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More info on Light & Dark elements + Spotlight & Blackout characters
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#1 Posted: 17:48:39 18/09/2014 | Topic Creator
So, someone posted this French article on the game pages;
http://surlatrace-skylanders.e...-trap-team.html

Looks like one of the new characters is called Blackout, and another character is a centaur.

Also, it looks like another one is called Spotlight..
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#2 Posted: 17:56:49 18/09/2014
Interesting article when you translate it. Since they are mini-elements, they don't get giants or SF characters, which I'm ok with. Since old characters aren't used at all in the new games, why would they ever bother making them? Giants were so useless the last game, they weren't even fun to play. I really like the "angel" sounding one. Must be the picture of the prototype we saw.
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#3 Posted: 18:00:41 18/09/2014
Well Google Translate ate some letters, but apparently Blackout and Spotlight are counterpart spiders, while Centaur(might be misinformation considering the other guy) and Light are counterpart knights?

...Well at least we can choose between the color palettes, but they sound pretty cool. Though Nightmare/Dream doesn't seem to fit these guys unless it's one based on fears and the other based on pleasant fantastic creatures. Dark kinda runs into the problem of the variants.

EDIT: "Some of these characters are susceptible to change" thank Eon for having a mother language also derivated from latin because I missed that at first. Well then that explains Centaur's name. No wonder Skydad only found a prototype of Light.
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#4 Posted: 18:02:36 18/09/2014
Translation:

It was an exclusive info we own but we could not reveal it is now almost official now.
Skylanders: Trap Team will welcome two new elements: Darkness and brightness are added to this game as indicated from the 3DS version of the game picture.
It shows Blastermind and the "common" elements but look down. It shows very well two new elements which may also correspond to Moon and Sun.

What are these new features? What do they do? Will there any new characters? Answers with exclusive information on the Trace Skylanders!

Two new elements will be "mini-elements" because there will be only two characters by the elements. We do not know if it will Trap Masters or normal. Probably Trap Masters, because the elementary gates will open only with Trap Masters.
Here, we know the 4 four Skylanders that make up its elements.
To Darkness (or Moon): there will Blackout, a sprawling four-legged using shadows and vortex and a Centaur with a big sword.
Brightness level (or Sun): there will be Spotlight, a four-legged opposite Blackout, can shoot lasers and rings. Lasers and rings operate lasers and crystals Prism Break. The second character, Light (how original name), is a guardian angel to the appearance of ... warrior.
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#5 Posted: 18:04:00 18/09/2014
Quote: Bifrost
...Well at least we can choose between the color palettes,


Pretty sure they'll be very different characters, but are basically just different counterparts.
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#6 Posted: 18:05:08 18/09/2014
Dunno,Blackout and Spotlight sound pretty similar. Both four legged and using either tentacles or lasers. Centaur and Light not so much, but might be story related or something.
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#7 Posted: 18:06:10 18/09/2014
Quote: Bifrost
Dunno,Blackout and Spotlight sound pretty similar. Both four legged and using either tentacles or lasers. Centaur and Light not so much, but might be story related or something.



Still gonna have very different moves, even if they are similar.
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#8 Posted: 18:10:32 18/09/2014
I find this hard to believe unless it's officially revealed, just because I've never heard of this fansite before.
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#9 Posted: 18:15:57 18/09/2014
Quote: Arc of Archives
I find this hard to believe unless it's officially revealed, just because I've never heard of this fansite before.


You probably haven't heard of it because it is a french website, and as such, you would not norally know about it.

Besides, that figure we saw at the Toys for Bob offices fit the description he gives of Light.
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#10 Posted: 20:47:06 18/09/2014
If there is a character named Light the other darkness character's name might be Dark....

Its a stupid idea but maybe......
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#11 Posted: 21:29:48 18/09/2014
I have a feeling it won't be called "Dark" and "Light" since we already have "Dark" characters for other elements, and one could argue "Enchanted" characters are the "Light" ones. It will probably be something like "Sun" and "Moon" or "Lunar" and "Solar".
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#12 Posted: 21:33:42 18/09/2014
Quote: defpally
I have a feeling it won't be called "Dark" and "Light" since we already have "Dark" characters for other elements, and one could argue "Enchanted" characters are the "Light" ones. It will probably be something like "Sun" and "Moon" or "Lunar" and "Solar".



They aren't "Dark" and "Light"
they are Darkness and Brightness
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#13 Posted: 21:42:11 18/09/2014
Brightness is just the direct translation, Wind. It could be Light and Dark and we'll see that once an english site has an article on this.
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#14 Posted: 21:42:31 18/09/2014
That is just the French translation. There is no official word yet on what they are in English. If you look at the French mottos on character boxes, a lot of them don't literally match what the characters say in English.
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#15 Posted: 21:50:13 18/09/2014
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DARK Okay the first character is called blackout he's a four-legged character using tentacular shadow and vortexes to attack. There's another one that we don't know his name yet but it's a centaur with a big sword.

LIGHT There will be spotlight, another four-legged character shooting lazers and ring! The article also says that the rings and lazers work the same as Prism Break's lazers and crystals. So we can know a little bit how it'll look like. And the other one is caller light (What an original name!) This guy will be a guardian angel with a warrior look. It makes me think of the character that SkyDad saw at TFB with the wing and the broken sword.

It also clearly says in the last line of the text that names might change... :/

Let's leave the character and talk about the elements themselves. In the article it says that they're not sure if they'll be Trap masters or Core character but I think they'll be trap masters cuz you can open element doors with Trap masters only.

btw I'm french so yeah I can clearly read this article.
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#16 Posted: 21:55:18 18/09/2014
Four-legged = Dragons. Hype.
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#17 Posted: 22:02:04 18/09/2014
Oh, so it's a unspecified quadruped species and not a spider-y duo. Well thanks for that Lloyd. Kinda hard to be Cores with special gates because one of TT's gimmicks is having Trap Masters being strong against villains; if that didn't apply to Light and Dark it'd feel out of place and the villains would be harder for little reason for those that got one of those new guys.
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#18 Posted: 22:14:02 18/09/2014
2 must be cores because it says on the site that we will have 16 Trap Masters and 18 Cores, so it's interesting that some must be Trap Masters because of the elemental gates.
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#19 Posted: 22:16:10 18/09/2014
Quote: ninja9351
2 must be cores because it says on the site that we will have 16 Trap Masters and 18 Cores, so it's interesting that some must be Trap Masters because of the elemental gates.



Oh that's true! Did not think of that! And also, cute avatar detected!
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#20 Posted: 22:18:18 18/09/2014
Wow love the moon element . I am so hoping for a wolf as a core.
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#21 Posted: 22:18:48 18/09/2014
Quote: newkill
Four-legged = Dragons. Hype.



Or horses, or centaurs, or whatever came to their minds. smilie

However, I would like to point something out:
since english is not my first language, I would like to know if there are some differences, between the words "quadrupeds" and "four-legged".
I think the article said "quadrupeds", in french, and if my memory helps me, that means that they have only four limbs, and they use them all to deambulate.
If I'm not wrong, instead, "four-legged" means that they deambulate with four legs, but that they dont necessarily have only those limbs.
Think about horses and centaurs. smilie
Thanks to anyone who will help me understand. smilie

As for the catchphrases and Elements names, it's not quite the same thing.
While the catchphrases may change A LOT, from language to language (in italian Free Ranger's catchphrase is "A Storm is Coming", which is the english one for Thunderbolt...), because some puns or sayings might not work, Element names remain mostly the same (yet in italian "Tech" is translated as "Technique", rather than "Technology", and I think the second is the right one).

So, I think it's safe to assume that the new Elements are Dark and Light or Darkness and Brightness. smilie
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#22 Posted: 22:33:26 18/09/2014
I was thinking the elements could be called Night and Day
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#23 Posted: 23:02:12 18/09/2014
Quote: newkill
Four-legged = Dragons. Hype.



Yup. Yes. This.


Please? :3
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#24 Posted: 23:10:40 18/09/2014
Quote: Drek95
Quote: newkill
Four-legged = Dragons. Hype.



Or horses, or centaurs, or whatever came to their minds. smilie

However, I would like to point something out:
since english is not my first language, I would like to know if there are some differences, between the words "quadrupeds" and "four-legged".
I think the article said "quadrupeds", in french, and if my memory helps me, that means that they have only four limbs, and they use them all to deambulate.
If I'm not wrong, instead, "four-legged" means that they deambulate with four legs, but that they dont necessarily have only those limbs.
Think about horses and centaurs. smilie
Thanks to anyone who will help me understand. smilie

As for the catchphrases and Elements names, it's not quite the same thing.
While the catchphrases may change A LOT, from language to language (in italian Free Ranger's catchphrase is "A Storm is Coming", which is the english one for Thunderbolt...), because some puns or sayings might not work, Element names remain mostly the same (yet in italian "Tech" is translated as "Technique", rather than "Technology", and I think the second is the right one).

So, I think it's safe to assume that the new Elements are Dark and Light or Darkness and Brightness. smilie



The suffix ped means foot. If you are a biped you have two feet like us. We have 4 limbs but are bipedal, being that we only use 2 legs. So 4 legged and quadruped are practically the same thing.
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#25 Posted: 00:01:45 19/09/2014
Quote: newkill
Four-legged = Dragons. Hype.


I'm not so sure if the new characters are dragons, but it would be really awesome.
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#26 Posted: 02:17:03 19/09/2014
With so many dragons and half-dragon hybrids, I can't imagine I will be totally impressed if the new cores are dragons. But maybe seeing a dragon crossed with something based on Fenrir or Amarok for Dark/Moon/Night. That could be really awesome.
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#27 Posted: 02:22:09 19/09/2014
It could be the Poop and Pee elements...it's just figures...

Yawn...
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#28 Posted: 02:22:16 19/09/2014
It could be a horse, cat, sheep. They're not necessary dragons and smiliethis... smilie
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#29 Posted: 03:04:49 19/09/2014
Maybe the four-legged creatures are new core Skylanders whereas the Centaur and Guardian Angel characters are the new Trap Masters of Darkness and Light.
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#30 Posted: 03:13:48 19/09/2014
Quote: TheShadowDragon
I thought all Trap Masters are supposed to be bipedal like the SWAP Force. How could four-legged creatures hold Traptanium weapons?



they could be 6 limbed like a centaur, 4 legged, but still two arms as well.

also there are two traptanium helmets, so a character without arms could use head rush's helm or blaster minds.
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#31 Posted: 03:33:24 19/09/2014
My question is this: 2 new elements, 3 Doom Raiders still not confirmed. I don't know, I have been out of school for a while, but something about the math here doesn't add up to me.
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#32 Posted: 03:34:55 19/09/2014
Am I really the only one who can read french fluently? :3 Jk...

Anywho, the first paragraph-ish says that they can't tell if the 4 new skylanders are going to be Trap Masters or regular characters but most likely Trap Masters as they are the only ones who can open Elemental Gates. Blackout is a quadreped who uses shade (as in the thing under a tree or something during the day) attacks that can go in all directions and of course, vortexes.... (If you missed that....)

The Centaur just has a big sword... That's it....Its not like we've already seen big swords am i right? *cough* Krypt King and Thunderbolt *cough*

Spotlight is a quadreped opposite to Blackout. He/She/It can pull rings and lasers (even I dont get the grammar there) and the lasers and rings work like Prism Break's beams and crystals... (Didnt understand that a bit either)

And Light (yes, completely original name indeed) is a guardian angel who looks like its ready for war (A war-angel, if you will)

Where is this 3rd missing Doom Raider? Did I miss something?
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#33 Posted: 04:20:39 19/09/2014
Quote: isaac343018s
Where is this 3rd missing Doom Raider? Did I miss something?



Sorry, I meant that there are 3 elements that need a Doom Raider but there are only 2 question marks. Sorry for the confusion.
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#34 Posted: 04:25:04 19/09/2014
Quote: isaac343018s
Where is this 3rd missing Doom Raider? Did I miss something?



While I'm pretty sure the two secret villains in the Doom Raiders will be from both of the new elements, I actually have a more interesting theory. Maybe the Doom Raiders left are a magic and darkness villain after all does it really make sense to have a brightness villain? That seems out of place and confusing so my theory is that the doom raiders get a darkness and magic villain so the rest of the villains can all be for the darkness element. The only part that debunks this theory is how some gameplay videos already confirmed only 3 villains in the magic element.
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#35 Posted: 04:27:09 19/09/2014
a possible solution is that kaos is of one of the new elements


edit: i like GhostRoaster617's theory of there being no "Light" element Doom Raider more than Kaos being of the "Dark" element.
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#36 Posted: 05:39:20 19/09/2014
Quote: min8or
a possible solution is that kaos is of one of the new elements


edit: i like GhostRoaster617's theory of there being no "Light" element Doom Raider more than Kaos being of the "Dark" element.



Kaos it's his own element evil muahaha
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#37 Posted: 10:38:26 19/09/2014
A possible solution is that there is going to be a magic doom raider and a brightness one which could be glumshanks since he really isn't evil just forced to be by kaos.
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#38 Posted: 11:20:57 19/09/2014
Quote: Slobbertooth123
A possible solution is that there is going to be a magic doom raider and a brightness one which could be glumshanks since he really isn't evil just forced to be by kaos.


Nah, he's just as evil, but half as competent and double as pessimistic. The guidebook for Giants mentions he even enrolled in troll training. His problem is that he never tries since he's always expecting to lose.
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#39 Posted: 13:30:26 19/09/2014
Maybe Kaos is actually representing the "Magic Doom Raider".
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#40 Posted: 13:32:55 19/09/2014
Quote: Geo-Stelar
Maybe Kaos is actually representing the "Magic Doom Raider".



Nah, he be representin' his own "Kaos" element.
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#41 Posted: 13:37:04 19/09/2014
Quote: HeyitsHotDog
Quote: Geo-Stelar
Maybe Kaos is actually representing the "Magic Doom Raider".



Nah, he be representin' his own "Kaos" element.


Exactly! He is of the "Kaos Magic" element!
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#42 Posted: 13:52:37 19/09/2014
Quote: Geo-Stelar
Quote: HeyitsHotDog
Quote: Geo-Stelar
Maybe Kaos is actually representing the "Magic Doom Raider".



Nah, he be representin' his own "Kaos" element.


Exactly! He is of the "Kaos Magic" element!



No,ye don't seem to understand. Kaos be part of the Kaos element not the Kaos Magic element. My guess is that the Magic and other missing doom raider are part of the Adventure packs.
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#43 Posted: 22:14:49 20/09/2014
I hope one of the characters in each element will be female. A black widow would be cool for darkness and if the angel were to be female (though I doubt it based on the skylander dad vid) would be rad!
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#44 Posted: 08:30:34 22/09/2014
Every element has to have dragons. Spotlight Spyro and Blackout Cynder are the cores for the new elements. Both new elements have a Trap Master, one core, a big boss and three mini bosses (the small boxes with question marks are for their names).

Pure speculation here, but a**mini of each of the 8 primary elements will be packaged in a normal/mini combo pack, so reposes for mainstays Trigger Happy, Stealth Elf, Hex, and either Bash or Terrafin may be forthcoming. Thus, Flipwreck is the contest winner (the other two question marks being Stealth Elf and Hex). This means Spotlight Spyro might be packaged with Spry.
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#45 Posted: 08:59:40 22/09/2014
Quote: Plordigian
Every element has to have dragons. Spotlight Spyro and Blackout Cynder are the cores for the new elements. Both new elements have a Trap Master, one core, a big boss and three mini bosses (the small boxes with question marks are for their names).

Pure speculation here, but a**mini of each of the 8 primary elements will be packaged in a normal/mini combo pack, so reposes for mainstays Trigger Happy, Stealth Elf, Hex, and either Bash or Terrafin may be forthcoming. Thus, Flipwreck is the contest winner (the other two question marks being Stealth Elf and Hex). This means Spotlight Spyro might be packaged with Spry.



except bat spin and high five have already been seen on the back of packaging
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#46 Posted: 09:07:29 22/09/2014
Quote: Plordigian
Every element has to have dragons. Spotlight Spyro and Blackout Cynder are the cores for the new elements. Both new elements have a Trap Master, one core, a big boss and three mini bosses (the small boxes with question marks are for their names).

Pure speculation here, but a mini of each of the 8 primary elements will be packaged in a normal/mini combo pack, so reposes for mainstays Trigger Happy, Stealth Elf, Hex, and either Bash or Terrafin may be forthcoming. Thus, Flipwreck is the contest winner (the other two question marks being Stealth Elf and Hex). This means Spotlight Spyro might be packaged with Spry.



Let me clear some things up for you.

Spotlight and Blackout, if these are their true names, are the completely new characters (still not sure if Cores or Trap Masters, but probably the former) for the two new Elements, Light and Dark.
While your theory is interesting and makes sense, those character have been described as "spiders", one using shadow tentacles and vortexes, to attack, and the other controlling rings and shooting lazer beams.

They wouldn't absolutely put two already exsisting Skylanders, in new Elements, and call them "completely new".

And, regarding the new Elements villains, it wouldn't make much sense, if there was a Light Doom Raider, but since some leaked images revealed there are indeed villains for the Light Element too, I'm gonna assume there are two Doom Riders left (the Magic and the Dark ones), and some villains for the two new Elements.

Moreover, the poster that comes inside the Starter Pack already confirmed the reposes for this game (Fizzy Frenzy Pop Fizz, Tidal Wave Gill Grunt, Hog Wild Fryno, Sure Shot Shroomboom and Full Blast Jet-Vac), and the other "reposes" for the remaining elements probably took the form of Minis (Drobit, Bop and Hijinx), or simply became member of the Eon's Elite.

Spyro already is in Trap Team, in two different ways.

The "winner" of the contest cannot be Flip Wreck, because a picture of the backside of a Triple Pack revealed that both High Five and Bat Spin are in the game, called after their contest names, so, indeed the third Frito Lay's character is in there too. smilie
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#47 Posted: 09:44:39 22/09/2014
Quote: Plordigian
Every element has to have dragons. Spotlight Spyro and Blackout Cynder are the cores for the new elements. Both new elements have a Trap Master, one core, a big boss and three mini bosses (the small boxes with question marks are for their names).

Pure speculation here, but a**mini of each of the 8 primary elements will be packaged in a normal/mini combo pack, so reposes for mainstays Trigger Happy, Stealth Elf, Hex, and either Bash or Terrafin may be forthcoming. Thus, Flipwreck is the contest winner (the other two question marks being Stealth Elf and Hex). This means Spotlight Spyro might be packaged with Spry.



I would be really annoyed if this was the case. I don't want a repose.
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#48 Posted: 10:44:46 22/09/2014
Golly, Drek, no need to get bent outta shape. Speculation, to "clear it up" for ya, is merely thinking out loud. If your version of enlightenment is to be rude then nah, I think I'd rather not. Especially when you're not saying anything new. Adding a smiley at the end doesn't excuse it.

It's been suggested, and hoped, that the leaked packaging is not the final product. Bat Spin is such a bad name...

Having jumped on this train back in February, I wasn't around for the waiting game before the previous releases. Anyone remember if Giants and Swap Force had or had not been fully revealed this close to the release date?
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#49 Posted: 10:56:30 22/09/2014
Quote: Plordigian
Golly, Drek, no need to get bent outta shape. Speculation, to "clear it up" for ya, is merely thinking out loud. If your version of enlightenment is to be rude then nah, I think I'd rather not. Especially when you're not saying anything new. Adding a smiley at the end doesn't excuse it.

It's been suggested, and hoped, that the leaked packaging is not the final product. Bat Spin is such a bad name...

Having jumped on this train back in February, I wasn't around for the waiting game before the previous releases. Anyone remember if Giants and Swap Force had or had not been fully revealed this close to the release date?



He wasn't being rude, just telling you that your speculation wasn't 100% possible. Also Bat Spin is her name because we have seen pictures of her in the in game menu.
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#50 Posted: 11:09:48 22/09/2014
Quote: Plordigian
Golly, Drek, no need to get bent outta shape. Speculation, to "clear it up" for ya, is merely thinking out loud. If your version of enlightenment is to be rude then nah, I think I'd rather not. Especially when you're not saying anything new. Adding a smiley at the end doesn't excuse it.

It's been suggested, and hoped, that the leaked packaging is not the final product. Bat Spin is such a bad name...

Having jumped on this train back in February, I wasn't around for the waiting game before the previous releases. Anyone remember if Giants and Swap Force had or had not been fully revealed this close to the release date?



Excuse me, Plordigian, I wasn't ABSOLUTELY trying to sound rude at all.

If this is what I seemed at your eyes, then I give you my excuses.

I was just trying to be as clear and friendly as possible, since you are a Red Sparx and thus a new utent, and thought you might have not known too well this informations.

The packaging is indeed the final one, as it was also seen in the stores which already got them.

This is the main problem, when writing to someone, instead of talking to him.
You can hardly convey the tone of voice you are using.

I was just giving you facts, an telling you what we knew.
That's all.
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