    I'm not going against you, I can relate because I never liked Bayonetta or Corrin. I can't change that, and nor can you. Wanna sell the game? That's fine with me! You think the game is stupid? That's fine with me! You have a strong belief that this game has now been ruined and destroyed? That's fine with me!

    Now, just stop arguing and hope that in Smash 5 (If its ever made) does not have these characters. That's the best thing you can do right now.

    Anyway, Underian I find battling Clouds and a good Zelda to be a pain. Thing with Zelda is the teleporting and I never battle them enough to get the hang of it. I just hate that. Cloud... well... I think everyone finds him annoying to battle.
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    #676 Posted: 02:46:17 12/02/2016
    Quote: MugoUrth

    So basically, Corrin is a generic Marry-sue/Garry-Stu. Because being "kind and caring" is nothing new, and it's not in the least interesting.

    So basically he's about as wise as a stereotypical owl and as calm and collected as a cardboard box. Once again, his personality is neither interesting or anything new.


    "Quiet, mature, kind, and gentle always aiding those in need, but also unafraid to show her opinion."

    Hm, that description sounds exactly like the two characters I mentioned before, Ryu and Corrin!
    Can you guess what character I'm referring to with that quote?



    Quote: Sesshomaru75
    Things wrong with Mugo:
  • ALWAYS brings this BS up.
  • Isn't respectful of other people or their opinions.
  • Treats his opinions as fact and has a "I'm right, you're wrong mentality".
  • Very condescending, rude, immature, childish, etc.
  • Extremely overreacts to opinions that are different from his.
  • Calls people names and resorts heavily to using insults, even when completely unnecessary. (i.e calling Strider "mental")
  • Constantly trashes various games, characters, and the people that like them.
  • Tries to pull the victim card by saying that everyone thinks he's "scum" for liking non-human characters. (Which isn't true at all)
  • Always complains about only human-characters being put in a positive light. (Which also isn't true whatsoever)
  • Always trying to pick a fight, ignores facts, doesn't learn when to stop.
  • Etc., etc., I could go on.

  • There's a difference between having a point of view/a differing opinion and being a complete asshat about one. Mugo's being the latter to an extreme extent.

    You're correct, we could just leave it be, but that wouldn't solve the problem. We're all tired of his BS, and the only way to get that across is to make that perfectly clear.

    And the problem is that he doesn't just do this in the Smash topic either; he's done it and continues to do it elsewhere as well.

    At this point he's doing nothing but purposely starting arguments to derail topics and flaming others, something that he can get banned for.
    (And he was suspended recently for this, yet he tried to start it back up again even though the argument had been dead for two days because he was suspended)


    This is like a "Your Fave is Problematic Post" and for some reason that pleases me.

    Quote: Seiki
    Quote: MugoUrth
    A big problem is that even when their actual personality is weak, more whimsical characters have visual personality you can NOT find in a realistic character. Like compare Banjo or Donkey Kong to an Argonian or Kajiit from Elder Scrolls. So yeah, don't think I'm only dissing humans: it's edgy/serious characters in general. Also, humans only want to play as humans because they are narcissistic and vain, and think humans should be the only creatures portrayed in any sort of good light, and those that think otherwise are scum. I relate much more to Donkey Kong than I do to a creature associated with the world's biggest problems.


    Wow, thanks for calling me vain. I personally prefer playing as humans or humanoids. I have mentioned this to you before and you've called me insane for it. It has nothing to do with only wanting to see them in a good light or any form of narcissism. Hell, I hate myself and have wished I was dead more than a few times.


    I feel you so hard tbh

    Quote: Seiki
    However, I still find human characters more visually appealing. I have more fun playing as them. I do like some animals like foxes and ferrets, but I still prefer playing as a human. Pokemon is one of my favorite games, and my favorite Pokemon is actually a flying chandelier, far from human. In the end, I still like and enjoy playing as characters like Sora, Neku Sakuraba, Cloud, Guy Cecil, Miss Fortune, and Stealth Elf. I have more fun as them and bond with them to laugh and cry with them as I watch them go through their story. I have tried playing as non-humans in League of Legends and Skylanders, I don't enjoy them visually or how they control usually. I find Donkey Kong kinda bleh in appearance and don't care for his games when I tried them in store demos. Wasn't at all interested or emotionally invested in his character. If I ever participate in a RP, then I don't enjoy it as much if I'm playing a non-human. I feel less of a sense of being able to emulate myself and get into the role to play it. It gets boring far faster for me.

    It's just my personal preference in characters. However, despite that preference, I can still sometimes enjoy non-humans and voted for Tails to be in Smash as well as support the idea of Bajo & AiAi (from Super Monkey Ball) joining.


    I completely agree. While I love Fire Emblem, and I love playing as Corrin, Cloud, Robin, and others, I'd love to see characters like Amaterasu form Okami, or some Inklings from Splatoon, or Banjo.

    In fact, while Corrin's my new main, the characters I voted for in Smash were Amaterasu, Banjo, and K Rool (for Lunar).
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    #677 Posted: 02:47:37 12/02/2016
    OH MY GOD GUYS LOOK

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    JIGGLYPUFF IS SO CUTE IN THIS STILL O H MIY GOSH???
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    #678 Posted: 02:54:05 12/02/2016 | Topic Creator
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    OH MY GOD GUYS LOOK

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    think that's cute?

    aint seen nothing yet

    meet jigglypuff kirby

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    #679 Posted: 02:56:16 12/02/2016
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    OH MY GOD GUYS LOOK

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    JIGGLYPUFF IS SO CUTE IN THIS STILL O H MIY GOSH???



    think that's cute?

    aint seen nothing yet

    meet jigglypuff kirby

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    MOKAY BUT LOOK!!!! LOOOK AT THIS CUTE P INK ORB

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    LOOK AT HIS MEGAMAN HELMET????? OH MY GOSH????
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    #680 Posted: 03:03:18 12/02/2016
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    OH MY GOD GUYS LOOK

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    JIGGLYPUFF IS SO CUTE IN THIS STILL O H MIY GOSH???



    think that's cute?

    aint seen nothing yet

    meet jigglypuff kirby

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    MOKAY BUT LOOK!!!! LOOOK AT THIS CUTE P INK ORB

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    LOOK AT HIS MEGAMAN HELMET????? OH MY GOSH????



    even better:

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    snake + kirby = snirby
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    #681 Posted: 07:35:00 12/02/2016
    OK but I will just say that Bayonetta is not a Mary Sue. Literally the only aspect of one she has is being powerful (and almost every character in Smash is canonically powerful so if this is all that's required to be a Mary Sue, then it's full of them), but that can be attributed to her being the main character of spectacle action game. That is not all that is required for a character to be a Mary Sue, she'd have to meet at least two or three of the other requirements. And she doesn't.

    Bayonetta isn't a self-insert for either the player or the writer. She has her own identity. So she doesn't meet this one, flat out.

    She isn't loved unconditionally by every non-villain character. She isn't exactly an angel (no pun intended) herself, so she can get behind skin of the good guys. And certain characters may also be portrayed as begrudgingly helping her.

    She isn't without flaws. She's overly arrogant and other characters call her out on it. It can also get her into trouble. I would even argue this translates to how she plays in games. She's super stylish, but because she is compelled to do these flashy poses and such when attacking, it leaves her very open to being punished if she misses.

    That's the gist of it but yeah, she isn't a Mary Sue. Calling her one is just carelessly throwing out the term.
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    #682 Posted: 11:28:22 12/02/2016
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    #683 Posted: 13:23:42 12/02/2016
    OH MY
    They're all so cute...and best of all
    THEYRE NONHUMAN FGSIZHFNRSLVHFBZIXKVNEHXICNVNFSHCIVMFDSIXC MUGOWILLUVDIS
    I love how the most strange yet "serious" discussions (arguments where Mugo is mad) take place in random places. The latest rant is the angriest one by far..."humans playing as humans is narcissistic", "human characters plague videogames" lol whut
    I'm slightly relieved that he is gone/going to leave this thread. In fact, though he calls human characters edgy *cough*lookatyourself*cough*
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    #684 Posted: 20:18:02 12/02/2016
    Quote: StriderSwag

    So basically, Corrin is a generic Marry-sue/Garry-Stu. Because being "kind and caring" is nothing new, and it's not in the least interesting.

    So basically he's about as wise as a stereotypical owl and as calm and collected as a cardboard box. Once again, his personality is neither interesting or anything new.


    "Quiet, mature, kind, and gentle always aiding those in need, but also unafraid to show her opinion."

    Hm, that description sounds exactly like the two characters I mentioned before, Ryu and Corrin!
    Can you guess what character I'm referring to with that quote?



    Quote: Sesshomaru75
    Things wrong with Mugo:
  • ALWAYS brings this BS up.
  • Isn't respectful of other people or their opinions.
  • Treats his opinions as fact and has a "I'm right, you're wrong mentality".
  • Very condescending, rude, immature, childish, etc.
  • Extremely overreacts to opinions that are different from his.
  • Calls people names and resorts heavily to using insults, even when completely unnecessary. (i.e calling Strider "mental")
  • Constantly trashes various games, characters, and the people that like them.
  • Tries to pull the victim card by saying that everyone thinks he's "scum" for liking non-human characters. (Which isn't true at all)
  • Always complains about only human-characters being put in a positive light. (Which also isn't true whatsoever)
  • Always trying to pick a fight, ignores facts, doesn't learn when to stop.
  • Etc., etc., I could go on.

  • There's a difference between having a point of view/a differing opinion and being a complete asshat about one. Mugo's being the latter to an extreme extent.

    You're correct, we could just leave it be, but that wouldn't solve the problem. We're all tired of his BS, and the only way to get that across is to make that perfectly clear.

    And the problem is that he doesn't just do this in the Smash topic either; he's done it and continues to do it elsewhere as well.

    This is like a "Your Fave is Problematic Post" and for some reason that pleases me.

    I completely agree. While I love Fire Emblem, and I love playing as Corrin, Cloud, Robin, and others, I'd love to see characters like Amaterasu form Okami, or some Inklings from Splatoon, or Banjo.

    In fact, while Corrin's my new main, the characters I voted for in Smash were Amaterasu, Banjo, and K Rool (for Lunar).


    Yeah, but at least she's not human, which for all that is holy, is something DIFFERENT. Even if her personality isn't that great, the character herself is still different. Yeah, wolves aren't HUGELY creative, but they're still a hundred more times creative than humans. Also...

    1: People rant when they're angry. Get used to it.
    2: I tried to be, but even when I was, people STILL treated me like scum. I'm basically at the "why bother" stage.
    4: Again, people treat me like scum even when I try to be nice. Not like anyone else is acting any differently.
    7: So basically pointing out that characters are uncreative and over-saturated and that a lot of their fans are vain, human-narcissistic animal haters is wrong?
    8: Actually it feels like it when you use terms like "non-human fetish" and "furry."
    9: Which again, actually isn't entirely false. Yeah, there ARE non-human characters every once in a while, but they are usually drowned out by humans who look to only save other humans.
    10: Ranting=/=Picking fights, refuting things=/=ignoring facts and a lot of my anger would be subsided if I just said my rant and it was left at that.

    Plus, as I told HeyItsHotdog, a lot of my anger is from feeling like nothing goes your way. I get my hopes up for a game being good, it ends up sucking. I want to see a game I like win an award: a game I absolutely despise wins that award. I want to see more non-human heroes, I rarely see them. I wanted even one non-human in Project X Zone, not only are ALL playables humans, but pretty much all the villains are super-cool non-humans. I want non-humans in number 2, less non-human villains, but STILL no non-human goodguys. I want creative villains in Pokemon, get generic misanthropes (which is why I like the Team Magma dude). One bulky Pokemon in Pokken Tournament, we've yet to receive one, and that one we eventually may or may not get will probably be Tyranitar, who's not even that bulky looking.

    Alternatively, I wanted maybe K. Rool, Wolf, Banjo, NPC Villagers, or some other non-human playable DLC character, we get three humans that are all very similar to me. Every time something happens, it makes me feel worse and worse every time. And it's not that I feel like my opinions are fact. Again, people treated me like **** when I was nice about it, and that adds to my list of bothers. I'll admit, I get way angrier than I should at times, but again, it's kind of due to feeling like everyone is against me and nothing goes my way. I'm not a bad person, I just tend to retaliate.

    I'll probably get over Corrin and Bayonetta eventually and play the game again. If not, I'll probably buy Smash Brothers 5 when it comes out. Ultimately I feel like staying angry is just a battle of will.

    Also Seiki, my opinion could not be more different from yours, but I congratulate you for referring to Miss Fortune as a human.
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    #685 Posted: 20:23:55 12/02/2016
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    think that's cute?

    aint seen nothing yet

    meet jigglypuff kirby

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    MOKAY BUT LOOK!!!! LOOOK AT THIS CUTE P INK ORB

    [User Posted Image]

    LOOK AT HIS MEGAMAN HELMET????? OH MY GOSH????



    even better:

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    snake + kirby = snirby



    Kirbonetta

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    #686 Posted: 20:55:16 12/02/2016
    Welp, back to this again.

    Quote: MugoUrth


    Yeah, but at least she's not human, which for all that is holy, is something DIFFERENT. Even if her personality isn't that great, the character herself is still different. Yeah, wolves aren't HUGELY creative, but they're still a hundred more times creative than humans. Also...

    1: People rant when they're angry. Get used to it.
    2: I tried to be, but even when I was, people STILL treated me like scum. I'm basically at the "why bother" stage.
    4: Again, people treat me like scum even when I try to be nice. Not like anyone else is acting any differently.
    7: So basically pointing out that characters are uncreative and over-saturated and that a lot of their fans are vain, human-narcissistic animal haters is wrong?
    8: Actually it feels like it when you use terms like "non-human fetish" and "furry."
    9: Which again, actually isn't entirely false. Yeah, there ARE non-human characters every once in a while, but they are usually drowned out by humans who look to only save other humans.
    10: Ranting=/=Picking fights, refuting things=/=ignoring facts and a lot of my anger would be subsided if I just said my rant and it was left at that.

    Plus, as I told HeyItsHotdog, a lot of my anger is from feeling like nothing goes your way. I get my hopes up for a game being good, it ends up sucking. I want to see a game I like win an award: a game I absolutely despise wins that award. I want to see more non-human heroes, I rarely see them.


    This whole first phrase is just entirely wrong. You pretty much contradicted a lot of your earlier baseis. Saying that she's different when her personality was stated as the same and you agreed just makes no sense. And on wolves being more creative than humans is just wrong, as they don't even have a form of communication and aren't even elaborated on personality wise as much as the humans you are saying have none.

    1. Yeah, but most of them aren't complete asshats with shoving their opinions down our throats.
    2. Not ever in these arguments have you been.
    4. See #2.
    7. Yes.
    8. Hmm... I don't think we've ever called you that in a serious manner through one of these arguments.
    9. That's because the dominating genre in today's games is a shooter, and shooters are out of place without human characters. "drowned out by humans who look to only save other humans." That part is just entirely false.
    10. In your case, they do.
    3,5,6: Oh look, you completely ignored these ones, when 3 especially is very true.

    Again, an opinion that you keep shoving down our throats. If you simply said you didn't like it, rather than raging about the entire concept, we wouldn't be on you like this. If you think that what people want to see win awards actually determines that, you're way off, it's decided by a select few people who mainly like shooters. Deal with it. All the rest of us do.

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    Wow, thanks for calling me vain. I have mentioned this to you before and you've called me insane for it. It has nothing to do with only wanting to see them in a good light or any form of narcissism. Hell, I hate myself and have wished I was dead more than a few times.

    It's just my personal preference in characters. However, despite that preference, I can still sometimes enjoy non-humans and voted for Tails to be in Smash as well as support the idea of Bajo & AiAi (from Super Monkey Ball) joining.


    I feel you here, a lot.
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    #687 Posted: 21:56:32 12/02/2016
    Quote: MugoUrth
    Yeah, but at least she's not human, which for all that is holy, is something DIFFERENT. Even if her personality isn't that great, the character herself is still different. Yeah, wolves aren't HUGELY creative, but they're still a hundred more times creative than humans. Also...



    I thought earlier this was about how you hate just these "bland" personalities, but now it's okay for it just because they aren't human?


    Quote: MugoUrth
    Quote: Sesshomaru75
    Things wrong with Mugo:
  • ALWAYS brings this BS up.
  • Isn't respectful of other people or their opinions.
  • Treats his opinions as fact and has a "I'm right, you're wrong mentality".
  • Very condescending, rude, immature, childish, etc.
  • Extremely overreacts to opinions that are different from his.
  • Calls people names and resorts heavily to using insults, even when completely unnecessary. (i.e calling Strider "mental")
  • Constantly trashes various games, characters, and the people that like them.
  • Tries to pull the victim card by saying that everyone thinks he's "scum" for liking non-human characters. (Which isn't true at all)
  • Always complains about only human-characters being put in a positive light. (Which also isn't true whatsoever)
  • Always trying to pick a fight, ignores facts, doesn't learn when to stop.
  • Etc., etc., I could go on.

  • There's a difference between having a point of view/a differing opinion and being a complete asshat about one. Mugo's being the latter to an extreme extent.


    1: People rant when they're angry. Get used to it.
    2: I tried to be, but even when I was, people STILL treated me like scum. I'm basically at the "why bother" stage.
    4: Again, people treat me like scum even when I try to be nice. Not like anyone else is acting any differently.
    7: So basically pointing out that characters are uncreative and over-saturated and that a lot of their fans are vain, human-narcissistic animal haters is wrong?
    8: Actually it feels like it when you use terms like "non-human fetish" and "furry."
    9: Which again, actually isn't entirely false. Yeah, there ARE non-human characters every once in a while, but they are usually drowned out by humans who look to only save other humans.
    10: Ranting=/=Picking fights, refuting things=/=ignoring facts and a lot of my anger would be subsided if I just said my rant and it was left at that.


    1:But you do this so much, to the point where you just bring it up out of the blue, even when NOBODY is talking about it.
    2: Because you constantly bash other people, and even the first time this happened, you basically started throwing insults for no reason. And again, "people STILL treat me like scum" is a nice little victim card, don't you think?
    3: Oh, like how you conveniently ignore this one.
    4: Do you actually think you are being nice? When you first brought it up this time, you immediately started out with curse words.
    5: Oh, you're going to ignore this one to?
    6: And this?
    7: Pointing out the character are uncreative when they aren't is kind of a problem. And how the hell does liking a character mean that one is vain, or hates animals?
    8: It's still pulling the victim card.
    9: Well, since most games are FPS, would you honestly pay for a game that features, say, a humanoid wolf with a gun shooting other animals, to save other animals. And yeah, most games have humans because they are made by humans. Unless of course they were made by the secret lizard people that the government is hiding...
    10: In your case it often does.

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    Plus, as I told HeyItsHotdog, a lot of my anger is from feeling like nothing goes your way. I get my hopes up for a game being good, it ends up sucking. I want to see a game I like win an award: a game I absolutely despise wins that award. I want to see more non-human heroes, I rarely see them. I wanted even one non-human in Project X Zone, not only are ALL playables humans, but pretty much all the villains are super-cool non-humans. I want non-humans in number 2, less non-human villains, but STILL no non-human goodguys. I want creative villains in Pokemon, get generic misanthropes (which is why I like the Team Magma dude). One bulky Pokemon in Pokken Tournament, we've yet to receive one, and that one we eventually may or may not get will probably be Tyranitar, who's not even that bulky looking.



    Well, as shocking as it is, the universe doesn't cater to your every whim. A game sucking is mostly an opinion. Doesn't everyone want to see a game they like win an award? The non human hero, maybe that's because you aren't their target market they are trying to please? You can't just demand to get non human in every game and expect it to happen. The video game industry DOES NOT cater to your every whim. And creative villains in Pokemon? A game with 700+ unique creatures, and there isn't enough unique things?

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    Alternatively, I wanted maybe K. Rool, Wolf, Banjo, NPC Villagers, or some other non-human playable DLC character, we get three humans that are all very similar to me. Every time something happens, it makes me feel worse and worse every time.


    And I'm sure the video game industry feels deeply sorry about doing theses things, because it makes you feel bad.

    Quote: MugoUrth
    And it's not that I feel like my opinions are fact.


    Except you kind of do.


    Also, you didn't answer last time as to if you are human or not, so I am forced to conclude you are some form of outer space alien. The Doctor has been informed of this.
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    somePerson Platinum Sparx Gems: 5064
    #688 Posted: 22:12:00 12/02/2016
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    Weeaboo Kirby.
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    #689 Posted: 22:58:49 12/02/2016
    I ask that if you're going to debate with Mugo don't whittle it down to petty insults or attacks on his character. This is a thread about Smash Bros so keep the discussion and debate to Smash Bros please and thank you.

    The same applies to you Mugo.

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    Like I told HeyIt'sHotdog, these type of characters PLAGUE videogames, and I play games like Smash Brothers to get away from these creatures. I don't care that they're optional, the fact that they're in the game at all, instead of putting even one more non-human in the game, is insulting enough.

    Also, ZapNorris, I don't have a WiiU. And even if I did, I am not touching this game ever again.


    I mean if the game still has those characters you do enjoy though this shouldn't really hamper your enjoyment. If anything being able to continue using your favorite characters to beat down the human characters you so hate online should be cathartic and let out that anger you have towards them.
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    #690 Posted: 23:42:46 12/02/2016
    Quote: MugoUrth
    Also Seiki, my opinion could not be more different from yours, but I congratulate you for referring to Miss Fortune as a human.


    And I came to understand that fully a long time ago and have never desired to change your opinion on the matter. Merely wish that you would choose certain words a little more carefully to not make a number of your posts out to be as hateful as they are. It really only leads to these arguments as others feel need to defend themselves and their favored games against the "scum" or "mental" that you call them.

    Are you implying she's not?
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    #691 Posted: 00:30:58 13/02/2016 | Topic Creator
    hey guys how about that yoshi fella he seems pretty cute

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    Seiki Emerald Sparx Gems: 4482
    #692 Posted: 00:36:35 13/02/2016
    Quote: LunarDistortion
    hey guys how about that yoshi fella he seems pretty cute

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    Get your non-pink puffballs outta here!!
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    #693 Posted: 01:07:31 13/02/2016
    Quote: LunarDistortion
    hey guys how about that yoshi fella he seems pretty cute

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    I have that yellow Yoshi skin as a plushie!
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    #694 Posted: 01:09:29 13/02/2016
    Quote: Seiki
    Quote: LunarDistortion
    hey guys how about that yoshi fella he seems pretty cute

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    Get your non-pink puffballs outta here!!

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    You'll always be the OG Jojo fan here
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    #695 Posted: 01:41:07 13/02/2016
    on this episode of the real housewives of smash 4
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    #696 Posted: 01:54:11 13/02/2016
    thinking about trying at least secondary ness
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    oh my god its knuckles
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    #697 Posted: 06:55:56 13/02/2016
    what's going on in this topic because it is getting nowhere

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    #698 Posted: 15:17:26 13/02/2016
    Quote: Seiki
    Quote: MugoUrth
    Also Seiki, my opinion could not be more different from yours, but I congratulate you for referring to Miss Fortune as a human.


    And I came to understand that fully a long time ago and have never desired to change your opinion on the matter. Merely wish that you would choose certain words a little more carefully to not make a number of your posts out to be as hateful as they are. It really only leads to these arguments as others feel need to defend themselves and their favored games against the "scum" or "mental" that you call them.

    Are you implying she's not?


    Woops, I thought you meant Miss Fortune from Skullgirls. (She's a "cat lady," but I still consider her human.) ...I guess "Congratulations for referring to Stealth Elf as a human" then.
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    #699 Posted: 15:19:16 13/02/2016
    I got some good replays in Smash last night.



    I managed to two stock a very good ZSS as Corrin. Connection was really good too, goes to show how much of a difference that makes. Overall, it was a really fun match so I uploaded it.

    The others I will just link to with GIFs, since they were mostly matches with a specific moment I wanted to highlight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxbsixMyBFE
    I found a little denial you can do to Ryu's Side B with Corrin's Neutral B. It looks pretty cool. I did it twice in the match, but the second time finished the match.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASjn0BmujMo
    And here, I got a 0-to-KO on a Meta Knight as Rosalina. It was an inescapable true combo too. Rosalina mains tend to whine about the Meta Knight MU a lot, so this may be worth labbing to try and re-create, even if it was rage based.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHscjBS0ifE
    And this one was just me being a ****. smilie

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    #700 Posted: 16:47:34 13/02/2016
    That Meta Knight had really bad DI. :/
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