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So if 50 people apply for a job opening at a newly built Burger King, should the Burger King be forced to hire all 50 of them?

Of course not. Many people are under qualified or over qualified and so on.

But at the same time you legally cannot fire or not hire someone based entirely on their race, or gender, or religious views. That is considered discrimination. Shouldn't the same apply to your sexual orientation?

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So working in order to provide for your family and live the American dream is not a right??? WOW I AM LEARNING SO MUCH TODAY

Not being denied a job is not a right.

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Oh crap, people don't agree with you! What will we ever do?

Do you have a mental problem? I'm generally curious.

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The amendments were mainly to cover new concepts and oversights. The abolition of slavery and other such concepts were just things they didn't have time to implement at first. Plus the founding fathers were against homosexuality. When they put them in the military they made them stop codoing homosexual acts, and they complied.

Considering a chunk of the Founding Fathers were slave owners and so was a large portion of the United States, I doubt they simply "forgot to abolish it".

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Yes, because you know what the court is used for?

To protect human rights.

So if 50 people apply for a job opening at a newly built Burger King, should the Burger King be forced to hire all 50 of them?

"I guess getting a job based on your work ethic and not your sexuality is a right."

Man repeating myself sure does suck

They can hire you based off of whatever they want in most states. Should they make a law that forces everyone to like homosexuals too?

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I was saying that an amendment like that would make no sense. Our founding fathers were perfectly aware of marriage and homosexuality. If the Constitution should've had anything about that, it would. And yes, I did take American history, with all As, and was the teacher's favorite student.

It would make perfect sense in this day and age. And if you did take American History with all As (which was completely irrelevant btw), you'd know the founding fathers didn't make all the Amendments. That came after.

The amendments were mainly to cover new concepts and oversights. The abolition of slavery and other such concepts were just things they didn't have time to implement at first. Plus the founding fathers were against homosexuality. When they put them in the military they made them stop codoing homosexual acts, and they complied.

Huh, it's almost like opinions change over the course of 239 years.

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So working in order to provide for your family and live the American dream is not a right??? WOW I AM LEARNING SO MUCH TODAY

Not being denied a job is not a right.

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Oh crap, people don't agree with you! What will we ever do?

Do you have a mental problem? I'm generally curious.

Well if you want money for people with minds that hate, all I can tell you is brother you have to wait. (Yeah, my taxes are going to places that have gay weddings. I don't like it.)

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So if 50 people apply for a job opening at a newly built Burger King, should the Burger King be forced to hire all 50 of them?

"I guess getting a job based on your work ethic and not your sexuality is a right."

Man repeating myself sure does suck

They can hire you based off of whatever they want in most states. Should they make a law that forces everyone to like homosexuals too?

What are you even talking about???

Quote: Ryanator20x6

They can hire you based off of whatever they want in most states. Should they make a law that forces everyone to like homosexuals too?

Yeah but to deny you employment based only on the fact that you're black, or a woman, or Muslim, would be discrimination and against the law, since these things don't determine your skill with the job in question (especially Burger King).

How does being bi or gay make you any better or worse at your job?

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"I guess getting a job based on your work ethic and not your sexuality is a right."

Man repeating myself sure does suck

They can hire you based off of whatever they want in most states. Should they make a law that forces everyone to like homosexuals too?

What are you even talking about???

If you submit an application for a job, and you aren't hired, and through magical mind-reading you figure out it's because you're a homosexual, should you be able to sue and get a fat stack? Because they can also not hire you for having brown eyes, and that's legal.

Question: Would being a lesbian/gay stripper at a straight strip club effect your work? I'm genuinely curious TBH.

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So if 50 people apply for a job opening at a newly built Burger King, should the Burger King be forced to hire all 50 of them?

"I guess getting a job based on your work ethic and not your sexuality is a right."

Man repeating myself sure does suck

They can hire you based off of whatever they want in most states. Should they make a law that forces everyone to like homosexuals too?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/we..._discrimination

Except they can't and there have been many, MANY laws trying to stop it. I thought you knew that, since you were your history teacher's FAVORITE student

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They can hire you based off of whatever they want in most states. Should they make a law that forces everyone to like homosexuals too?

What are you even talking about???

If you submit an application for a job, and you aren't hired, and through magical mind-reading you figure out it's because you're a homosexual, should you be able to sue and get a fat stack?

Yes, because that's illegal and ~*~*~*~discrimination~*~*~*~.

If the employer isn't asking you about your sexuality it shouldn't matter.

If the employer is asking about your sexuality, that should be a red flag in on itself.

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"I guess getting a job based on your work ethic and not your sexuality is a right."

Man repeating myself sure does suck

They can hire you based off of whatever they want in most states. Should they make a law that forces everyone to like homosexuals too?

since you were your history teacher's FAVORITE student

Are you trying to deny that now?

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They can hire you based off of whatever they want in most states. Should they make a law that forces everyone to like homosexuals too?

since you were your history teacher's FAVORITE student

Are you trying to deny that now?

Well you have no proof so...

Ryan I think one of the biggest things you need to keep in mind right now is that we're not talking about religious institutions. If your example/issue was with a church being forced to accept gay people or do gay weddings, then I would understand your point. It goes against the religious beliefs and it shouldn't be forced upon them to do something against those beliefs (regardless if I or others disagree with it).

But your example wasn't a church. Your example was Burger King, a public company that by law is an equal opportunity employer. Burger King cannot and does not discriminate by race, gender, religious beliefs, or ethnicity, because such would be against the law. The same should (and in some places already does) apply to sexual orientation.

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They can hire you based off of whatever they want in most states. Should they make a law that forces everyone to like homosexuals too?

since you were your history teacher's FAVORITE student

Are you trying to deny that now?

Awww you avoided the argument to try and protect your wittle pwide. How cute.

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since you were your history teacher's FAVORITE student

Are you trying to deny that now?

Well you have no proof so...

I need to prove it now?

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Are you trying to deny that now?

Well you have no proof so...

I need to prove it now?

You're ignoring the point of the argument now.
Its something that's hard to prove in the first place. No one is going to believe you.

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since you were your history teacher's FAVORITE student

Are you trying to deny that now?

Awww you avoided the argument to try and protect your wittle pwide. How cute.

Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, so I would never to that.

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I need to prove it now?

I doesn't seem like you know your ****, so yes.

I can't think of a way to do that that wouldn't end badly.

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Are you trying to deny that now?

Awww you avoided the argument to try and protect your wittle pwide. How cute.

Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, so I would never to that.

Still avoiding the argument <3

It seems I'm just talking to the gentle breeze right now.

Nobody here is saying that you have to love gay people and kiss every single one Ryan. I understand your religious beliefs and while I strongly disagree with them, I'm not about to try and force it. But you also need to understand that public employers, companies, and government institutions should not discriminate and not hire someone based on their sexual orientation.

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Awww you avoided the argument to try and protect your wittle pwide. How cute.

Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, so I would never to that.

<3

Now that's just weird.

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Are you trying to deny that now?

Awww you avoided the argument to try and protect your wittle pwide. How cute.

Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, so I would never to that.

So I guess being proud that you passed a test or got a girlfriend makes you oh so tainted?
Not to mention its also a sin to wear clothing made of blended materials, and a sin to eat shellfish. Eating a lot of food is also a "sin". Guess I must be suuuper satanic since I'm bi and do all of these.~

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Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, so I would never to that.

<3

Now that's just weird.

No it's not, because in the end

Love wins

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<3

Now that's just weird.

No it's not, because in the end

Love wins

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It seems I'm just talking to the gentle breeze right now.

Nobody here is saying that you have to love gay people and kiss every single one Ryan. I understand your religious beliefs and while I strongly disagree with them, I'm not about to try and force it. But you also need to understand that public employers, companies, and government institutions should not discriminate and not hire someone based on their sexual orientation.

I'll go out on a limb and say that doesn't happen very often.

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Awww you avoided the argument to try and protect your wittle pwide. How cute.

Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, so I would never to that.

So I guess being proud that you passed a test or got a girlfriend makes you oh so tainted?
Not to mention its also a sin to wear clothing made of blended materials, and a sin to eat shellfish. Eating a lot of food is also a "sin". Guess I must be suuuper satanic since I'm bi and do all of these.~

Well nobody's perfect, but if you put all that together you seem like a very bad person.

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It seems I'm just talking to the gentle breeze right now.

Nobody here is saying that you have to love gay people and kiss every single one Ryan. I understand your religious beliefs and while I strongly disagree with them, I'm not about to try and force it. But you also need to understand that public employers, companies, and government institutions should not discriminate and not hire someone based on their sexual orientation.

I'll go out on a limb and say that doesn't happen very often.

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Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, so I would never to that.

So I guess being proud that you passed a test or got a girlfriend makes you oh so tainted?
Not to mention its also a sin to wear clothing made of blended materials, and a sin to eat shellfish. Eating a lot of food is also a "sin". Guess I must be suuuper satanic since I'm bi and do all of these.~

Well nobody's perfect, but if you put all that together you seem like a very bad person.

Kid, everyone knew that one

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I'll go out on a limb and say that doesn't happen very often.

What? Discrimination when hiring?

You're right in that it doesn't happen all that often. Because it's illegal. Some CVS stores got caught discriminating against blacks when hiring recently and they got slammed for it.

So why shouldn't sexual orientation be protected under that? Hey if they don't know your orientation it shouldn't matter right (since realistically an employer shouldn't be asking straight out if you're gay)?

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I'll go out on a limb and say that doesn't happen very often.

What? Discrimination when hiring?

You're right in that it doesn't happen all that often. Because it's illegal. Some CVS stores got caught discriminating against blacks when hiring recently and they got slammed for it.

So why shouldn't sexual orientation be protected under that? Hey if they don't know your orientation it shouldn't matter right (since realistically an employer shouldn't be asking straight out if you're gay)?

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<3

Now that's just weird.

No it's not, because in the end

Love wins

Except that silly agenda didn't meat it's end. Didn't you see the maps?
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In all fairness, by legalizing same sex marriage nationwide, it's only a matter of time before they get civil protection and protection under equal opportunity employment.

It's not a matter of "if" or "why not". It's "when".

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Now that's just weird.

No it's not, because in the end

Love wins

Except that silly agenda didn't meat it's end. Didn't you see the maps?
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Love wins because the LGBT community, who has been fighting for years to get rights, has now gotten gay marriage legal. It's the sign of progression.

American history problems isn't solved in a single instant, again, you WOULD know that since you got all A's in history.

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Except that silly agenda didn't meat it's end. Didn't you see the maps?

So how does it feel to be on your last legs?

Well then that map does get filled up (which would take quite a while), I could still make a tactical retreat to Russia as a last resort.

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No it's not, because in the end

Love wins

Except that silly agenda didn't meat it's end. Didn't you see the maps?
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Love wins because the LGBT community, who has been fighting for years to get rights, has now gotten gay marriage legal. It's the sign of progression.

American history problems isn't solved in a single instant, again, you WOULD know that since you got all A's in history.

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Huh, it's almost like opinions change over the course of 239 years.

Man, repeating myself sure does suck.

I swear to god I could just right three lines of "blah blah blah" and get the same results why am I even posting in this thread?

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Except that silly agenda didn't meat it's end. Didn't you see the maps?

So how does it feel to be on your last legs?

Well then that map does get filled up (which would take quite a while), I could still make a tactical retreat to Russia as a last resort.

Wouldn't take a while if an AMENDMENT was added.
Have fun being in an oppressed country full of unaccepting bigots, you won't be missed in the US.

Obama says it best.